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2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1183814These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works. Humans are eternal? Last i checked the average life expectancy is about 70 or so years isn't it? The soul is eternal but not the hu-man. i think its a fantastic idea if it doesn't get into the wrong hands. Oh wait, it's probably to late for that. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1183794 United Kingdom 12/04/2010 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are you calling BS on AC? The whole concept of downloading a person's brain into a computer as a means of prolonging life. The idea is just shit. Life is much more than simply the sum totality of a person's thoughts and memories. |
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2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Want to connect your brain to a computer, check this out. [link to www.helium.com] www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are you calling BS on AC? The whole concept of downloading a person's brain into a computer as a means of prolonging life. The idea is just shit. Life is much more than simply the sum totality of a person's thoughts and memories. i understand where your coming from. And i still think its a great idea. Does this mean that your soul will transfer with your memories, probably not. Could your soul re-attach itself to the new body, i think yes. Thanks for your explanation sounds better than a BS flag. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder if this just means the human brain has been backed up and when the physical brain dies, you are still dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178210The physical portal is dead, so you get a new one with the same memories and upgraded software. DNA is basically biological code. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1183814 United States 12/04/2010 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal. Quoting: 2342These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works. Humans are eternal? Last i checked the average life expectancy is about 70 or so years isn't it? The soul is eternal but not the hu-man. i think its a fantastic idea if it doesn't get into the wrong hands. Oh wait, it's probably to late for that. Physical life is just part of the human equation. If you haven't learned that yet you are in for a pleasant surprise when this small subset of your experience is over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1178210 United Kingdom 12/04/2010 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder if this just means the human brain has been backed up and when the physical brain dies, you are still dead. Quoting: 2342The physical portal is dead, so you get a new one with the same memories and upgraded software. DNA is basically biological code. But isn't your brain your consciousness? If it's replaced by a machine then it'll just be something acting the same way as you do but you yourself will still be dead? |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1183814These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works. Humans are eternal? Last i checked the average life expectancy is about 70 or so years isn't it? The soul is eternal but not the hu-man. i think its a fantastic idea if it doesn't get into the wrong hands. Oh wait, it's probably to late for that. Physical life is just part of the human equation. If you haven't learned that yet you are in for a pleasant surprise when this small subset of your experience is over. Oh really, what's the pleasant surprise then? Last Edited by 2342 on 12/04/2010 08:40 AM www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder if this just means the human brain has been backed up and when the physical brain dies, you are still dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178210The physical portal is dead, so you get a new one with the same memories and upgraded software. DNA is basically biological code. But isn't your brain your consciousness? If it's replaced by a machine then it'll just be something acting the same way as you do but you yourself will still be dead? Ok, the brain is a biological hard drive. Your spirit is consciousness. If your hard drive is messed up, it will effect the rest of the computer right. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1183693 Germany 12/04/2010 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old news. The Mayans did this long long ago. The shaman takes his or hers consciousness, right before they die, and place it into an object, like a crystal skull or any object for that matter. They used skulls so people would recognise that a shaman was in there, and not to destroy the skull. And the shamans conciousness thats transferred into the crystal skull or object, can be retrieved and placed back into a human. |
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2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/04/2010 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old news. The Mayans did this long long ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1183693The shaman takes his or hers consciousness, right before they die, and place it into an object, like a crystal skull or any object for that matter. They used skulls so people would recognise that a shaman was in there, and not to destroy the skull. And the shamans conciousness thats transferred into the crystal skull or object, can be retrieved and placed back into a human. Thats old news, this isn't. They used Objects like Crystals. This is referring to a Computer interface. i study shamanism. Incredible. My GG Grandma was a Shaman/ Medicine Woman. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 440442 Australia 12/04/2010 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote from website... Is an upload still a person? Even if we assume that an upload is alive, it may be argued that it's not really a person -- because it was created by humans, or because it doesn't consist of biological tissue. Since special rights are often attributed to persons, this in an important question. The general consensus on the net seems to be that uploads are just as human (i.e., "persons") as biological humans. Indeed, this seems so obvious to most people that the issue has received very little discussion. Still, from a philosophical standpoint it deserves more attention. End of quote... It would really deserve more attention! Where is my soul or my spirit or my conscious ?? What's with emotions and feelings ??? I would not like to leave the sum of my personal experiences to play around on a computer... I do not believe it would be me at all... |
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2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/05/2010 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would conclude that the mind can become immortal, however, humans cannnot be immortal. Once your mind becomes immortal in this fashion, you are no longer human. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967932Good point. More like Transhuman ? www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/05/2010 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Memories only shape who we are. They are like the hard drive in your computer. You can take the drive out and put it in another computer and that computer will have the information of the former computer, but it isn't the same computer. Quoting: Wayne_KerYes memories do help shape who we are. And your analogy makes a good point. Similar to cloning a human, almost the same, not exactly the same. Do you think your soul could reattach itself to the vessel? www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States 12/05/2010 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: X 1183188 Thanks for the link, looked over the article. Rudy Rucker is basically a futurist right? www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |