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New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?

 
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Lol...a conspiracy within a conspiracy!!!

How terrible it must be for you to live in such an evil world...

It's not like any other missions have failed....

And whenever they do fail...it must be part of some plot...

You are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050

Third time's the charm . .  . incompetence personified . . . seems beyond even the government to use the same failed company . . . unless you have a reason to make all climate analysis systems fall into the ocean . . . LoL!!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]



Both the rocket and the satellite were built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va. . . . and they still have the contract for the next launch . . . !!!!!

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[link to www.spacenews.com]

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[link to www.spacenews.com]

 
Fri, 4 March, 2011
Taurus Rocket Fairing Glitch Dooms NASA’s Glory Mission
By Turner Brinton


NASA's Glory climate-monitoring satellite
Enlarge Image
Updated at 1:13pm

WASHINGTON — NASA’s $424 million Glory climate observation satellite was lost in a March 4 launch attempt from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., after the shroud designed to protect the spacecraft during its climb to orbit atop a Taurus XL rocket failed to separate, agency officials said.

The Taurus XL, built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va., was making its return to flight two years after a similar fairing problem destroyed NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) satellite. After replacing the fairing-separation mechanism thought to be the culprit in the OCO launch failure, the government-industry team believed the Glory launch had “an acceptable level of risk,” Rich Straka, Orbital’s deputy general manager for launch operations, said during a March 4 press conference at Vandenberg.


After an extensive investigation of the OCO launch failure, a decision was made to replace the Taurus XL’s fairing-separation mechanism, a combustion system designed to create hot gas that pushes the pistons that eject the two halves of the nose cone, said Ron Grabe, the executive vice president and general manager for Orbital’s launch systems group. It was replaced by a system that uses a bottle of cold, pressurized nitrogen to drive the pistons, he said. The cold gas system was successfully used in all three launches of the Orbital-built Minotaur 4 rocket last year, he said.


Meanwhile, Orbital is building an OCO replacement for NASA and in June was awarded a $70 million contract to launch the satellite on a Taurus XL. Depending on the findings of Glory’s Mishap Investigation Board, the agency may have to change that plan, said Michael Luther, deputy associate administrator for programs in NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.
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So?
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Lol...a conspiracy within a conspiracy!!!

How terrible it must be for you to live in such an evil world...

It's not like any other missions have failed....

And whenever they do fail...it must be part of some plot...

You are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050

Third time's the charm . .  . incompetence personified . . . seems beyond even the government to use the same failed company . . . unless you have a reason to make all climate analysis systems fall into the ocean . . . LoL!!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]



Both the rocket and the satellite were built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va. . . . and they still have the contract for the next launch . . . !!!!!

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[link to www.spacenews.com]

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Fri, 4 March, 2011
Taurus Rocket Fairing Glitch Dooms NASA’s Glory Mission
By Turner Brinton


NASA's Glory climate-monitoring satellite
Enlarge Image
Updated at 1:13pm

WASHINGTON — NASA’s $424 million Glory climate observation satellite was lost in a March 4 launch attempt from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., after the shroud designed to protect the spacecraft during its climb to orbit atop a Taurus XL rocket failed to separate, agency officials said.

The Taurus XL, built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va., was making its return to flight two years after a similar fairing problem destroyed NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) satellite. After replacing the fairing-separation mechanism thought to be the culprit in the OCO launch failure, the government-industry team believed the Glory launch had “an acceptable level of risk,” Rich Straka, Orbital’s deputy general manager for launch operations, said during a March 4 press conference at Vandenberg.


After an extensive investigation of the OCO launch failure, a decision was made to replace the Taurus XL’s fairing-separation mechanism, a combustion system designed to create hot gas that pushes the pistons that eject the two halves of the nose cone, said Ron Grabe, the executive vice president and general manager for Orbital’s launch systems group. It was replaced by a system that uses a bottle of cold, pressurized nitrogen to drive the pistons, he said. The cold gas system was successfully used in all three launches of the Orbital-built Minotaur 4 rocket last year, he said.


