I had a huge UFO experience and need to hear from others if they have seen same...

Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.

Would it be possible to convince your extended family to post their experience in this thread? I realize it can be difficult to talk about but it may help find answers.



Just getting them to open up to me was a major undertaking, which started with me talking to one and then they would say, "You really need to talk to so-and-so." I had to build this chain of information over the past few years and I believe very few have written it down. There is a stigma attached to these experiences...and most of them are afraid of being thought of as "crazy". I am working on compiling the information for future generations of our family. Not an easy task at this point.

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Salt and Light you said,
Do you have thoughts about the apocryphal book of Adam and Eve book 1 & 2? I just got finished reading them with Secrets of Enoch. Is there anything there that relates to what you are trying to show me?

I am wondering what are your thoughts, as I do not know you' and may comment on something that is not of importance to you, as of now.


the parts i found interesting about the book of adam and eve had to do with the nature of "the garden" and the nature of their bodies before and after being expelled. i have done some study on this and there are some compelling points. adam and eve's bodies were angelic-like before leaving the garden and then afterward painfully developed physical bodies which is described in detail within the book. they did not "eat" like we understand eating food. their countenance and eyes were different and saw things in a different way that we do with human eyes. and even more compelling was the deceptive tactics used by Satayeen. The tactics were deceptive in the extreme and continued every single day since the moment they entered the garden and explains why. So deceptive and cunning that it required divine intervention to show adam and eve what was going on.

i will go get the book and quote some passages of interest.

the sound was like crickets chirping, only no chirp, just constant almost like fax machine but not as squealy and no interruption in the tone, one constant drone which felt like static in the air in a way. I think the projected image was a cloaking device of some sort, we were not meant to see what was behind it. My exhusband can remember it but goes emotionless and doesn't want to talk about it. Knowing him, it was too much for him and he minimalized it and doesn't want it in his thoughts. And when I pushed him to talk about it, he got angry raising his voice which he never raised his voice with me.

Dumpling, do you have migraines or headaches of any kind? Or maybe chronic neck & shoulder pain? I've had a similar experience during a period of bad migraines. Afterward, my migraines eased for while.
I could hear them talking, and it sounded like little gremlin voices, and something like the sound of Saturn that is in a video that was floating around here. Anyway, what I picked up was that they were trying to fix something that was making my migraines worse. I was having bad neck/shoulder pain with the headaches.
While the migraines are back to usual, the neck/shoulder pain rarely occurs with them anymore.

1) they are territorial and can only be in territories that God is not standing in.

2) they are interested in disturbing the Adam bloodline and this agenda has been going on since the beginning of man.

3) they can use other bloodlines but are particularly interested in Adamic line. Holds more value to them. The other bloodlines that can be used are more for drones, like stormtroopers for evil agenda.

4) Those who are saved and believe and trust in God have authority over them. They cannot tamper with you if God is with you.

5) they are fallen angels, not aliens from another planet. they are demons and agents of Satan. (Read "The Omega Conspiracy") Agenda is to take God out of man forever. (Read Book of Adam and Eve) I will go into more detail later today on this topic.

6) They can be conjured.

lol aliens are SCIENCE FICTION

But if you want to keep talking about it go ahead, I won't stop you or anyone else

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thank you for this video. i am looking at it in its entirety now. very informative and lending to my own theory. what is your opinion on this subject?

OP, anything like this, 50 seconds in:




thank you for this video. i am looking at it in its entirety now. very informative and lending to my own theory. what is your opinion on this subject?



The fallen angels(watchers) gave the technology to the U.S. government, that ship is government.

As You can see its transparent, it cloaks, I know they have different shapes because the Lord showed me a vision of the triangle ones.

The dream had three triangle ships in the black starless night sky, they had red lights and were searching for something on the surface, the ground looked like it had been devastated by some disaster and it looked like it had flooded there, almost like a river with buildings sticking out.

1) they are territorial and can only be in territories that God is not standing in.

2) they are interested in disturbing the Adam bloodline and this agenda has been going on since the beginning of man.

3) they can use other bloodlines but are particularly interested in Adamic line. Holds more value to them. The other bloodlines that can be used are more for drones, like stormtroopers for evil agenda.

4) Those who are saved and believe and trust in God have authority over them. They cannot tamper with you if God is with you.

5) they are fallen angels, not aliens from another planet. they are demons and agents of Satan. (Read "The Omega Conspiracy") Agenda is to take God out of man forever. (Read Book of Adam and Eve) I will go into more detail later today on this topic.

6) They can be conjured.



Salt & Light,

You state some very interesting conclusions here which I for one believe are all true. There were some replies immediately following what you wrote which vehemently attack both you and your conclusions which indicates the truth in them.

The fallen angels will do almost anything to convince us they are not evil or do not exist, but we both know that is not the case. Their leader is Lucifer, the father of lies and the accuser of God's people before His throne.

Your experiences and conclusions mirror my own. I belive we are living in an era analogous to those described in the apocryphal texts. The servants of The Evil One are interbreeding with the human race now as in the antediluvian period.

Those that understand and expose the truth are attacked. Our only refuge and strength is in Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.

Jesus Christ is our Light, Path, Truth, Living Water, Protector, Guide, Shepherd, Savior.

Invoking his name in faith and total convicton drives away these entities; of this I have no doubt.

Praying in the Holy Spirit comforts us and removes the fear that the fallen ones illicit in us. The Holy Spirit also trains and instructs.

When we put on the armour of God; Truth, Peace, Righteousness, Salvation, Faith and the Sword of the Spirit we can be assailed but not overcome.

Once you establish yourself firmly and irrovocably in this path I pray that you would interceed for others that are still struggling.

I pray daily in the Spirit that:

1) God's beleivers (communion of saints) here on earth are protected and comforted.

2) The plans of the wicked one and his dominions are thwarted and that they be bound, chained and cast into the lake of fire in the name of Jesus Christ.

3) The plans of those that use the power of The Evil One are reversed and they fall into the traps that they set for the humanity.

4) The Holy Spirit fall on the hearts of the unbeleivers and shine a light ito their darkness.

5) Our Lord and King come quickly to deliver us before conditions become totally out of control such that even some of His believers lose their faith.

Fear Not! If God be for us, who can be against us?

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thank you for this video. i am looking at it in its entirety now. very informative and lending to my own theory. what is your opinion on this subject?



The fallen angels(watchers) gave the technology to the U.S. government, that ship is government.

As You can see its transparent, it cloaks, I know they have different shapes because the Lord showed me a vision of the triangle ones.

The dream had three triangle ships in the black starless night sky, they had red lights and were searching for something on the surface, the ground looked like it had been devastated by some disaster and it looked like it had flooded there, almost like a river with buildings sticking out.

OP, anything like this, 50 seconds in:




thank you for this video. i am looking at it in its entirety now. very informative and lending to my own theory. what is your opinion on this subject?



The fallen angels(watchers) gave the technology to the U.S. government, that ship is government.

As You can see its transparent, it cloaks, I know they have different shapes because the Lord showed me a vision of the triangle ones.

The dream had three triangle ships in the black starless night sky, they had red lights and were searching for something on the surface, the ground looked like it had been devastated by some disaster and it looked like it had flooded there, almost like a river with buildings sticking out.


I had a dream that had a ship that looked very similar to the underside of the one in this video. In the dream I was walking down the street of my neighborhood and it was night time and I heard this hissing noise (sort of a hissss...snuck, hissss....snuck) from above the rooftops of the houses on this street. I looked over and a giant ship looking almost exactly like the underside of the one in this video began to pass over. It was dark in color like brownish black and very intricate metal pieces and pipes with tiny red lights here and there. All i could see was the underside but it was huge at least as big as football field and started passing right over my head just a few yards above the rooftops.

In the next scene i was in a basement somewhere (reminded me of the basement of a bar where our old band used to play and the dressing rooms were down there.) My mother of all people was in one of the "dressing rooms" looking in a mirror and crying. I tried to speak with her from the doorway of this room but she would not respond. The next moment, and this is going to sound comical, but here goes, i looked down the hallway of this basement and a little gray was standing there looking at me and was wearing a janitor uniform (yeah i know crazy, right?) And I woke up...

The grays are fallen Cherubim, the gargoyle looking ones with cat eyes are fallen Seraphim and the Nords are the Nephilim.

They can use human flesh to look human, there are many mixed in the human population and people can't tell the difference, "invasion of the body snatchers" is closer to reality than people think.

lol aliens are SCIENCE FICTION

lol aliens are SCIENCE FICTION

The grays are fallen Cherubim, the gargoyle looking ones with cat eyes are fallen Seraphim and the Nords are the Nephilim.

They can use human flesh to look human, there are many mixed in the human population and people can't tell the difference, "invasion of the body snatchers" is closer to reality than people think.


Have you read about the Gregori? That is another species of angel that had very black skin with wrinkled up faces and deep frowns.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.



She could of been a good angel or fallen one, all Seraphim fallen one or not have cats eyes because they are in the presence of the Lord and the Lord is very bright lol.


The difference between the fallen ones and the ones with the Lord is the fallen ones wings are gone and the evil smiles.


If the MUFON lady was one from the Lord it would have given You a ominous scary kind of feeling if You weren't saved, the evil ones try to make You feel as good as possible to deceive.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.



She could of been a good angel or fallen one, all Seraphim fallen one or not have cats eyes because they are in the presence of the Lord and the Lord is very bright lol.


The difference between the fallen ones and the ones with the Lord is the fallen ones wings are gone and the evil smiles.


If the MUFON lady was one from the Lord it would have given You a ominous scary kind of feeling if You weren't saved, the evil ones try to make You feel as good as possible to deceive.


well it is hard to discern because she did tell me about how she used the Lord's prayer to make the grays go away from her bedside. but this was after long diatribes about being abducted and used for creating hybrids. then after she did the freaky eye thing, she seemed pleased in an evil way that she successfully scared the shit out of me. my hunch is that there was no good in her.

i was not saved at that point.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.



She could of been a good angel or fallen one, all Seraphim fallen one or not have cats eyes because they are in the presence of the Lord and the Lord is very bright lol.


The difference between the fallen ones and the ones with the Lord is the fallen ones wings are gone and the evil smiles.


If the MUFON lady was one from the Lord it would have given You a ominous scary kind of feeling if You weren't saved, the evil ones try to make You feel as good as possible to deceive.


well it is hard to discern because she did tell me about how she used the Lord's prayer to make the grays go away from her bedside. but this was after long diatribes about being abducted and used for creating hybrids. then after she did the freaky eye thing, she seemed pleased in an evil way that she successfully scared the shit out of me. my hunch is that there was no good in her.

i was not saved at that point.



I don't know, a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, I've found that just rebuking them in the name of Jesus works, she could of been human, if she was saved it could of scared You to if You weren't. The ones belonging to the Lord that have learned how to do spiritual warfare scare everything else.

I did not get the impression that she was saved. i don't remember her saying anything about God or Jesus or being saved at all during my time with her. Usually people who are saved and within this type of situation take opportunities to discuss appropriate scripture and what not to guide an unsaved thru.

BTW: I have really no idea about the ones with frowns unless its ancient misinformation or something I don't know about, I do know he fallen Seraphim have black skin.


What kind of eyes did the MUFON lady have?


she looked human in every way, but her eyes changed, which she seemed to show me deliberately, and they seemed very inhuman and scary. silvery blue iris, pinhole pupil, and she made her eyes go real wide which made the iris seem too small and the whites all around the eye were showing. it was a flash of a sight, and then they went back to normal almost as if a switch was thrown.



She could of been a good angel or fallen one, all Seraphim fallen one or not have cats eyes because they are in the presence of the Lord and the Lord is very bright lol.


The difference between the fallen ones and the ones with the Lord is the fallen ones wings are gone and the evil smiles.


If the MUFON lady was one from the Lord it would have given You a ominous scary kind of feeling if You weren't saved, the evil ones try to make You feel as good as possible to deceive.


well it is hard to discern because she did tell me about how she used the Lord's prayer to make the grays go away from her bedside. but this was after long diatribes about being abducted and used for creating hybrids. then after she did the freaky eye thing, she seemed pleased in an evil way that she successfully scared the shit out of me. my hunch is that there was no good in her.

i was not saved at that point.



I don't know, a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, I've found that just rebuking them in the name of Jesus works, she could of been human, if she was saved it could of scared You to if You weren't. The ones belonging to the Lord that have learned how to do spiritual warfare scare everything else.


I did not get the impression that she was saved. i don't remember her saying anything about God or Jesus or being saved at all during my time with her. Usually people who are saved and within this type of situation take opportunities to discuss appropriate scripture and what not to guide an unsaved thru.