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Ring linked to genome fusion for a origin of eukaryotes ?




*** to be continued ***


XXXK
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link to first article in vid: [link to biologyfiles.wordpress.com]

snip:
Vertical transfer is so 20th century
We’ve heard of the tree of life, in which one organism begets another, passing on its genes in a vertical fashion, with this vertical transfer of genes producing a tree, with each new production becoming a new branch. The method of gene transfer that would produce a genuine circle, or ring, is horizontal transfer, in which two organisms fuse genomes to produce a new organism. The ends of the branches in this scenario fuse together via their genomes to close the circle. It is this fusion of two genomes that may have produced the eukaryotes.

Here, have some genes
Eukaryotes are cells with true nuclei, like the cells of our bodies. The simplest eukaryotes are the single-celled variety, like yeasts. Before eukaryotes arose, single-celled organisms without nuclei—called prokaryotes—ruled the Earth. We lumped them together in a single kingdom until comparatively recently, when taxonomists broke them into two separate domains, the Archaebacteria and the Eubacteria, with the eukaryotes making up a third. Archaebacteria are prokaryotes with a penchant for difficult living conditions, such as boiling-hot water. Eubacteria include today’s familiar representatives, Escherichia coli.

Genomic fusion
According to the findings of Lake and Rivera, the two prokaryotic domains may have fused genomes to produce the first representatives of the Eukarya domain. By analyzing complex algorithms of genomic relationships among 30 organisms—hailing from each of the three domains—Lake and Rivera produced various family “trees” of life on Earth, and found that the “trees” with the highest cumulative probabilities of having actually occurred really joined in a ring, or a fusion of two prokaryotic branches to form the eukaryotes.


Link to 2nd article in vid:
[link to www.nature.com]




REMEMBER THE RUSSIAN-CHINESE MISSION IN SPACE [PHOBOS-GRUNT]???


Phobos-grunt [link to en.wikipedia.org]

LIVE [link to en.wikipedia.org]
The project includes representatives of all three domains of life: bacteria, eukaryota and archaea.


DING-DONG !!!


I posted about it here on this page :
Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine (Page 1287)


Interesting snip :

... Various species of halophilic Archaea (halophiles) have been revived (!!!!) from fluid inclusions in ancient salt crystals (Norton et al., 1993; Denner et al., 1994; Grant et al., 1998; Vreeland et al., 2000).

The quantity of ancient crystals that harbor viable halophiles, however, is low. ... two of the 52 crystals studied contained Archaea that survived dormancy.
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Next to look into is if on the place/spot where this Chinese RING OF LIFE is builded, are any leylines, wells, or other kind of important energies ....


XXXK

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Dammer, I had a whole post with facts and things that made FUSHUN very important concerning OIL AND SALT !!!

It makes me wonder that it is becoz of the specialisation in deep salt drilling, it was that China interveined in the GOM ??? Could the know more ?




I will find the information back and post it.
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Please do, the whole deal with China is still a bit clouded. Ironically we have all been saying we gotta dig deeper... They have been the whole time.



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LIAONING
Liaoning is the Province and Fushun the city.
A very old history.
- Archeological evidence establishes that community life existed in Liaoning 5,000 years ago.
- an important trade center, an area that contains rich, untapped resources, and for its strategic position as the Golden Triangle.
- the birthplace of warlords and the cradle of the Qing Dynasty.
- Liaoning's often troubled history has given us an interesting legacy of architecture and artifacts,
- Shenyang, Liaoning's capital city, there is a Manchu version of the Forbidden City known as the Shenyang Imperial Palace. Built on the same principles as the Forbidden City in Beijing. The emperors that built the Imperial Palace also built their burial sites in Shenyang: Fuling Tomb also called the East Tomb; and Zhaoling Tomb, also called the North Tomb. (...). A third tomb, Yongling Tomb, completes the famous tomb group known as the 'three tombs outside of the Great Wall'.


Are there thus TOMBS INSIDE The Great Wall ????

- Qianshan Mountain in Liaoning is connected with The Goddess Quanyin (alien connection)
- Southeast of Shenyang is Benxi, which has the largest water cave in Asia. Benxi Water Cave National Park, there are six areas of particular interest: Mount Miaohou, Mount Tiecha, Mount Guanmen, the Spa Temple, Tanggou Valley, and the Water Cave. The Water Cave has an underground river with water so clear that the riverbed is always visible.




What would make Fushun SPECIAL?
Could there be a reason why The RING of LIFE was build in Fushun ?
Could there be Bezerk-connections ???


FUSHUN
- Fushun is located on the Hun River
- a highly industrialized area. It has developed as a thriving center for fuel, power and raw materials
It is rich in many types of resources including wood, coal, oil shale, iron, copper, magnesium, gold, marble, titanium, and marl. Hydro-electric and thermal power are also important locally available resources.

- The main coal and oil shale company is Fushun Mining Group, The company has also coalbed methane resources around of 8.9 billion cubic meters.[3] In addition, it owns geological reserve for high grade oil shale about 3.5 billion tons, of which exploitable reserve is 920 million tons.
Fushun has developed through the utilization of the abundant natural mineral deposits found in the area and is a nationally important heavy industrial base for petroleum, chemical, metallurgy machinery and construction material industries.
(...) At the end of 2006, the Fushun Mining Group operated the largest shale oil plant in the world consisting of seven retorting units with 20 retorts in each unit, total 140 sets of Fushun type retort.[6][7]
There are also two oil refineries. Fushun Petrochemical Company, a subsidiary of PetroChina, is building a refining and petrochemical complex in Fushun.


THIS above makes FUSHUN a very very important AND STRATEGIC place !!!
This is getting interesting !


CHIN-RUS-JAP trio :
- The city was occupied by Russia until 1905 and by Japan until 1945.

The allied-trio opposite of the ODESSA-group !!!



ROYALS :
- Within Fushun is the origin of the Qing Dynasty, at a site known as Xingjing City. It was the first capital of the Late Jin dynasty dating to 1616. Beside the ancient city are the Yongling tombs containing several members of the royal household.



SALT
- [link to publishing.cdlib.org]
The Nineteenth-Century Salt Magnates
The Business of Salt . Sichuan sits on salt. Salt deposits can be found throughout the rock layers deposited from about 900 to 65 million years ago. The most important are thought to have originated about 185 million years ago in an ancient epicontinental sea. Repeated inundation and evaporation in the basin produced thick accumulations of salt that are now preserved in rich subterranean deposits of rock salt and brine.[8] Evidence exists of its exploitation in shallow salt pits as early as the second millennium B.C. (...) This lead was maintained during the early Qing until new deep drilling technology led to the rapid development of the richer salt resources in the Lower Basin counties of Jianwei, Leshan, Rongxian, and Fushun.


- [link to www.h-net.org]
At the same time, salt yards in the districts of Fushun (aka Ziliujing) and Rongxian (aka Gongjing), an area today known as Zigong, achieved a competitive edge through technological innovation. (...) both politics and technology worked together in creating conditions favorable to industrial expansion in Furong (i.e., Fushun and Rongxian). It is important to note that from the 1820s onward, improvement of deep drilling technology allowed for the excavation of highly productive black-brine wells with a depth of up to almost three thousand feet. These black-brine wells produced more brine and in much higher concentration than the yellow-brine wells in former times. On account of its greatly increased efficiency of the salt production process, the development of these black-brine wells represents a milestone in the history of the salt industry


Could this be a reason that the CHINESE got involved and wanted to prevent "Certain Events in the GOM" becauze they have so much experience with salt and salt mining ???
Did they know all along that it was not about the OIL in the GOM but about the SALT-domes and salt-deposits/salt-layers ????


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This below was the part [when I tried to read a pdf-file] when my pc froze and my post was gone ...
(Fushun basin is located in the SW part of the Dunmi Fault. It is an oil ... located between the Huadian and Fushun Basins. .... form brackish-salt lake waters with ..)

The info on 'Dunmi Fault, salt and Fushun' is very very scarce ! I wonder why that is ?

[link to books.google.nl]
- The Eastern branch is the Dunmi faultextends in about NE 50* direction in the southern section through Fushun, Quinyuan, Hailong, (...) which shows a graben basin consisting of two tilted faults dipping towards inner rift.

The Northern section and a western branch of the fault go toward Russia.

Then the link of the information/book skips a few pages of the book and suddenly there is talk of "collaps pillars" on page 381 !!! You can imagine my surprise !!!
Then it goes on about "non-mining ruptures in coal mine shafts as a new kind of geological disaster" ... and the influence of water-levels and de-watering ...
page 399 about : "...ground subsidence under very think water-bearing strata" ....


Cant find more on this :
[PDF]
The Oil Shale Deposit of Fushun, Manchuria
PDF/Adobe Acrobat
by K Uwatoko - 1931
Geological relation between the Fushun oil shale and the. SeaM.[---snipped strange symbols---] bottom of water basins of fresh and salt waters by agencies of bacteria.


Related snips to it are :
- China has an important amount of oil shale potential in Manchuria and particularly near Fushun,
a city
- Since the opening of the Tach'ing oil field in North Manchuria 15 years ago, the
Chinese oil industry has received national and global attention.
- ... Just as the plan for Japanese development of this deposit was ready to be put in operation some-
thing happened politically, and the con- trol was taken out of Japanese hands and given to a ... The
hydrogena- tion of coal and the use of oil shales in Manchuria are also ...
- The true extent of Manchuria's
reserves, however, remains unknown



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BORATE/BORON & SALT-DOMES

I read that :
These borate lakes are essentially mono mineralic in the sense that no other salts occur in major quantities. There is, however, another type of borate lake deposit, with mixed salts and/or brine containing borates in sufficient quantity to justify recovery. These are becoming increasingly important on a worldwide scale. Searles Lake, CA, has been cited as a type example of a multicomponent lake formed by evaporation of lake waters (Smith, 1966, 1979). Numerous studies of Searles Lake have concluded that boron and the other dissolved constituents originated along the eastern front of the Sierra Nevada, were concentrated and decanted in a series of updrainage lakes, and finally were precipitated and preserved in Searles Lake itself. This scenario seems to fit several of the Chinese and Tibetan lakes as well, although they are far less studied (Lock, 1991). The borates found in the large South American salars, such as Uyuni and Atacama, may also have formed by leaching of surrounding rocks and subsequent evaporation, although the role of local mineralized spring waters containing boron has not been fully evaluated at this time.
Marine Evaporites: Borates of marine origin have been found
in commercial quantities only in eastern Europe. These are magnesium borates associated with Permian salt deposits. They were produced in Germany as a byproduct of potash mining, and in the Inder region of Kazakhstan. The Inder deposits, where the borates occur as veins in the cap of a very large salt dome complex, are reported to be remobilized and concentrated from the salt during the
intrusion of the salt dome itself. The source of the unusual amount of marine boron, however, remains a problem. Some of the Chinese deposits of the Liaoning Peninsula may be of similar origin although they occur as veins in metamorphosed limestone and magnesite of Precambrian Age.
The Inder Lake brines which are also a source of Kazakhstan
production appear to be simply a sump accumulation of borate
values leached from the huge Inder salt dome complex. These
would be similar in occurrence to the complex lake brines, referenced above, although leached from marine salts rather than continental rocks. The Kara-Bagaz-Gol Lagoon borates on the east shore of the Caspian Sea would appear to be leached from marine brines as well (Lyday, 1991).



What is boron?
What does it do ?
Why is it linked and found in SALT-DOMES ?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Boron is a chemical element with chemical symbol B and atomic number 5. Because boron is produced entirely by cosmic ray spallation and not by stellar nucleosynthesis,[8] it is a low-abundance element in both the solar system and the Earth's crust. Boron is concentrated on Earth by the water-solubility of its more common naturally occurring compounds, the borate minerals.

What was AUgie called first ???
The morphing element captured by the French sub :
Cargo B12 ?????




Hydrothermal, clay, seawater/crust :
There are 13 known isotopes of boron, the shortest-lived isotope is 7B which decays through proton emission and alpha decay. It has a half-life of 3.5×10−22 s. Isotopic fractionation of boron is controlled by the exchange reactions of the boron species B(OH)3 and [B(OH)4]−. Boron isotopes are also fractionated during mineral crystallization, during H2O phase changes in hydrothermal systems, and during hydrothermal alteration of rock. The latter effect results in preferential removal of the 10B(OH)4 ion onto clays. It results in solutions enriched in 11B(OH)3 and therefore may be responsible for the large 11B enrichment in seawater relative to both oceanic crust and continental crust; this difference may act as an isotopic signature.

Cancer therapy :
Enriched boron or 10B is used in both radiation shielding and is the primary nuclide used in neutron capture therapy of cancer. In the latter ("boron neutron capture therapy" or BNCT), a compound containing 10B is incorporated into a pharmaceutical which is selectively taken up by a malignant tumor and tissues near it. The patient is then treated with a beam of either thermal neutrons, or else neutrons of low energy, at a relatively low neutron radiation dose. The neutrons, however, trigger energetic and short-range secondary alpha particle and lithium-7 heavy ion radiation that are products of the boron + neutron nuclear reaction, and this ion radiation additionally bombards the tumor, especially from inside the tumor cells

In nuclear reactors :
boron-10 is often used to control fission in nuclear reactors as a neutron-capturing substance.
10B is used for reactivity control and in emergency shutdown systems. It can serve either function in the form of borosilicate control rods or as boric acid. In pressurized water reactors, boric acid is added to the reactor coolant when the plant is shut down for refueling. It is then slowly filtered out over many months as fissile material is used up and the fuel becomes less reactive.

Boron carbide's ability to absorb neutrons without forming long-lived radionuclides (especially when doped with extra boron-10) makes the material attractive as an absorbent for neutron radiation arising in nuclear power plants. Nuclear applications of boron carbide include shielding, control rods and shut-down pellets. Within control rods, boron carbide is often powdered, to increase its surface area.


Conductor:
Boron is a poor conductor at room temperature. Elemental boron is used as a dopant in the semiconductor industry.

Ceramic use !!!
(Remember OP's mention of the substance in the briefcases, becomming light-weight ... and think of the canisters ... and the signal/beam from the Chinese Wall !!!)
The major industrial-scale uses of boron compounds are in sodium perborate bleaches, and the borax component of fiberglass insulation. Boron polymers and ceramics play specialized roles as high-strength lightweight structural and refractory materials. Boron compounds are used in silica-based glasses and ceramics to give them resistance to thermal shock.
Boron-containing reagents are used for as intermediates in the synthesis of organic fine chemicals. A few boron-containing organic pharmaceuticals are used, or are in study. Natural boron is composed of two stable isotopes, one of which (boron-10) has a number of uses as a neutron-capturing agent.


Makes sense doesnt it ????? ....
The next only adds to it :

In biology, borates have low toxicity in mammals (similar to table salt), but are more toxic to arthropods and are used as insecticides. Boric acid is mildly antimicrobial, and a natural boron-containing organic antibiotic is known. Boron is essential to life. Small amounts of boron compounds play a strengthening role in the cell walls of all plants, making boron necessary in soils. Experiments indicate a role for boron as an ultratrace element in animals, but the nature of its role in animal physiology is unknown.



Spacecraft-material:
6Li and 10B appear as potential spacecraft structural materials which serve both for mechanical reinforcement and radiation protection.

Magnets
Boron is a component of neodymium magnets (Nd2Fe14B), which are the strongest type of permanent magnet. They are found in a variety of domestic and professional electromechanical and electronic devices, such as magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), various motors and actuators, computer HDDs, CD and DVD players, mobile phones, timer switches, speakers, and so on

Superhard materials:
Implantation of boron ions into metals and alloys, through ion implantation or ion beam deposition, results in a spectacular increase in surface resistance and microhardness.

Flux:
Sodium borates are used as a flux for soldering silver and gold

Ignition substance for space-vehicles (NASA)



Maybe this raised more questions ..lol...

Remember me asking about if the SALT on top of the DEEP-EARTH-OIL could have a reason and purpose ... if the deep-oil might be more radioactive, or less ... could the SALT act as a SHIELD ?
Well,
if I look at the properties of BORON &co, then there might be a YES and an answer, a purpose.
If it is a RARE ELEMENT, and ESSENTIAL to LIFE .. then it is essential to Earth as well !!!


How did we get here ? --> The RING of LIFE in FUSHUN, and the important role this city played in history and in the OIL-business in China, oil and salt-domes, salt-domes and boron ....


XXXK
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Note satellite image of Fushon at Wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] shows that the city is upriver from the seacoast and is in a mountainous region: “Fushun is a famous tourist centre in Northeast China. With high mountains and thick woods giving 40% forest coverage, the city has a developed strong tourist industry.”