Meanwhile, Orbital is building an OCO replacement for NASA and in June was awarded a $70 million contract to launch the satellite on a Taurus XL. Depending on the findings of Glory’s Mishap Investigation Board, the agency may have to change that plan, said Michael Luther, deputy associate administrator for programs in NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.
 Quoting: George B



So?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Just a coincidence . . . if you choose to believe there is no connection . . .
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Lol...a conspiracy within a conspiracy!!!

How terrible it must be for you to live in such an evil world...

It's not like any other missions have failed....

And whenever they do fail...it must be part of some plot...

You are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050

Third time's the charm . .  . incompetence personified . . . seems beyond even the government to use the same failed company . . . unless you have a reason to make all climate analysis systems fall into the ocean . . . LoL!!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]



Both the rocket and the satellite were built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va. . . . and they still have the contract for the next launch . . . !!!!!

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[link to www.spacenews.com]

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[link to www.spacenews.com]

 
Fri, 4 March, 2011
Taurus Rocket Fairing Glitch Dooms NASA’s Glory Mission
By Turner Brinton


NASA's Glory climate-monitoring satellite
Enlarge Image
Updated at 1:13pm

WASHINGTON — NASA’s $424 million Glory climate observation satellite was lost in a March 4 launch attempt from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., after the shroud designed to protect the spacecraft during its climb to orbit atop a Taurus XL rocket failed to separate, agency officials said.

The Taurus XL, built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va., was making its return to flight two years after a similar fairing problem destroyed NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) satellite. After replacing the fairing-separation mechanism thought to be the culprit in the OCO launch failure, the government-industry team believed the Glory launch had “an acceptable level of risk,” Rich Straka, Orbital’s deputy general manager for launch operations, said during a March 4 press conference at Vandenberg.


After an extensive investigation of the OCO launch failure, a decision was made to replace the Taurus XL’s fairing-separation mechanism, a combustion system designed to create hot gas that pushes the pistons that eject the two halves of the nose cone, said Ron Grabe, the executive vice president and general manager for Orbital’s launch systems group. It was replaced by a system that uses a bottle of cold, pressurized nitrogen to drive the pistons, he said. The cold gas system was successfully used in all three launches of the Orbital-built Minotaur 4 rocket last year, he said.


Meanwhile, Orbital is building an OCO replacement for NASA and in June was awarded a $70 million contract to launch the satellite on a Taurus XL. Depending on the findings of Glory’s Mishap Investigation Board, the agency may have to change that plan, said Michael Luther, deputy associate administrator for programs in NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.
 Quoting: George B



So?
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Just a coincidence . . . if you choose to believe there is no connection . . .
 Quoting: George B


I see no reason to believe otherwise.
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Here are some more reasons . . .


Some interesting evidence of the low probability of launch failures of both of the  rockets and the satellites that were built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va. . . . and they still have the contract for the next launch . . . !!!!!
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Second Quarter 2009 Launch Report 1

The Second Quarter 2009 Quarterly Launch Report features launch results from the first quarter of 2009
( January - March 2009)  

Figure 13 shows orbital and commercial suborbital launch successes vs. failures for the period from January 2009 to March 2009. 

Partially-successful orbital launch events are those where the launch vehicle fails to deploy its payload to the appropriate orbit, but the payload is able to reach a useable orbit via its own propulsion systems. Cases in which the payload does not reach a useable orbit or would use all of its fuel to do so are considered 
failures.

-----The Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) is a NASA satellite mission intended to provide ... The original spacecraft was lost in a launch failure on February 24, 2009, when the payload ...

Figure 13: First Quarter 2009 Launch Successes vs.
Failures
Failure 6% (1)
Success 94% (15)
Total = 16

[link to www.faa.gov]

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[link to www.faa.gov]


Launch Successes vs. Failures
Figure 9: Launch Successes vs. Failures: April 2011 - September 2011
Failure 7% (3)
Success 93% (42)

 
-----The Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) is a NASA satellite mission intended to provide ... The original spacecraft was lost in a launch failure on February 24, 2009, when the payload ...

Semi-Annual Launch Report Second Half of Fiscal  Year 2011

Figure 9 shows orbital launch successes and failures from April 2011 through September 2011. 

From April 2011 to September 2011 there were three launch failures.  From September 2010 to April 2011 there were four launch failures.  

Total = 45 launches 

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Semi-Annual Launch Report: First Half of 2010

[link to www.faa.gov]

Figure 9: Launch Successes vs. Failures: October 2009 - March 2010
Failure 0% (0)
Total = 33
Success 100% (33)

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Semi-Annual Launch Report: First Half of 2010

[link to www.faa.gov]

Figure 9: Launch Successes vs. Failures: October 2009 - March 2010

Total 33
no failures
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Lol...a conspiracy within a conspiracy!!!

How terrible it must be for you to live in such an evil world...

It's not like any other missions have failed....

And whenever they do fail...it must be part of some plot...

You are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050

Third time's the charm . .  . incompetence personified . . . seems beyond even the government to use the same failed company . . . unless you have a reason to make all climate analysis systems fall into the ocean . . . LoL!!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]



Both the rocket and the satellite were built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va. . . . and they still have the contract for the next launch . . . !!!!!

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[link to www.spacenews.com]

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[link to www.spacenews.com]

 
Fri, 4 March, 2011
Taurus Rocket Fairing Glitch Dooms NASA’s Glory Mission
By Turner Brinton


NASA's Glory climate-monitoring satellite
Enlarge Image
Updated at 1:13pm

WASHINGTON — NASA’s $424 million Glory climate observation satellite was lost in a March 4 launch attempt from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., after the shroud designed to protect the spacecraft during its climb to orbit atop a Taurus XL rocket failed to separate, agency officials said.

The Taurus XL, built by Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va., was making its return to flight two years after a similar fairing problem destroyed NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) satellite. After replacing the fairing-separation mechanism thought to be the culprit in the OCO launch failure, the government-industry team believed the Glory launch had “an acceptable level of risk,” Rich Straka, Orbital’s deputy general manager for launch operations, said during a March 4 press conference at Vandenberg.


After an extensive investigation of the OCO launch failure, a decision was made to replace the Taurus XL’s fairing-separation mechanism, a combustion system designed to create hot gas that pushes the pistons that eject the two halves of the nose cone, said Ron Grabe, the executive vice president and general manager for Orbital’s launch systems group. It was replaced by a system that uses a bottle of cold, pressurized nitrogen to drive the pistons, he said. The cold gas system was successfully used in all three launches of the Orbital-built Minotaur 4 rocket last year, he said.


Meanwhile, Orbital is building an OCO replacement for NASA and in June was awarded a $70 million contract to launch the satellite on a Taurus XL. Depending on the findings of Glory’s Mishap Investigation Board, the agency may have to change that plan, said Michael Luther, deputy associate administrator for programs in NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.
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I agree with the 3rd times a charm theory.
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Thanks Vt . . .!!! Hope all is well . . . Good Night. . . hf
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My guess . . . it is a planet . . . possibly Venus . . . the morning star . . . when a digital camera focuses at the extreme end of its capability . . . algorithms take over and fill in details that are really not there. . . when you see a pattern over an entire object good chance that is what has happened . . . possibly JPEG compression artifacts . . .my guess. . .
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Thanks for all your votes.. . !!!!

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POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .   36.7% (946)
No, I do not . . .   23.4% (603)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas   18.1% (466)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.   10.3% (265)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines   6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.   5.5% (143)
Blank (View Results) (465)

Non-Blank Votes: 2578
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New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
1. No, I do not . . .
2. Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.
3. Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .
4. Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.
5. Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines
6. Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas


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1) The decade of 1990s had a dip in stratospheric aerosols.  This dip (see below) was caused  by the clearing of the atmosphere in the 90s.

