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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329606 United Kingdom 04/19/2011 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i saw a documentary on tv about this a few years back. there are people scrambling to make this freak show a reality. and some people are doing everything possible to live long enough until this technology is a reality. for me it feels freaky and I just cant get my head around it. i think it would be a mental clone of you, but ultimately it wouldn't be you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7063795 United States 02/19/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Illuminati use the natal chart of the souls progress. THe circuit board is the planets that conduct electro magnetic pulses to affect the neurons and ionic field Once the person reaches AVATAR worthy level in the natal chart and life experience than the Great Work is done. Masonic use of Astrology. [link to www.amazon.com] :starchart: |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 11096330 United States 02/19/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consciousness is more than just electrical impulses in the brain. Having the memories downloaded onto a computer is not gonna allow the computer to be alive and be the person that the memories are from. This will be about as useful for bringing someone back to life as having a first person video recording. According to the Bhagavad-gita, consciousness is a living spark of infinitesimal spiritual energy. When that spark of consciousness leaves the body, the body dies. That spark of consciousness cannot be transferred at will into a computer, because it is non material. "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7063795 United States 02/19/2012 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would conclude that the mind can become immortal, however, humans cannnot be immortal. Once your mind becomes immortal in this fashion, you are no longer human. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967932Good point, it would never be the same person. Plus sense of humor, emotions would not really exist, seems like really it would suck. Were not just raw data, intelligence and memories, Love and Lust and Emotions and fun come from Hormones, like Testosterone, Oxytocin, Vasopressin and Estrogen Its the high of Natural Opiates that give us the drive to surf the net for news headlines. Or looking up porn, or going online shopping, or going out and bowling and having fun Raw data alone wouldnt give us those drives or feelings. Our organic system is ingenious cause it is a mix and intricate flow of hormones. If you were a Android, Youd see a baby with no urge to cuddle it, Youd see a naked woman with no register of desire. |
Da Purple Chicken User ID: 7667691 United States 02/19/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm surprised nobody posted this yet The 6th Day [link to www.youtube.com] “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 664728 New Zealand 02/19/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hebrew words for "living soul" are nephesh chaiyah soul (nephesh) meaning "creature" or “breathing frame", from the verb "to breathe" living (chayiah) meaning "life" These two words are used of animals as well as humans. The word “soul” really means body, and is translated the following way in Genesis chapters 1 and 2: Genesis 1:20 "moving creature" - sea life verse 21 "living creature" - mammals verse 24 "living creature" - cattle, creeping thing, beast verse 30 "life" - beast of earth, fowl, creeping thing Genesis 2:7 "living soul" - man verse 19 "every living creature" - animal kingdom named by Adam This means that animals, fish, man and woman are all souls. SOUL The Hebrew word for "soul" is translated in the following ways: · Soul (428x) · life (119x) · person (30x) · self (19x) · heart (15x) · mind (15x) · creature (9x) · dead (8x) The following references show that the soul is not immortal, but simply relates to a person. There is nowhere in the Bible that says the soul lives on after death or goes to heaven. · A dead soul becomes a living soul Genesis 2:7 · A soul is born Genesis 46:8 · A soul eats Exodus 12:16 · A soul saved from death Psalm 56:13 · A soul dies Joshua 11:11 · A dead soul Leviticus 21:1,11 These references show that the soul involves the total person. It is not a separate, immortal part of a person. Immortality is something that has to be sought for (Romans 2:7) and is only given at the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:53,54). The immortality of the soul is a pagan Greek idea - the Bible teaches resurrection. A summary of Bible teaching on the soul: All souls die Ezekiel 18:4 Even righteous souls die Isaiah 53:12 There is NO hope of life apart from the resurrection 1 Corinthians 15:16-1 [link to yithron.blogspot.co.nz] |
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Da Purple Chicken User ID: 7667691 United States 02/19/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may be interested in this thread I started about immortality OP. Thread: Physical Immortality - Do You Want To Live Forever? “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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Fatstogie User ID: 1315794 United States 02/19/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are already immortal. Machines cannot over take you sir. Only in the simulation. Not in reality. |
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GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 8795702 United States 02/19/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would LOVE it. I could walk normal again, stand for hours, run again... Wonderful. :-) But then there's always that one bad guy that gets put into a machine and all hell breaks loose.!!. I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
Blue Dragon God User ID: 1462885 United States 02/19/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ian Pearson is a British futurist, cybernetic expert and artificial intelligence researcher. Quoting: 2342 Some experts say downloading all recorded memories from a brain will be happening before 2020. If this is being talked about in Public Field it's probably already active underground, don't you think? Because the Mil. is usually at least 40 years ahead of the curve. Has anyone seen Caprica or Battlestar Galactica? Caprica is the beginning of the Cylons. They are created the exact same way, by downloading all the memories of an individual into a computer that then turns the memories into an Avatar. This creates a spark of life and turns the Cylons into living beings. The Digital Immortality Institue (DII) is researching this now. Anders Sandberg a member of the new transhuman movement (Beyond Human), believes uploading minds and downloading them into new bodies is imminent. So Cloned bodies with Artificial Intelligence = New Human / Super Human. This is some incredible technology really. Think about it, cloned bodies with immunities to almost everything, no defects, then downloaded memories combined with new memories / software. The new brain would have a direct connection to the BORG via Wifi. Another Transhumanist, Al Yudkowky is convinced this technology must be developed befofre a group or gov. with evil intentions does it first. Do you guys think this is a good idea? [link to www.helium.com] Only the wealthy will be able to afford this... so there is no need for you and I to even consider it.... Have a Great Day ! Blue Dragon God "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10183013 United States 02/19/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is common practice already for the elite. IBM's blue gene system is specially designed for the task. Many mentors such as Steve Jobs and Bill Gates have virtual versions. They not only act and respond like the original, they are actively working on holographic representation so they can supplement their originators at speaking engagements and the like. A full digital image takes about 90TB of space and requires 5 24-cpu machines with 128gb of ram per to perform at human speeds. When hosted on a blue gene they are many times faster. Watson is a comercially available version of the technology. We are caprica. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9923745 Argentina 02/19/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder if this just means the human brain has been backed up and when the physical brain dies, you are still dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178210The physical portal is dead, so you get a new one with the same memories and upgraded software. DNA is basically biological code. But isn't your brain your consciousness? If it's replaced by a machine then it'll just be something acting the same way as you do but you yourself will still be dead? Ok, the brain is a biological hard drive. Your spirit is consciousness. If your hard drive is messed up, it will effect the rest of the computer right. There´s no consciousness. Check "The meme machine" of Susan Blackmore. Ego is a contruct of the memes to keep some kind of identity so the memes have an anchor in the body. |
Blue Dragon God User ID: 1462885 United States 02/19/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Illuminati use the natal chart of the souls progress. THe circuit board is the planets that conduct electro magnetic pulses to affect the neurons and ionic field Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI Once the person reaches AVATAR worthy level in the natal chart and life experience than the Great Work is done. Masonic use of Astrology. [link to www.amazon.com] :starchart: I do not recognize the authority of the Illumni nor do I fall subject to their childish ways... They are subject to me. Chart that. Blue Dragon God "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7063795 United States 02/19/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Illuminati use the natal chart of the souls progress. THe circuit board is the planets that conduct electro magnetic pulses to affect the neurons and ionic field Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI Once the person reaches AVATAR worthy level in the natal chart and life experience than the Great Work is done. Masonic use of Astrology. [link to www.amazon.com] :starchart: I do not recognize the authority of the Illumni nor do I fall subject to their childish ways... They are subject to me. Chart that. Illuminati is not what you learn from Lady Gaga videos or Jay Z. The Illuminati are astrological and mystic seers that study the planets and the Pythagorean theorims. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6872132 United States 02/19/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is common practice already for the elite. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10183013 IBM's blue gene system is specially designed for the task. Many mentors such as Steve Jobs and Bill Gates have virtual versions. They not only act and respond like the original, they are actively working on holographic representation so they can supplement their originators at speaking engagements and the like. A full digital image takes about 90TB of space and requires 5 24-cpu machines with 128gb of ram per to perform at human speeds. When hosted on a blue gene they are many times faster. Watson is a comercially available version of the technology. We are caprica. ^^ this ^^ it is not new tech. we do this every day. its expensive, for elites. |
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