U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11

Other references:

[link to starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us]

The simulations and scientific predictions are CONFIRMED by direct observation. Just what part of that don't you understand?
:venusoccultation:
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
The moon's orientation is exactly as it should be. You can't bad mouth simulations based on your preconceived notions of how the sky should look when the real sky doesn't bear that out; you never compared the real sky to the simulations and scientific predictions to begin with! The only thing it proves is that your expectations were flawed and false based on an inadequate understanding of astronomy.

Last Edited by Astromut on 05/17/2010 01:32 PM

stellarium is great and free!
I use the older version because the new one bugs out my computer.

Stellarium will allow you to jump easily from night to night so you can see the various moon phases and positions in the sky.

I had Stellarium in 2008. had to uninstall it because of the troubles caused to my comp; now I use the software that came with my telescope.

Trying to educate these people is a waste of time, Astronut.

They're proud of their ignorance. Hell, they wallow in it, thinking it makes them superior to the 'sheeple.'

They all flunked math in 7th grade and are still pissed about it.

Idiots.

ya think!?!?!



i will say thank you for giving me and the rest of my coworkers a good laugh today.

Im using 10.2 and it runs pretty good on my 10 year old dell!-lol.
Are you using first light, thats another good one.

i havent been able to see the moon for probably the past 5 days. too much clouds- or it just aint showin up. One night the stars were out and i couldnt find the moon- maybe too many clouds.. idk... i really dont care.. the moon is just a huge stone-henge. they want us to dig deep n find shit out- i really could care less- end of days is upon us...

It is you Astronut, that does not understand basic Aristotelean logic.

There is a phenomenon, visible to anyone that was not there before. (Not in the winter, not in the summer).
Ergo, something must have changed.

I don't intend to "badmouth" or discredit anyone, but allow me to believe more my own many years of observation, than anything else, especially if other older people's similar experiences support it.

Last Edited by emerald_glow on 05/17/2010 01:55 PM

Another tool for making predictions about the lunar terminator is Cartes du Ciel:
[link to www.stargazing.net]

So if it is in wikipedia then it must be 'truth'? NOT!


This is not winter any more, summer solstice is just a month away.

Maharaja

This is exactly the reason Maharaja, that I re-awakened this thread...it is May now, the winter is gone, spring is almost over and the U moon is the same.

Just curious, but how is YOUR theory, as espoused here, not "man-made"?

There is no logic in your claims. This phenomenon is not new and is not unexpected.

You've claimed that, but you've done absolutely nothing to prove it. It's not new and it is expected and that's easily proven by the previous discussion.

Your premise is wrong, so your logic is flawed.

But you already did.

I don't care what you think you remember, I know for a fact it's wrong. I suggest you and others who think this is new spend more time doing some amateur astronomy. A person's age does not guarantee expertise in astronomy.

The orientation of the lunar crescent is exactly what it's expected to be.
:venusoccultation:

Some things old people (aka, THE ELDERS) have told me that are BULLSHIT:

* Loggerhead turtles, once they bite you, won't release you until it thunders.

* Snakes will roll downhill after forming a hoop by biting their own tail.

* It won't frost after April 15.

* Drowned bodies will float suddenly in the wakr of a loud noise.

So is all that true too? I mean it must be, because 'the elders' swear it's true. And the elders are never wrong, are they?

In fact, the elders are all fucking experts on astronomy and strophysics, aren't they? Just ask any doddering greybeard the mass of Jupiter or the length of the Martian year or why the Moon is tide-locked with the Earth. Heck, they'll whip out the data in a jiffy!

So you're right, the Moon is all over the fucking sky, it's upside down, it's in the living room, it's rising twice in the North and setting every other Thursday in the South. My bad. I should have listened to Old Man Fergusen when he said 'Mah gimp en flatl gorn mop."

I think that says it all.

And I am outa here...

So are you even going to admit that the Moon's phases are not caused by Earth's shadow?

Previous years' photos of the wet moon:
[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]
1998:
[link to www.sas.org.au]
But hey, how dare I rely on photos rather than an old non-expert's flawed memory.

Last Edited by Astromut on 05/17/2010 02:20 PM

There are men and there are "men" not all men are the same, nor equal! Some are more equal than others, it is called disrimination by action and quality.


The Srimad Bhagavatam is not spoken by drunk leaches or debauchee butt finger smelling monkeys.


This is the same scriptures that speaks of the calculation of time from the atom and nuclear weapons controlled(precisely aiming and controlling so that nothing outside of the target is effected. Even if the target is the head of a pin!) by mantra. 5000 yrs ago! The melted sand-into-glass is evident in Kuruksetra, India and elsewhere.

In fact it wasn't until Pasteur, that you western monkeys even heard about boiling milk for God sake. That is 4700 yrs after the self same Vedas say to do it for good health.

I will stay with my fore fathers science of following the Vedas

Hell we've know for eons that our forefathers of great antiquity came from the higher planets(Sun, Moon, etc). They are called progenitors and create all life on this planet as there service to Visnu to administer the universe.

UFO's? You ain't seen nothing yet!


Maharaja

You listen to butt finger smelling monkeys and you get that level of truth. NONE!

This is it for now, guys...I come back next month.

So you have no reply to all the evidence I just dumped in your lap? I guess I wasted my time trying to explain it to you, but given how ignorant you've chosen to remain this whole time I shouldn't be surprised.

Previous years' photos of the wet moon:
[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]
1998:
[link to www.sas.org.au]
But hey, how dare I rely on photos rather than an old non-expert's flawed memory.
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Have you found any dated mid May in say the early 70's?

And just because you can find it on the internet does not make it a truth. So many lies are told here, do not just be gul-able.

Find ten pictures from five different decades in the month of May.

I will be watching the full moon cycle with eagle eye.

Some curry-sniffing moron wrote:

"The Srimad Bhagavatam is not spoken by drunk leaches or debauchee butt finger smelling monkeys."

First thing, dumbass, it's leeches, not leaches.

And then you fucked up the sentence by including an extraneous word. so let me fix that for you:


"The Srimad Bhagavatam is spoken by drunk leaches or debauchee butt finger smelling monkeys."

Now it's right. You can go back to your digit-sniffing and overpopulating now.

So you have dispensed your TRVTH and now fade into the shadows without even admiting that the Moon's phases are not caused by Earth's shadow?

Typical behavior.

They say something monumentally stupid, they get called on it, evidence to the contrary is presented, and they trot away 'for a month' to licik their wounds and work on their next bit of astronomical assininity.

What's next, OP?

Will the Moon be:

1) Cubical?
2) Only 50 miles above the Earth?
3) Attached to the Sun with suddenly-visible springs?
4) Only a projection originating from <drumroll> ATLANTIS????

Feel free to use any of the above. And don't forget to throw in the wisdom of the elders!

Thursday night was new moon, so you wouldn't see it that night at all, and only as a thin crescent last night just after sunset. PLEASE learn just a little about the normal phases of the moon.

Are you trying to claim that it just started appearing like this? If so, you obviously don't even know what causes it.

Even if the messenger dies the message remains the same.