It’s mountainous location supports the idea that the Ring of Life is a water-level measuring device which, in the event of a catastrophic permanent rise in sea level, may enable inhabitants to determine when the water will stop rising.
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Ceramic use !!!
(Remember OP's mention of the substance in the briefcases, becomming light-weight ... and think of the canisters ... and the signal/beam from the Chinese Wall !!!)
The major industrial-scale uses of boron compounds are in sodium perborate bleaches, and the borax component of fiberglass insulation. Boron polymers and ceramics play specialized roles as high-strength lightweight structural and refractory materials. Boron compounds are used in silica-based glasses and ceramics to give them resistance to thermal shock.e: “ “


Best we not give the Chinese too much credit for use of boron and sillica-based glass and ceramics. Glass cookware made in China will explode! In some instances their cookware will explode in the oven, but there are more instances of the glassware exploding after it has been removed from the oven. Apparently, the Chinese glass cannot absorb the shock of moving from oven heat to ambient temperature. A made-in-China glass cook ware sounds like a small bomb exploding and shards of glass and food are blown 10-20 feet distant.
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Note satellite image of Fushon at Wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] shows that the city is upriver from the seacoast and is in a mountainous region: “Fushun is a famous tourist centre in Northeast China. With high mountains and thick woods giving 40% forest coverage, the city has a developed strong tourist industry.”

It’s mountainous location supports the idea that the Ring of Life is a water-level measuring device which, in the event of a catastrophic permanent rise in sea level, may enable inhabitants to determine when the water will stop rising.
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OK, I'm pretty interesting in why you think this ring structure is for water measurement? Why not just make a big tower with spars? Why such a complex shape, that any current can flow against and damage?

That's not a shoot down, I'm keen to know why, of all things you arrived at this conclusion. Its really cool.

Here's where I'm comming from. Plenty of stuff written about the pyramids, especially the big fella, being used as water pumps.

To me, with a design and engineering back ground, a structure of this size is crazy inneficient for pumping water. The same can be achieved on so much smaller scale, is more mobile and can be replicated many times over. A pump just doesnt cut it.

But, with the woo woo I'm playing with, regards specific 'types' of water, especially that accumulating beneath the Antarctic ice sheets, which are not readily available to the average Joe, a special pump might explain it.

These huge devices might have been designed to draw out this particular type of water, giving the people who use the chambers everlasting life of sorts?

Back to your ring idea. It may well be a water indicator, but not necessarily a flood indicator in the present tense.

Can you elaborate a little? I'm all ears. (or eyes?)
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Recalling the story of the Chinese Briefcases on BEZERK, there was a claim that if the briefcases were opened before the designated time, that the contents would be destroyed.

The Chinese are expert in manufacturing a thick, heavy tempered glass that is supposed to be heat resistant, but which can blow up like a roadside bomb blowing shrapnel around the immediate area. All it appears to take to detonate the glass bomb is a sudden change in temperature. If a message is engraved on a glass canister, or on something breakable inside a glass canister and a timed heating device is packed with the glass canister, an early opening and exposure to ambient temperature could possibly cause the destruction of the message.
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A tower with spars to measure rising water would tend to catch hold and drag just about anything that came its way. A pyramid shape will allow an efficient water flow, but its peak may not be easily seen from a distance and we'd be talking about a lot of square foot and cubic area. Tall buildings are going to be top heavy in flood conditions and likely to be unstable.

I live in the mountains and it's rare, but we do have floods in especially heavy storm conditions. People are killed just simply by driving into water where they don't see the pavement and have driven off the side of the mountain. You wouldn't dare take a boat on a flooded lake because you can't tell where the docks are located, and sometime the tops of boathouses (boat garages) will be covered. If the weather report tells that the water is rising so many feet, no one has much of a clue just what water level that will be.

The most serious problem is the potential for the push inland and uphill of water like the instance of the Charleston earthquake. It's been a few years since I've heard ol' timers tell the story, but the Charleston earthquake at the coast of the Atlantic flooded the foothills of the mountains 300 miles upriver. People knew the water was coming but didn't know where to get to with their farm animals. They could not tell when the water would stop rising.

If I was asked to build a high-water marker because we knew high water was coming, I would build a ring so that people could see it from the mountains miles away. A ring design, with the "V" form edge we see on the Ring of Life, will allow most anything to flip around and pass through or pass by the side of the high-water marker.
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Ceramic use !!!
(Remember OP's mention of the substance in the briefcases, becomming light-weight ... and think of the canisters ... and the signal/beam from the Chinese Wall !!!)
The major industrial-scale uses of boron compounds are in sodium perborate bleaches, and the borax component of fiberglass insulation. Boron polymers and ceramics play specialized roles as high-strength lightweight structural and refractory materials. Boron compounds are used in silica-based glasses and ceramics to give them resistance to thermal shock.e: “ “


Best we not give the Chinese too much credit for use of boron and sillica-based glass and ceramics. Glass cookware made in China will explode! In some instances their cookware will explode in the oven, but there are more instances of the glassware exploding after it has been removed from the oven. Apparently, the Chinese glass cannot absorb the shock of moving from oven heat to ambient temperature. A made-in-China glass cook ware sounds like a small bomb exploding and shards of glass and food are blown 10-20 feet distant.
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BORON is to rare and to expensive to use in cheap household plastics/ceramics/cookware ...

This element is used in expensive projects ...
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Recalling the story of the Chinese Briefcases on BEZERK, there was a claim that if the briefcases were opened before the designated time, that the contents would be destroyed.

The Chinese are expert in manufacturing a thick, heavy tempered glass that is supposed to be heat resistant, but which can blow up like a roadside bomb blowing shrapnel around the immediate area. All it appears to take to detonate the glass bomb is a sudden change in temperature. If a message is engraved on a glass canister, or on something breakable inside a glass canister and a timed heating device is packed with the glass canister, an early opening and exposure to ambient temperature could possibly cause the destruction of the message.
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Very interesting.
But let's assume that the OP was accurate in this info, he said that some briefcases were stored and kept in roomtemperature chambers, and others in safehouses or vaults that were very cool. If they were taken out there would have been temps also.
So in your case these differences in temps could have ignited the briefcases, even if they were not opened.

I do believe you that this glass-bomb exists,
But was not used IN the briefcases.
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The European manufacturer of Pyrex, Arc International, uses borosilicate glass in its Pyrex glass kitchen products;[2] however, the U.S. manufacturer of Pyrex kitchenware uses tempered soda-lime glass.[3] Thus Pyrex can refer to either soda-lime glass or borosilicate glass when discussing kitchen glassware, while Pyrex, Bomex, Duran, TGI and Simax all refer to borosilicate glass when discussing laboratory glassware.

Though more difficult to make than traditional glass due to the high melting temperature required (Corning conducted a major revamp of their operations to make it), it is economical to produce. Its superior durability, chemical and heat resistance finds excellent use in chemical laboratory equipment, cookware, lighting and, in certain cases, windows.

While more resistant to thermal shock than other types of glass, borosilicate glass can still crack or shatter when subject to rapid or uneven temperature variations. When broken, borosilicate glass tends to crack into large pieces rather than shattering (it will snap rather than splinter).




Krispy wrote:

Ceramic use !!!
(Remember OP's mention of the substance in the briefcases, becomming light-weight ... and think of the canisters ... and the signal/beam from the Chinese Wall !!!)
The major industrial-scale uses of boron compounds are in sodium perborate bleaches, and the borax component of fiberglass insulation. Boron polymers and ceramics play specialized roles as high-strength lightweight structural and refractory materials. Boron compounds are used in silica-based glasses and ceramics to give them resistance to thermal shock.e: “ “


Best we not give the Chinese too much credit for use of boron and sillica-based glass and ceramics. Glass cookware made in China will explode! In some instances their cookware will explode in the oven, but there are more instances of the glassware exploding after it has been removed from the oven. Apparently, the Chinese glass cannot absorb the shock of moving from oven heat to ambient temperature. A made-in-China glass cook ware sounds like a small bomb exploding and shards of glass and food are blown 10-20 feet distant.
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BORON is to rare and to expensive to use in cheap household plastics/ceramics/cookware ...

This element is used in expensive projects ...
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The European manufacturer of Pyrex, Arc International, uses borosilicate glass in its Pyrex glass kitchen products;[2] however, the U.S. manufacturer of Pyrex kitchenware uses tempered soda-lime glass.[3] Thus Pyrex can refer to either soda-lime glass or borosilicate glass when discussing kitchen glassware, while Pyrex, Bomex, Duran, TGI and Simax all refer to borosilicate glass when discussing laboratory glassware.

Though more difficult to make than traditional glass due to the high melting temperature required (Corning conducted a major revamp of their operations to make it), it is economical to produce. Its superior durability, chemical and heat resistance finds excellent use in chemical laboratory equipment, cookware, lighting and, in certain cases, windows.

While more resistant to thermal shock than other types of glass, borosilicate glass can still crack or shatter when subject to rapid or uneven temperature variations. When broken, borosilicate glass tends to crack into large pieces rather than shattering (it will snap rather than splinter).


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Okay true,
but still ... the boron they used for [example] NASA or other space-based-technology is of a different quality then the boron-silicate (boron + silica) compounds used in normal average kitchenware.
And yes some things manufactured in China are of poor quality .... but then again they are of poor quality and huge mass-production also from other countries as well.

Instead of pinpointing at the [sometimes] exploding cheap boron-silicate compound products,
it is more interesting to look at other qualities and things of this element.

The thing that interested me most was that it was FOUND as VEINS in SALT-DOME CAPS !!!! and as veins in limestone.
It appears in several spots of importance discussed in this thread : Kara-sea area, China Liaoning Peninsula, Tibet, Kazakhstan, south America ...
So it is obviously interconnected with the salt-domes and even local mineralized spring waters.

Cosmic ray's are involved,
hydrothermal systems are involved,
clays, ...


The thing that could be in play with the salt-domes is :
- radiation shielding

-> from inside out & from outside in ?

- it's absorbent role in radioactive situations [human & natural],
-> remember me asking if the salt was acting as a SHIELD to protect the above from the radioactivity below / or the below from the radiation comming from above [like in radioactivity or gamma rays or other radiation rays]
Does this means that salt-domes are very very "clean" places ???

- it's a neutron-capturing substance,
-> here again : neutrons from inside going up / or neutrons from the outside trying to come in ...
ask yourself why it would be important for Nature to have an element like Boron capturing these neutrons in the CAPS of SALTDOMES ???
You know that everything in Nature has a purpose !

- the work involving malignant cells and energies
-> in human bodies and thus also in the Earth herself ... its a cleaning element ! Restoration ?

- resistance to thermal shock
-> thus as there was an event of thermal shock coming from outside the Earth, coming from space .. boron would resist the effects of it ... so it protects that what it makes part of [where its veins run through] ???

- boron compounds play a strengthening role in the cell walls of all plants, making boron necessary in soils.
-> Thus could we say that it also strengthening for the walls of salt-domes ? or other "walls" in the soil ?
Remember that it was found out that shockwaves of EM-energy did NOT GO THROUGH the salt-dome caps, but travelled AROUND it !!! Is this because of these veins of boron leading through these salt-dome caps ??


For lifeforms :
- Boron is essential to life
- mildly antimicrobial and antibiotic
- boron compounds play a strengthening role in the cell walls

- Why are magnets with boron components the strongest type of permanent magnets ????

What could THAT tell us about the salt-domes it veins through, and the cells it reinforces ???
-> Remember that salt-domes had anomalous gravity readings ??? Gravity & MAGNETISM !!!!
What does a magnet : it pulls ...
well at the blue places on ISIS' link that showed anomalous gravity area's of the Earth, the GRAVITY WAS VERY STRONG !!! PULLING DOWN !
I think that boron has a play in THAT.



These things above are the neat and important things to look at,
and not the use of compounds in some cheap kitchenware.


xxxK
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- from briefcase thread...

...


I Rest my case. Please listen to BHD he knows everything ...
 Quoting: acolyte


You imply that you have real information about this.
Why not tell us a bit rather than sidestepping the comment with sarcasm?

I think it's safe to say most of us are interested in truth more than speculation and misinformation.
hf
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Hey listen to BHD and K, they seem to know and are able to connect dots to everything ... literaly.
Who the fuck cares what the OP or Rubicon thinks, they have their minds all made up. No wonder the bezerk thread is so confusing.

Yeah stick with K and BHD, they seem to be the enlightened ones ,and they dont give a fuck about what me/OP thinks.

They promise all happy thougts and good feelings. So Go with that, it seems that is what you want. Heaven forbid anyone should point out how screwed up we are and the danger we are in. Hell lets all send mythical good light and happy thoughts. If that is what you want and need you better off joining a david wilcock session.

You disgust me.
 Quoting: acolyte


Hey Aco .... no need to be rude ... we are all trying to figure this out ..

You fucking started the bezerk thread ... bullshitted everyone (you even bullshitted yourself) ... then when things got heated, you fucked off???

now you come along and try and criticize what everyone else says??

why the fuck don't you just post a closing statement telling us all about what you know and whay you 'think' (in clear easy to understand language)

and lay off the klipdrift and old brown when you frequent forums

*dim*
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Krispness, you are a know it all apparently, and so am I. Plus we all disgust the man.

Meh... when he has something constructive to say, and not playing his old games of division, maybe more will listen.

I am always happy to siddown and shatup, when anyone else has something to say. I can prove that by my posts.

But a's way is his way or the high way, like a script.

Nice to see *dim* about. Thanks for the words. hf
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By next year the USA will be the biggest exporter of oil and gas on the planet.

So with all that production.... why do they need even more, and everyone else also more and more, at a frenzied pace.

Why do we need so much more oil out of the planet, and in to our biosphere and bodies?

Good post K.

@ PrePer and Isis, the time thing does my head in. Every time, LOL.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


BHD, ISIS, KRISPY The TIME Thing requires a ...

Different Kind Of DNA

Acknowledging that it takes “a different kind of DNA” to drill multimillion-dollar wildcats to test the merits of a new interpretation of the geology underlying a producing province considered mature, Moffett says ultradeep exploration requires specialized knowledge and skill sets, along with a good bit of nerve.

“If you have not been in high-pressure drilling or spent time looking at data on deeper pool structures, frankly, you are like a goat looking at a new gate,” he posits. “Drilling these wells and evaluating these sands is a whole new ballgame, and there is no way to learn it overnight. The only way to get there is by living through some of the experiences and knowing how to react to situations.”

With no analogue data from nearby offsets, Moffett adds that the mentality it takes to drill to uncharted depths with unknown temperatures and pressures harkens back to his college years, and an adage often repeated by hall-of-famer Darrell Royal, the former football coach at the University of Texas at Austin, where Moffett was a two-year letterman: Winners never quit and quitters never win.

“The margin between a dry hole and a discovery is sometimes almost inexplicable,”
he suggests:

“You have to keep your spirit. It is a business where those who have succeeded have enough moxie, courage and perseverance to turn their failures into successes.”


A Different Kind Of DNA ~

involves the underlying Harmonics, waveforms and entnglements, themselves into and out of higher dimensions BHD!

NO MORE so-called JUNK DNA, please?


Every TIME!!


Preceptor
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- from briefcase thread...

...


You imply that you have real information about this.
Why not tell us a bit rather than sidestepping the comment with sarcasm?

I think it's safe to say most of us are interested in truth more than speculation and misinformation.
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2920692

Hey listen to BHD and K, they seem to know and are able to connect dots to everything ... literaly.
Who the fuck cares what the OP or Rubicon thinks, they have their minds all made up. No wonder the bezerk thread is so confusing.

Yeah stick with K and BHD, they seem to be the enlightened ones ,and they dont give a fuck about what me/OP thinks.

They promise all happy thougts and good feelings. So Go with that, it seems that is what you want. Heaven forbid anyone should point out how screwed up we are and the danger we are in. Hell lets all send mythical good light and happy thoughts. If that is what you want and need you better off joining a david wilcock session.

You disgust me.
 Quoting: acolyte


Hey Aco .... no need to be rude ... we are all trying to figure this out ..

You fucking started the bezerk thread ... bullshitted everyone (you even bullshitted yourself) ... then when things got heated, you fucked off???

now you come along and try and criticize what everyone else says??

why the fuck don't you just post a closing statement telling us all about what you know and whay you 'think' (in clear easy to understand language)

and lay off the klipdrift and old brown when you frequent forums

*dim*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20129820



Krispness, you are a know it all apparently, and so am I. Plus we all disgust the man.

Meh... when he has something constructive to say, and not playing his old games of division, maybe more will listen.

I am always happy to siddown and shatup, when anyone else has something to say. I can prove that by my posts.

But a's way is his way or the high way, like a script.

Nice to see *dim* about. Thanks for the words. hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay


BHD, KRISPY

Seems the latest upsurge of deep sea drilling information and the alarming consequences posited by you both, has got the better of acolyte (and his ilk), who are sulking ~ Why?

Is this because you're ahead of the Game?

The virtually unknown Davy Jones Locker thing shows you the extent of of the secret global experiments and likely dangers in tampering with Nature, in face of so much uncertainty.

The TIME Thing referred to relates to this too, and the consequent head scratching by BHD and a few others in relation to Junk DNA has ironically, just been identified by David Wilcox (!) Aco's friend, who talks in terms of: The Source Field Investigations and Looking Glass Technology in the Source Field Book.

The Universe is NOT built on the Uncertainty Waves principle of Heisenberg, coupled to the de Broglie waves in quantum physics.

When a particle becomes a wave it spreads out in Time ~ it exists in the past, present and future simultaneously!

Matter is flip-flopping into and out of this parallel reality.

WATER molecules can flip over naturally into this parallel reality, depending on the (deep water) pressure, and stay there, ~ forming a "portal" between our world and the world of 3-D TIME!.

Turn the pressure off and you may have a "stargate".

No wonder Aco or his masters, cannot keep up with this?

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icing on the cake...

[link to youtu.be]


(things are beyond control in the lake system/s)
note this channel is arcticportal1

edit for spelling

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hi

I have had a pleasant holiday with my grandson, fun times,

and now I've lots to catch up on...

Oh, and Sonny Boy has gifted me with some personalized smilies; a tribute to the bezerkness of it all.

isis_oh_no isis_nope isis_popcorn

Thank you Sonny Boy hf
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Isis: I like your smileys.
MZK: I like your new avatar.
@*Dim* Hi there. Long time no see!
I'm sure there are a lot of us old timers here who check in a few times a day. We are here, just quiet about it. In my case I now have a family and a business to deal with so I lurk a lot during my work day.
Hi BHD. Keep up the good fight.
It is now 0700 in Seattle, about time for my first customer. And it's raining.
Your unban request was denied.
About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still.
Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort
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Isis: I like your smileys.
MZK: I like your new avatar.
@*Dim* Hi there. Long time no see!
I'm sure there are a lot of us old timers here who check in a few times a day. We are here, just quiet about it. In my case I now have a family and a business to deal with so I lurk a lot during my work day.
Hi BHD. Keep up the good fight.
It is now 0700 in Seattle, about time for my first customer. And it's raining.
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readup
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Krispness, you are a know it all apparently, and so am I. Plus we all disgust the man.

Meh... when he has something constructive to say, and not playing his old games of division, maybe more will listen.

I am always happy to siddown and shatup, when anyone else has something to say. I can prove that by my posts.

But a's way is his way or the high way, like a script.

Nice to see *dim* about. Thanks for the words. hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Well geez... Something said or found sure must have jerked his panties in a knot. He about bit my head off! lol

Wonder exactly what it was. Any ideas?
hf
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- from briefcase thread...

...


You imply that you have real information about this.
Why not tell us a bit rather than sidestepping the comment with sarcasm?

I think it's safe to say most of us are interested in truth more than speculation and misinformation.
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2920692

Hey listen to BHD and K, they seem to know and are able to connect dots to everything ... literaly.
Who the fuck cares what the OP or Rubicon thinks, they have their minds all made up. No wonder the bezerk thread is so confusing.

Yeah stick with K and BHD, they seem to be the enlightened ones ,and they dont give a fuck about what me/OP thinks.

They promise all happy thougts and good feelings. So Go with that, it seems that is what you want. Heaven forbid anyone should point out how screwed up we are and the danger we are in. Hell lets all send mythical good light and happy thoughts. If that is what you want and need you better off joining a david wilcock session.

You disgust me.
 Quoting: acolyte


Hey Aco .... no need to be rude ... we are all trying to figure this out ..

You fucking started the bezerk thread ... bullshitted everyone (you even bullshitted yourself) ... then when things got heated, you fucked off???

now you come along and try and criticize what everyone else says??

why the fuck don't you just post a closing statement telling us all about what you know and whay you 'think' (in clear easy to understand language)

and lay off the klipdrift and old brown when you frequent forums

*dim*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20129820



Krispness, you are a know it all apparently, and so am I. Plus we all disgust the man.

Meh... when he has something constructive to say, and not playing his old games of division, maybe more will listen.

I am always happy to siddown and shatup, when anyone else has something to say. I can prove that by my posts.

But a's way is his way or the high way, like a script.

Nice to see *dim* about. Thanks for the words. hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay



Okayyyyyyyy ...
I can only speak for myself [but I know you feel the same way BHD, and some others]
but hell-nooo we dont have all the answers
we look for EXPLANATIONS though, and favourably backed-up by science/articles/reports/history/myths,
and yes there are some splashes of my own feelings and intuition.

At least WE [bezerker-family] went on and forward
where Aco left and backed out [a decision of Rubicon & himself].
I understand that it might hurt a bit that his "baby" [thread] does well and is still running strong without Himself ...

Yes, collectively we have been able to connect some dots.
Every-one knows that even though we have idd our own thoughts, we -as you say- are always willing to listen and consider other views and possibilities ... we might even change(d) our thoughts on some aspects.

Bezerk has become less confusing without all the code(s) mixed with factoids and fictions and disinformaticons lolsign

Aco seems to forget that we still reach back to Aco's original posts and quotes ...

He is playing the hurt and victimized poor person again,
he is twisting facts again into mirrors and smoke ...

NONE of US here claims to be enlightened or thinks he/she is enlightened. NEITHER do we say or claim that ALL-LL-BE-GOOD or solely happy.
Transitions and transformations always go along with bless/bliss AND PAIN [think of a baby's birth or a butterflies birth, they are not easy]. And taking responsibility for your own thoughts and actions is also not all about happy.
We Bezerkers are not in delusion that there is no or will be no danger, yes there is, but we do say that FEAR is not the best way to react to it ... consciousness is, and it brings along compassion, and "compassion" is also nothing about a "mythical colored light".

