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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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New findings on the Martian ionosphere released (It's the TEC, dammit!):

The highest electron densities are found at an altitude of about 140 km, where extreme ultraviolet light from the Sun ionises the neutral atmosphere. Electron densities above this layer generally decrease with increasing altitude. A secondary layer, which occurs at approximately 120 km, is produced by "soft" X-rays from the Sun and associated impacts with energetic electrons.

The composition and behaviour of the Martian ionosphere also differ over time and according to their geographical location. Atomic oxygen ions are most common at higher levels, while molecular oxygen species are more common at lower altitudes. These changes are caused by large variations in the solar wind, atmospheric dynamics and composition, and by the patchwork pattern of the crustal magnetic field.

The data show that the top of the ionosphere can drop below 250 km, but occasionally rise above 650 km. Graphs showing the vertical electron density of the ionosphere's main layer sometimes have a sharply pointed, flat or wavy shape, in contrast to its usual smooth, curved shape.

A broad increase in electron density is sometimes detected at 160-180 km, while a narrow layer of raised electron density is sometimes found in localised, but strongly magnetised regions, and an additional layer is occasionally present between the two main layers.

"These observations show that the Martian ionosphere is a lot more variable than I expected," said Paul Withers of Boston University, lead author of the two papers. "Many of these features have not been predicted and it will be interesting to see how theorists attempt to explain them."

More info here:
[link to www.marsdaily.com]

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SPACE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM(S) UPDATE:

Both of these SSS's were announced this week-

Lockheed Martin (who else?) Bids to Build USAF SSS-

Lockheed Martin has submitted its final contract proposal to build Space Fence, an advanced ground-based radar system that will improve the way the U.S. Air Force identifies and tracks orbital objects.

Space Fence will provide much-needed enhanced space situational awareness capabilities for the Air Force and allow the service to decommission the aging U.S.-based Air Force Space Surveillance System, originally installed in 1961.

"The original surveillance system wasn't designed to detect and track the hundreds of thousands of smaller, orbiting objects that are in space today, potentially threatening the International Space Station, future manned space flight missions and our nation's critical satellite assets," said Steve Bruce, vice president for space surveillance systems at Lockheed Martin's Mission Systems and Sensors business.

[link to www.spacemart.com]

DARPA's (Defense Advance Research Projects Agency) Space Surveillance Telescope Heads Down Under-

DARPA's ground-based Space Surveillance Telescope (SST) may soon head to Australia. An agreement reached this week with Australia's Department of Defense will allow DARPA to take the 180,000 lb. three-mirror Mersenne-Schmidt telescope to Australia to track and catalogues space debris and objects unique to the space above that region of the world that could threaten DoD satellites.

In the joint agreement, the U.S. and Australia have decided to work towards the establishment of the Space Surveillance Telescope (SST) on Australian soil.
SST was developed to detect and track previously unseen small objects at the deep space altitudes associated with geosynchronous orbits (roughly 22,000 miles high).

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

Let the Space Wars Begin!
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Woo-hoo, NOAA has finally issued numbers for our new active regions! Of course they got them backwards (cough, cough) and you'll notice 1617 no longer exists (ha, try to sneak one past me, eh?). The one to watch IMO is AR1619 (just below 1616) which is growing fast. The other new guy is 1618 which is further east and comprised of a 8 or 9 tiny spots. You'd think NOAA would have this down to a science by now, LOL. Sheeesh.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 323 Issued at 0030Z on 18 Nov 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 17 Nov
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 17/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1610 S23W76 263 0060 Cso 03 02 Beta
1611 N12W57 244 0120 Hsx 02 01 Alpha
1612 N09W43 230 0030 Cro 04 03 Beta
1613 S24W19 206 0100 Cso 06 10 Beta-Gamma
1614 N15W07 194 0160 Dai 10 31 Beta
1615 N08W21 208 0010 Bxo 05 04 Beta
1616 N19E23 164 0060 Cso 10 12 Beta
1618 N09E50 136 0020 Eai 13 01 Beta
1619 N10E16 171 0090 Dao 05 09 Beta

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Latest HMI Intensitygram:
[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

Latest HMI Magnetogram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

AR1619-looks like a dog's paw!
:1616&18:
:1618mag:
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New findings on the Martian ionosphere released (It's the TEC, dammit!):

The highest electron densities are found at an altitude of about 140 km, where extreme ultraviolet light from the Sun ionises the neutral atmosphere. Electron densities above this layer generally decrease with increasing altitude. A secondary layer, which occurs at approximately 120 km, is produced by "soft" X-rays from the Sun and associated impacts with energetic electrons.

The composition and behaviour of the Martian ionosphere also differ over time and according to their geographical location. Atomic oxygen ions are most common at higher levels, while molecular oxygen species are more common at lower altitudes. These changes are caused by large variations in the solar wind, atmospheric dynamics and composition, and by the patchwork pattern of the crustal magnetic field.

