Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? | |
DUCM900 User ID: 32508414 Italy 01/18/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] Quoting: Forgotten [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? So, you want to follow the Nice diversion tactic. You can not show a website. I have asked multiple people. Checked multiple sites, and programs. Sure, I am sheep. I have overwhelming evidence the answer is 9. You have no evidence. Please stop with the trolling tactics. Is that below no evidence? 6/2(1+2) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)²) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)¹+(2)¹) = x . |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Patrick Bateman Jesus, put it in a calc. You will get both depending on which you are using. Why would you trust the calc programmer? I am not depending on that. I have done the math problem. Checked it with each variable possible. The answer is 9. I want someone with an answer of 1 to show me a website to go along with his answer. If I would of tried 1 website, I would say your argument has merit. But I have tried over 10+ math websites, excel, and 2 calculators. Pretty overwhelming evidence. I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] Quoting: Forgotten [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? So, you want to follow the Nice diversion tactic. You can not show a website. I have asked multiple people. Checked multiple sites, and programs. Sure, I am sheep. I have overwhelming evidence the answer is 9. You have no evidence. Please stop with the trolling tactics. Is that below no evidence? 6/2(1+2) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)²) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)¹+(2)¹) = x . Showing incorrect math is not evidence. Find any outside source that corraborates your answer. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not depending on that. I have done the math problem. Checked it with each variable possible. The answer is 9. I want someone with an answer of 1 to show me a website to go along with his answer. If I would of tried 1 website, I would say your argument has merit. But I have tried over 10+ math websites, excel, and 2 calculators. Pretty overwhelming evidence. I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... Why calcs give both. [link to www.electro-tech-online.com] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Forgotten I am not depending on that. I have done the math problem. Checked it with each variable possible. The answer is 9. I want someone with an answer of 1 to show me a website to go along with his answer. If I would of tried 1 website, I would say your argument has merit. But I have tried over 10+ math websites, excel, and 2 calculators. Pretty overwhelming evidence. I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... Why calcs give both. [link to www.electro-tech-online.com] [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? Edit: Did you just post a duplicate of GLP thread. A thread with people debating is just like this thread. Not evidence. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 09:24 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not depending on that. I have done the math problem. Checked it with each variable possible. The answer is 9. I want someone with an answer of 1 to show me a website to go along with his answer. If I would of tried 1 website, I would say your argument has merit. But I have tried over 10+ math websites, excel, and 2 calculators. Pretty overwhelming evidence. I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... There are millions of "websites" that say both, that does not make either correct or incorrect. |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Patrick Bateman I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... Why calcs give both. [link to www.electro-tech-online.com] [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? What if I make a smilie? lol |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Forgotten I am not depending on that. I have done the math problem. Checked it with each variable possible. The answer is 9. I want someone with an answer of 1 to show me a website to go along with his answer. If I would of tried 1 website, I would say your argument has merit. But I have tried over 10+ math websites, excel, and 2 calculators. Pretty overwhelming evidence. I'm calling bs, just did it on 2 reg sci calcs and got 1. If you use graphing you will get 9 because of the programming. But then you could say the same about the scientific, so, which is correct? Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... There are millions of "websites" that say both, that does not make either correct or incorrect. Millions??? Damn, strange. I cant find 1 out of a Million showing the answer as 1. My google skills must suck. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Forgotten Then you should be able to find a website that will go along with your "calculator". I will wait here....... Why calcs give both. [link to www.electro-tech-online.com] [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? What if I make a smilie? lol You have Pat, several times today. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 09:26 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? What if I make a smilie? lol You have Pat, several time today. Lol, I meant pic of calc, but touche. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32508414 Italy 01/18/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats incorrect? teach me. 6/2(1+2) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)²) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)¹+(2)¹) = x - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/18/2013 09:29 AM |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Forgotten [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? What if I make a smilie? lol You have Pat, several time today. Lol, I meant pic of calc, but touche. That may work, but I always worry about human error with that sort of thing. Changing settings on calculator, wrong format etc. With a website, I can tell if the equation was input exactly as the OP put it. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats incorrect? teach me. Quoting: DUCM900 6/2(1+2) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)²) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)¹+(2)¹) = x - [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] the 6/2 would need distributed into the (2+1) if you want to do distribution. As seen on every math website I have found. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 09:34 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