THE ONE thing we DONT NEED and dont want, is some-one seeding out personal attacks tomato with no constructive/contributing grain in it, or with respectless sarcasm, or with being rude.


Yes TNX *dim*,
and TNX to all YOU who are still here lurking or contributing openly.


xxx K
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Krispness, you are a know it all apparently, and so am I. Plus we all disgust the man.

Meh... when he has something constructive to say, and not playing his old games of division, maybe more will listen.

I am always happy to siddown and shatup, when anyone else has something to say. I can prove that by my posts.

But a's way is his way or the high way, like a script.

Nice to see *dim* about. Thanks for the words. hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Well geez... Something said or found sure must have jerked his panties in a knot. He about bit my head off! lol

Wonder exactly what it was. Any ideas?
hf
 Quoting: lasombra


What about all of the last 10 pages (and before) ???
Yes imo we were on the right track to be close to bulls-eye what concerns the sinkholes & Gom and salt-domes
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hi

I have had a pleasant holiday with my grandson, fun times,

and now I've lots to catch up on...

Oh, and Sonny Boy has gifted me with some personalized smilies; a tribute to the bezerkness of it all.

isis_oh_no isis_nope isis_popcorn

Thank you Sonny Boy hf
 Quoting: Isis7



LOVE your smilies !!!!

cheer
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BHD, KRISPY

Seems the latest upsurge of deep sea drilling information and the alarming consequences posited by you both, has got the better of acolyte (and his ilk), who are sulking ~ Why?

Is this because you're ahead of the Game?

The virtually unknown Davy Jones Locker thing shows you the extent of of the secret global experiments and likely dangers in tampering with Nature, in face of so much uncertainty.

The TIME Thing referred to relates to this too, and the consequent head scratching by BHD and a few others in relation to Junk DNA has ironically, just been identified by David Wilcox (!) Aco's friend, who talks in terms of: The Source Field Investigations and Looking Glass Technology in the Source Field Book.

The Universe is NOT built on the Uncertainty Waves principle of Heisenberg, coupled to the de Broglie waves in quantum physics.

When a particle becomes a wave it spreads out in Time ~ it exists in the past, present and future simultaneously!

Matter is flip-flopping into and out of this parallel reality.

WATER molecules can flip over naturally into this parallel reality, depending on the (deep water) pressure, and stay there, ~ forming a "portal" between our world and the world of 3-D TIME!.

Turn the pressure off and you may have a "stargate".

No wonder Aco or his masters, cannot keep up with this?

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Yup ---> deep sea drilling information

yup ---> the extent of of the secret global experiments and likely dangers in tampering with Nature, in face of so much uncertainty

yup ---> de Broglie Waves
In 1924 a young physicist, de Broglie, speculated that nature did not single out light as being the only matter which exhibits a wave-particle duality. He proposed that ordinary ``particles'' such as electrons, protons, or bowling balls could also exhibit wave characteristics in certain circumstances. [link to theory.uwinnipeg.ca]
De Broglie waves account for the appearance of subatomic particles at conventionally unexpected sites because their waves penetrate barriers much as sound passes through walls. Thus a heavy atomic nucleus occasionally can eject a piece of itself in a process called alpha decay. The piece of nucleus (alpha particle) has insufficient energy as a particle to overcome the force barrier surrounding the nucleus; but as a wave it can leak through the barrier—that is, it has a finite probability of being found outside the nucleus. [link to www.britannica.com]



Tnx hf


XXXK
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MZK: I like your new avatar.

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Tnx :D
Its the real me, as I am.
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MZK: I like your new avatar.

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Tnx :D
Its the real me, as I am.
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Ms Krispy, you are blessed in Mind, Spirit, and Body.

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BHD, KRISPY

Seems the latest upsurge of deep sea drilling information and the alarming consequences posited by you both, has got the better of acolyte (and his ilk), who are sulking ~ Why?

Is this because you're ahead of the Game?

The virtually unknown Davy Jones Locker thing shows you the extent of of the secret global experiments and likely dangers in tampering with Nature, in face of so much uncertainty.

The TIME Thing referred to relates to this too, and the consequent head scratching by BHD and a few others in relation to Junk DNA has ironically, just been identified by David Wilcox (!) Aco's friend, who talks in terms of: The Source Field Investigations and Looking Glass Technology in the Source Field Book.

The Universe is NOT built on the Uncertainty Waves principle of Heisenberg, coupled to the de Broglie waves in quantum physics.

When a particle becomes a wave it spreads out in Time ~ it exists in the past, present and future simultaneously!

Matter is flip-flopping into and out of this parallel reality.

WATER molecules can flip over naturally into this parallel reality, depending on the (deep water) pressure, and stay there, ~ forming a "portal" between our world and the world of 3-D TIME!.

Turn the pressure off and you may have a "stargate".

No wonder Aco or his masters, cannot keep up with this?

PRECEPTOR
 Quoting: PERCEPTOR 26355761


The time aspect is intriguing PP.

PP? No... LOL.

I really like the idea of particles and even living things being able to exist multidimensionally. By our measurements, they stop weighing anything, stop giving off signs of life etc, but they are still there.

Ages back we discussed the idea that augie, or the fluid, may well be multidimensional, and serve a common purpose uniting each dimension or density.

The weight fluctuation of the cases. Contents phasing in and out of our realm?
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So, am I bad for biting?
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So, am I bad for biting?
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lol Your just you, not bad at all.

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SINKHOLE UPDATE, Nov. 27, 2012

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GLP