The data show that the top of the ionosphere can drop below 250 km, but occasionally rise above 650 km. Graphs showing the vertical electron density of the ionosphere's main layer sometimes have a sharply pointed, flat or wavy shape, in contrast to its usual smooth, curved shape.

A broad increase in electron density is sometimes detected at 160-180 km, while a narrow layer of raised electron density is sometimes found in localised, but strongly magnetised regions, and an additional layer is occasionally present between the two main layers.

"These observations show that the Martian ionosphere is a lot more variable than I expected," said Paul Withers of Boston University, lead author of the two papers. "Many of these features have not been predicted and it will be interesting to see how theorists attempt to explain them."

More info here:
[link to www.marsdaily.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Is'nt it incredible they did'nt know this already!?

This shit is,Fuckin' Ridiculous.
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Count how many CME's you can see [link to sdodata.oma.be] [link to sdodata.oma.be] .

Guten Nacht Solhoes : )

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Woo-hoo, NOAA has finally issued numbers for our new active regions! Of course they got them backwards (cough, cough) and you'll notice 1617 no longer exists (ha, try to sneak one past me, eh?). The one to watch IMO is AR1619 (just below 1616) which is growing fast. The other new guy is 1618 which is further east and comprised of a 8 or 9 tiny spots. You'd think NOAA would have this down to a science by now, LOL. Sheeesh.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 323 Issued at 0030Z on 18 Nov 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 17 Nov
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 17/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1610 S23W76 263 0060 Cso 03 02 Beta
1611 N12W57 244 0120 Hsx 02 01 Alpha
1612 N09W43 230 0030 Cro 04 03 Beta
1613 S24W19 206 0100 Cso 06 10 Beta-Gamma
1614 N15W07 194 0160 Dai 10 31 Beta
1615 N08W21 208 0010 Bxo 05 04 Beta
1616 N19E23 164 0060 Cso 10 12 Beta
1618 N09E50 136 0020 Eai 13 01 Beta
1619 N10E16 171 0090 Dao 05 09 Beta

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Latest HMI Intensitygram:
[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

Latest HMI Magnetogram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

AR1619-looks like a dog's paw!
:1616&18:
:1618mag:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


the images you posted kinda looks pretty like a flower
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It looks as if the sun is smiling at us!
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
[link to img210.imageshack.us]
wtf
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It looks as if the sun is smiling at us!
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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wtf
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afro
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It looks as if the sun is smiling at us!
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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wtf
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Are ya sure it's not an evil grin?

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sun dude is usually angry thats why he spit balls of fire at us
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hope that you are well.
drizzle here in my part of socal. now to go and walk my dog.
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Walkies are great when feeling down - My little Fella' Major really is a blessing and watching him run is just incredible!

He is a Lurcher,specifically Greyhound x Whippet x Bedlington Terrier...sorry,I'm gushing!

Is that your Matey in your Avatar!?
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Oh cool, I've got an Afghan, same genre as the greyhound and whippet
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It looks as if the sun is smiling at us!
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
[link to img210.imageshack.us]
wtf
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Are ya sure it's not an evil grin?

Angry Gigantor
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I personally like this one. chuckle

It's a mirrored SDO image from the time of the start of the coronal hole triangle thread.


3-12inv211

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It looks as if the sun is smiling at us!
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
[link to img210.imageshack.us]
wtf
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Are ya sure it's not an evil grin?

:Angry Gigantor:
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That's funny. I could probably start a pinned 30 page thread off that picture !
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:

edit...
if you take the original image

link [link to www.spaceweather.com]

and go here [link to pixlr.com]
you can see it too for your self
its a free online photo editor just double up the image and flip one image then you change the filter on the top one to see both at the same time there is your mirrored image
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This may be old news to some of you, but I just stumbled on this story from 1999....so it's new news to me.

MAY 1999-The Day the Solar Wind (almost) Disappeared!

From May 10-12, 1999, the solar wind that blows constantly from the Sun virtually disappeared in the most drastic and longest-lasting decrease ever observed. Dropping to a fraction of its normal density and to half its normal speed, the solar wind died down enough to allow physicists to observe particles flowing directly from the Sun's corona to Earth. This severe change in the solar wind also drastically changed the shape of Earth's magnetic field and produced a rare auroral display at the North Pole.

Starting late on May 10 and continuing through the early hours of May 12, NASA's ACE and Wind spacecraft each observed that the density of the solar wind dropped by more than 98%. Because of the decrease, energetic electrons from the Sun were able to flow to Earth in narrow beams, known as the strahl. Under normal conditions, electrons from the Sun are diluted, mixed, and redirected in interplanetary space and by Earth's magnetic field (the magnetosphere). But in May 1999, several satellites detected electrons arriving at Earth with properties similar to those of electrons in the Sun's corona, suggesting that they were a direct sample of particles from the Sun.

"This event provides a window to see the Sun's corona directly," said Dr. Keith Ogilvie, project scientist for NASA's Wind spacecraft and a space physicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. "The beams from the corona do not get broken up or scattered as they do under normal circumstances, and the temperature of the electrons is very similar to their original state on the Sun."

NASA News Release-12/1999 (they wait 6 months to release news!)

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Super-duper Magnetosphere Computer Simulation Model (1999-style):

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Video Sim of North Polar "Rain" (of electrons and x-rays):

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

More Multi-media stuff from press conference:

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Here's what ACE News had to say:

[link to www.srl.caltech.edu]

Original NASA Press Release:

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Enjoy and Good-night all.

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funny you are going back to 1999 =P

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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:
 Quoting: SeaPunk


Wow, SeaPunk, is that Lucifer the "light-bringer" or the Throne of JHVH? Either way, it's fear-inspiring; especially in the full resolution image.

Yikes! hiding
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:
 Quoting: SeaPunk


Wow, SeaPunk, is that Lucifer the "light-bringer" or the Throne of JHVH? Either way, it's fear-inspiring; especially in the full resolution image.

Yikes! hiding
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dunno to me looked like some singing dude and up top looks like a big face with eyes with horns?


the sun makes very unusual image when mirrored.. its art

its amazing the sun
sun
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ps im a big fan of this thread

thank you to all who post here
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Nice flare in progress from AR1615.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Udaipur Observatory H-alpha self-updating movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Nice flare in progress from AR1615.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Udaipur Observatory H-alpha self-updating movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


A respectable C 5.7, the strongest flare from this region so far. It's also Earth-facing at this time, so somebody keep an eye on it.

SDO/AIA 131 angstrom image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:

edit...
if you take the original image

link [link to www.spaceweather.com]

and go here [link to pixlr.com]
you can see it too for your self
its a free online photo editor just double up the image and flip one image then you change the filter on the top one to see both at the same time there is your mirrored image

 Quoting: SeaPunk


interesting..

yup that's what I'm talking about.

I'll have to admit that one is sort of strange and atypical from what I've seen imo. especially the portion you highlighted.

the rest of it seems fairly typical.

I'm happy you are interested. Many just kind of blow it off without giving it much thought.
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Nice flare in progress from AR1615.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Udaipur Observatory H-alpha self-updating movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


A respectable C 5.7, the strongest flare from this region so far. It's also Earth-facing at this time, so somebody keep an eye on it.

SDO/AIA 131 angstrom image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

We could use this one , nice catch. I'm hoping for a nice moderate CME,we'll see.
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If 1619 could develop it has an interesting signature,needs big polarities, that grouping needs to define but could grow into something to watch
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:
 Quoting: SeaPunk


Wow, SeaPunk, is that Lucifer the "light-bringer" or the Throne of JHVH? Either way, it's fear-inspiring; especially in the full resolution image.

Yikes! hiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


that one sort of resembles a puckered up anus which is why I thought it was sort of atypical. This picture from the March 9 M6 made me think of Lucifer etc.

1429-3-9-M6

I think it really helps to be acquainted with the bible before jumping to conclusions. But this was one of the mirrored pictures that got me thinking.

Many of the SDO images from 10-2011 to 3-2012 are amazing even without the special effects.
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:

edit...
if you take the original image

link [link to www.spaceweather.com]

and go here [link to pixlr.com]
you can see it too for your self
its a free online photo editor just double up the image and flip one image then you change the filter on the top one to see both at the same time there is your mirrored image

 Quoting: SeaPunk


Wow, very interesting.....
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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hi RTS REDUX I like your mirrored images im very inspired by your past images

I took the recent image posted at spaceweather.com and mirrored it [link to www.spaceweather.com]

here is the image [link to s14.postimage.org]

:littlesunguy2222:

edit...
if you take the original image

link [link to www.spaceweather.com]

and go here [link to pixlr.com]
you can see it too for your self
its a free online photo editor just double up the image and flip one image then you change the filter on the top one to see both at the same time there is your mirrored image

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WOAH. That is incredible....
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I have just received info via e-mails from some of my contacts, and they stated that large solar flares above X-20 will start to flare after the date of December 13 2012. They told me that at least three flares above X-20 will happen before January 1 2013. I hope they are wrong..... uhohuhohuhoh
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I have just received info via e-mails from some of my contacts, and they stated that large solar flares above X-20 will start to flare after the date of December 13 2012. They told me that at least three flares above X-20 will happen before January 1 2013. I hope they are wrong..... uhohuhohuhoh
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so you've heard from AA? ura

how is the old coot doing?

I haven't heard much from him lately

chuckle
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I have just received info via e-mails from some of my contacts, and they stated that large solar flares above X-20 will start to flare after the date of December 13 2012. They told me that at least three flares above X-20 will happen before January 1 2013. I hope they are wrong..... uhohuhohuhoh
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can you email them back tell them that you don't want a million bucks deposited from the Nigerian government in your bank account?





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