DUCM900 User ID: 32508414 Italy 01/18/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats incorrect? teach me. Quoting: DUCM900 6/2(1+2) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)²) = x --or-->> 6/((2)¹+(2)¹+(2)¹) = x - [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calculators don't work with this equation, because of the logic involved. Quoting: Bent Calculate the numerator, calculate the denominator, then divide. I can see it both ways though. This is a perfect example of the saying, it is and it is not. No, not really. [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calculators don't work with this equation, because of the logic involved. Quoting: Bent Calculate the numerator, calculate the denominator, then divide. I can see it both ways though. This is a perfect example of the saying, it is and it is not. Finally Havent been able to find one. Have you? I know you googled and tried though. Can you admit that you tried to find a website stating 1? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calculators don't work with this equation, because of the logic involved. Quoting: Bent Calculate the numerator, calculate the denominator, then divide. I can see it both ways though. This is a perfect example of the saying, it is and it is not. Finally Havent been able to find one. Have you? I know you googled and tried though. Can you admit that you tried to find a website stating 1? Like I said, I have found tons of "websites" that does not mean much though. I did try a few calcs, 3 to be exact. Does that make any of what I have already said any less true? No, and I have posted why more than once. |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calculators don't work with this equation, because of the logic involved. Quoting: Bent Calculate the numerator, calculate the denominator, then divide. I can see it both ways though. This is a perfect example of the saying, it is and it is not. Finally Havent been able to find one. Have you? I know you googled and tried though. Can you admit that you tried to find a website stating 1? I just copy and pasted the equation into google search... Guess what answer it gave me... 9! Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 09:43 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calculators don't work with this equation, because of the logic involved. Quoting: Bent Calculate the numerator, calculate the denominator, then divide. I can see it both ways though. This is a perfect example of the saying, it is and it is not. Finally Havent been able to find one. Have you? I know you googled and tried though. Can you admit that you tried to find a website stating 1? I just copy and pasted the equation into google search... Guess what answer it gave me... 9! [link to www.google.com (secure)] And guess what, look into the programming of google calc. [link to www.electro-tech-online.com] lol wrong link Last Edited by Patrick Bateman on 01/18/2013 09:45 AM |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When using the distributive property it applies to the 6/2, not just the 2. It should actually be: 6/2(1+2) 3(1+2) (simplified) 3+6 (distributive property applied) 9 (answer) When using the distributive property, the "parenthesis first" rule doesn't apply. One of the points of the distributive property is that there is generally something preventing you from doing the parenthesis's first (in more complex problems), and as such, is a "work around" to the "parenthesis first" rule. Hence why you simplify the outside, then apply the property. Taken from... [link to community.wolframalpha.com] Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with your evaluation has nothing to do with the distributive law. You have the order of operations incorrect; you're not accounting properly for multiplication's associativity. As written, you have: 6/2*(1+2). (You left the multiplication out in your example, but I think you'll agree it's the same thing.) When deciding how to fully parenthesize this expression, you must take into account that division and multiplication are left-associative. That means: 6/2*(1+2) = (6/2)*(1+2) NOT 6/(2*(1+2)) Left-associative operators work like this: a1*a2*a3*...*aN = (((a1*a2)*a3)*...)*aN Since multiplication and division are left-associative, that means when you mix them, you get: a1/a2*a3/...*aN = (((a1/a2)*a3)/...)*aN The confusion caused by your example is that the importance of the left-associativity of the division operator is obscured by the fact that you left the multiplication operator implied. Once you make it explicit and fully parenthesize the expression according to the precedence and associativity of the operators involved, the confusion lifts. (Incidentally, if you're interested in an example of a right-associative operator and one of the neatest implications of an operator with this property, see currying.) Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot possibly post something I have not already read. It still maintains the expression is poorly stated and can be interpreted more than one way, resulting in more than one answer. Quoting: Patrick Bateman Fair enough. I agree the equation was meant to confuse people. But it does not change the fact that the answer is 9. Have you been able to find any website that shows 1 yet? Still waiting for that. Can you admit you tried to find one? Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 09:53 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Patrick Bateman User ID: 32018985 United States 01/18/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot possibly post something I have not already read. It still maintains the expression is poorly stated and can be interpreted more than one way, resulting in more than one answer. Quoting: Patrick Bateman Fair enough. I agree the equation was meant to confuse people. But it does not change the fact that the answer is 9. Have you been able to find any website that shows 1 yet? Still waiting for that. Can you admit you tried to find one? Google it, there are tons of websites. Online calcs? I'll admit it is more difficult to find now than it was a year ago. Like I said, I checked 3 and quit because all of the scientific ones used to say 1 and graphing wold say 9. I did this all over a year ago. So online ones now apparently have been re-programmed, hand held, the ones I have that are several years old at least, not so much. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32057798 Canada 01/18/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] Someone show me a math website that comes up with 1. Anyone!!!!! Please? that is the problem. Those programs were not designed to solve problems like this. Ask wolfram what 6/2n = Then when you get that answer, substitute 2+1 in for, and complete it yourself. |
Forgotten User ID: 1448291 United States 01/18/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] Someone show me a math website that comes up with 1. Anyone!!!!! Please? that is the problem. Those programs were not designed to solve problems like this. Ask wolfram what 6/2n = Then when you get that answer, substitute 2+1 in for, and complete it yourself. Summary, I cant find one either. It looks like the website shown below have no problem coming up with the answer. Even shows its work. Along with 10+ other websites, and excel, etc. No, not really. [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Anyone? Cant find one... can you? Surely there must be one website that can do it "correctly" I will wait here for you to post it. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/18/2013 04:35 PM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |