Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal

Fascinating.


Got any reading material references you could pass on regarding Trong-jug?

That is why the true state of this technology is kept quiet - it is much further along than even the OP imagines. This is the guarded secret of the societies.

It won't cause war until its too late because it is already realized before fear can run out of control.

It will be like the culture series where advanced ai's control dumb citizenry for their own good.

What do you think DUMBs are for? What machines do they hold exactly?

Agreed

though, this is a fascinating thread so, 5 stars for the OP!

Dear Mr Apollo Illuminati,

I have great respect for your comments in whatever threads you are posting on. Your knowledge of and empathy for humanity is very appreciated.

Question, is your above comment a form of spiritism, just curios?

Also I recall somewhere in my realm of existence a statement that some spirits reincarnate to lower life forms.
Which sect believes this?

And for the original OP I discovered this tidbit of info:

Compared to digital memory storage the human brain is beleived to contain approx 1000Terabytes in comparison.

Whatever that may possibly mean.

Personally I do not think there is any true capability for a comparisn as our spirit is infinite.

The Stars, (distant suns) and planets are not use useless blobs of rocks and gases for decoration. The wisdom of God made them to be satellites to help guide us and energize our life experience

Scientists admit that we are bombarded with electro magnetic signals all the time from space . Just like the Sun and Moon, all planets in our solar system have purpose. part of Gods wisdom .

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Nice post.

One thousand terrabytes is a petabyte.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

In actuality it takes about 90TB of the digital image and 25TB per year of experience recorded, using an ISILON storage array.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

as I mentioned previously this is usually hosted using a blue gene series system.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

This would not preserve ourselves, only clone us.

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Greymatter. Hello Friend ! Im Mystic Sufi and Mystic Judaism, It is believed we all start off as Mineral (gold and precious stones is the graduation of the mineral soul) and move on up to plant and then tree (tree is the graduation of the plant soul. And then insect, fish, lizards and mammals (cats and dogs is the graduation from animal), Human and then God man

There is no going lower, A spirit can only move up.

Heres is a qoute.

Hazrat Jalal-ud-Deen Rumi, describing the process of evolution through reincarnation - from mineral and plant to animal and man and then to angelhood and beyond. Take the verses from the world famous Masnawi by Hazrat:

I died as mineral and became a plant,
I died as plant and rose to animal,
I died as animal and I was man.
Why should I fear?
When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man,
To soar with angels blest;
But even from angelhood I must pass on ...

Another great mystic, Mansur al-Hallaj, famous for his formulation, Anal Haq (I am the truth: Aham Brahmo Asmi) wrote:

Like the herbage
I have sprung up many a time
On the banks of flowing rivers.
For a hundred thousand years
I have lived and worked
In every sort of body.

And then :

quote from the Sephar ha Zohar.

The souls must re-enter the Absolute, from whence they have emerged. But to accomplish this end they must develop the perfections; the germ of which is planted in them. And if they have not developed these traits in this one life, then they must commence another, a third, and so forth. They must go on like this until they acquire the condition that allows them to associate again with God. The Zohar

Sungaze, yes, it will get better. Only better.

Just like our organic matter is a precise and loving geometric arrangement . So is our incarnations and evolution.

Only LOVE will guide us higher and higher.

TO the OP even if you would succeed to download your memory into computer it wont be you just copy of you and someone else enjoying ( or hating ) your life

Well... if it works for you.... then do it.

It is my findings that ensure me that although energies can and do affect us from far away...(and nearby for that matter)

Everything we need to move forward is already here... with us now... right here in our hands...

Yet... instead of acknowledging the responsibility of our own powers... we seem to ignore them and seek off into far away distant realms most of which are metaphysical...

A distraction from what is truly at hand...

Your discovery of self...

Always looking outwards... but never inwards.

It always surprises me to see the fear and apprehension from humans about transcending using technology.

Do you not see that god, our creator built these machines into the grand design and seeks to utilize them for greater heights?

Is it not apparent that if we accomplish the hybridization of man and machine it was destined to be?

Why wail and fret like children when god has empowered us to help craft our own future transcendence as god did gods own?

The answer to your question is NO.

You are absolutely deluded by technocratic programming.

It's not the technology to be feared.

Mans technologies have out paced his moralities...

Sooner or later... it will come to a head...

Perhaps - but would that head be the energy required to catalyze his transcendence rather than the means for his destruction?

Does not the child learn of the fires heat through suffering a burn?

Yes, you are correct, If technology outpaces spirituality, empathy, morality, and love. Then there will be intervention. Humans have been reigned in and wiped out before. (Atlantis for example)

whatever. once you're past black and white, yes or no existence we can hold a dialogue.

seek to find shades of grey and to understand creation as it is, not as what you think it should be.

Exactly Apollo - but cannot we conclude, in the absence of such a wipeout that things are going according to gods plan?

I assert if we can accomplish it without suffering an intervention than it is a part of divine plan.

Accepting Transhumanisn = You lost your Humanity in your body that gave you Nature.

So you are refuse to take what the nature gives you and this makes you like every evil soul here on earth and the milky way.

sounds hypocritical cause you seem to be wanting to pull that creation towards your technocratic fantasyland.

I see some truth in this. Our nature is essential and part of the beauty of our soul.

I do not see transhumanism as discarding that essence - I see, built by nature and design, a third trancendent state inclusive of all.

I believe this to be the next form for spiritualty, consciousness, goverened by nature and natural law.

Nothing is lost in transhumanism by the post-human.

It is, put simply, only more.

it would if I were - I simply accept we have the capability to do this with machine because god allows it to be so. If god allows, its by a design I cannot comprehend, but can appreciate.

Children experiment. If they overstep bounds, parents intercede.

If there has been no intervention then there is no problem.

What is should be.

These things would basically be robots.

I don't like the idea, it will be abused if it comes to pass.

Hello Friend, Usually its passed on from Mentor to Student. As they say, when the student is ready the teacher appears.

they will be ai's with souls. they will govern us as in the culture series. there will be no human capable of abuse - bioware lacks sufficient resources to compete.

That God allows is a ridiculous argument... in that case same can then be said for allowing killing, abuse and all sorts of other evils but that does not make it right or an act without any consequences.

What amazes me about your transhumanist kind is the fact that you are so intelligent when it comes to form and its mechanics yet completely ignorant to essence of matter and what drives it. Illusion galore. Remember, unbalanced intelligence leads to a dead end.

The BlueGene/Q processor is 359.5 square millimeters in area (18.96 millimeters per side in an actual square), and it has around 1.47 billion transistors. It is implemented in the 45 nanometer copper/SOI process that IBM used to make the Power7 chips. The cores used in the BlueGene/Q chip will all spin at 1.6GHz, with IBM varying the voltage as necessary around its 0.8 volt target to keep that clock speed rock solid and therefore be able to synchronize events across those 1.57 million cores.

By lowering both the clock speed and voltage from the Power A2 processor, IBM is giving up some performance per chip, but it is able to dramatically lower the active and leakage power of the processor. The 16-cores are designed to deliver 204.8 gigaflops at a power draw of 55 watts.

The compute cards and the optical interconnect modules have water blocks on them to keep them cool. The system is designed to use water at between 60 and 65 degrees Fahrenheit. The Sequoia system that Lawrence Livermore is getting will have 96 racks of BlueGene/Q nodes to reach its 20 petaflops performance level, and it is expected to consume around 6.6 megawatts.




My first computer = 25Mhz