"Hofmann and coworkers (12–14) argued that the “background” stratospheric aerosol layer increased by 5- 9%/year through the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, and again at about 5-7% in the 2000s. However, in the 1990s stratospheric aerosols decreased by similar magnitudes. "
[link to junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com]


2) Within the same article cited above are definitive statements that stratospheric particulate (aerosols) increased during the late  1990s - 2000s effectively reversing the negative trend in the early 1990s using three different methods . . . 


"Multiple instruments have been used at Mauna Loa for estimating or measuring total aerosol optical depth and atmospheric transmission. Here we present observations taken there on the cleanest days, when much of the aerosol burden likely resides in the stratosphere. Figure 2 shows three independent data records that all indicate increases in aerosol optical depth (or, equivalently, decreases in transmission) at Mauna Loa from the late 1990s to the late 2000s: from ground-based transmission data using the pyrheliometer ratioing methodology (20, 21), a Precision Filter Radiometer [1999 to date (22)], and a stratospheric lidar (14). Figure 2 compares these data to the mean tropical and global stratospheric aerosol optical depths from combined satellite observations by the Stratospheric Aerosol and Gas Experiment (SAGE) II (1990–2005), Global Ozone Monitoring by Occultation of Stars (GOMOS, 2002-2009) and the CALIPSO lidar (2006–2010), see (16, 17, 23–25); the overlapping periods of the different satellite instruments allow accurate quantification of the trends over time (17). The four independent data sets from satellite, lidar, total transmission, and aerosol optical depth as shown in Fig. 2 jointly support the view that the “background” stratospheric aerosol layer has changed significantly over about the past decade [see (25)]."

[link to junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com]

[link to data.giss.nasa.gov] [/EX]

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14. D. J. Hofmann, J. Barnes, M. O’Neill, M. Trudeau, R.Neely, Geophys. Res. Lett. 36, L15808,


GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 36, L15808, 5 PP., 2009
doi:10.1029/2009GL039008

Increase in background stratospheric aerosol observed with lidar at Mauna Loa Observatory and Boulder, Colorado

David Hofmann
Earth System Research Laboratory, NOAA, Boulder, Colorado, USA

[link to www.agu.org]

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1) The decade of 1990s had a dip in stratospheric aerosols.  This dip (see below) was caused  by the clearing of the atmosphere in the 90s.

"Hofmann and coworkers (12–14) argued that the “background” stratospheric aerosol layer increased by 5- 9%/year through the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, and again at about 5-7% in the 2000s. However, in the 1990s stratospheric aerosols decreased by similar magnitudes. "
[link to junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com]


2) Within the same article cited above are definitive statements that stratospheric particulate (aerosols) increased during the late  1990s - 2000s effectively reversing the negative trend in the early 1990s using three different methods . . . 


"Multiple instruments have been used at Mauna Loa for estimating or measuring total aerosol optical depth and atmospheric transmission. Here we present observations taken there on the cleanest days, when much of the aerosol burden likely resides in the stratosphere. Figure 2 shows three independent data records that all indicate increases in aerosol optical depth (or, equivalently, decreases in transmission) at Mauna Loa from the late 1990s to the late 2000s: from ground-based transmission data using the pyrheliometer ratioing methodology (20, 21), a Precision Filter Radiometer [1999 to date (22)], and a stratospheric lidar (14). Figure 2 compares these data to the mean tropical and global stratospheric aerosol optical depths from combined satellite observations by the Stratospheric Aerosol and Gas Experiment (SAGE) II (1990–2005), Global Ozone Monitoring by Occultation of Stars (GOMOS, 2002-2009) and the CALIPSO lidar (2006–2010), see (16, 17, 23–25); the overlapping periods of the different satellite instruments allow accurate quantification of the trends over time (17). The four independent data sets from satellite, lidar, total transmission, and aerosol optical depth as shown in Fig. 2 jointly support the view that the “background” stratospheric aerosol layer has changed significantly over about the past decade [see (25)]."

[link to junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com]

[link to data.giss.nasa.gov] [/EX]

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14. D. J. Hofmann, J. Barnes, M. O’Neill, M. Trudeau, R.Neely, Geophys. Res. Lett. 36, L15808,


GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 36, L15808, 5 PP., 2009
doi:10.1029/2009GL039008

Increase in background stratospheric aerosol observed with lidar at Mauna Loa Observatory and Boulder, Colorado

David Hofmann
Earth System Research Laboratory, NOAA, Boulder, Colorado, USA

[link to www.agu.org]

coffee4
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Hey, Where is your buddy Hammer these days?!

Has he "bugged out" to his secret underground cave where he sits in a puddle of his own urine...while rocking back and forth...sucking his thumb...waiting for the end?

Pathetic...
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Im here..And ready..I suggest you get ready..Not much time left..
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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Thanks Hammer hf
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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Thanks Hammer hf
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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Nice yo see you agin hammer!!!! ohyeahAre you in upstate NY???coffee4
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POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .   36.7% (946)
No, I do not . . .   23.4% (603)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas   18.1% (466)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.   10.3% (265)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines   6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.   5.5% (143)
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Non-Blank Votes: 2578
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POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .   36.7% (952)
No, I do not . . .   23.4% (606)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas   18.1% (469)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.   10.3% (266)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines   6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.   5.5% (143)
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
 Quoting: The Hammer


Nice yo see you agin hammer!!!! ohyeahAre you in upstate NY???coffee4
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Yes George..Western NY..Why they call this area Upstate is beyond me,but they do..Listen up George,the whole world is in chaos..They have stopped Chemtrailing this area,Not even one episode in 6 months!..The purpose of Chemtrails is to control the weather,by dimming the Sun..They know what they are doing George..There is a direct correlation of this being the hottest,driest Summer and the absence of Chemtrails..
The Earth is warming real fast and the PTB know it,I hate to say this but maybe Chemtrailing was not a bad idea,however the stuff they use are poisons!!..For some reason they have stopped,and by doing so,this has led to severe droughts and crop failures..Is this what they want??..To create a food shortage??..Remember,many Country's depend on our food exports,if they cant get it there will be food riots overseas..Not good..
That coupled with the explosive situation in the mid-east,spells disaster!..
Keep your eyes to the sky,there are more near earth objects heading this way..There is one that has the Earth as its bulls eye..The scenario is being played out,just as I was told..Stay safe and be prepared..
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Re: New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
 Quoting: The Hammer


Nice yo see you agin hammer!!!! ohyeahAre you in upstate NY???coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Yes George..Western NY..Why they call this area Upstate is beyond me,but they do..Listen up George,the whole world is in chaos..They have stopped Chemtrailing this area,Not even one episode in 6 months!..The purpose of Chemtrails is to control the weather,by dimming the Sun..They know what they are doing George..There is a direct correlation of this being the hottest,driest Summer and the absence of Chemtrails..
The Earth is warming real fast and the PTB know it,I hate to say this but maybe Chemtrailing was not a bad idea,however the stuff they use are poisons!!..For some reason they have stopped,and by doing so,this has led to severe droughts and crop failures..Is this what they want??..To create a food shortage??..Remember,many Country's depend on our food exports,if they cant get it there will be food riots overseas..Not good..
That coupled with the explosive situation in the mid-east,spells disaster!..
Keep your eyes to the sky,there are more near earth objects heading this way..There is one that has the Earth as its bulls eye..The scenario is being played out,just as I was told..Stay safe and be prepared..
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Have you had any more contacts with your friends from the Navy??peace
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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No Chemtrails here for 6 months George!!..Nothing!!..Blue skies,no rain and the hottest summer ever!!..The crops have failed!!..They have stopped the global dimming!!..All attention is being concentrated on the Middle East..Keep watch..
Plenty of near earth objects being spotted every day,with only a few days notice as they approach and graze this Planet..There are many more to come,most unknown yet,but there are some the government knows about and are not saying..Earth is a bulls eye!!..It is one year,not much time left!!..Chemtrails are real George,they have managed to control the weather,but they can not control whats about to happen!!..Stay safe George..Heed my warnings..My contacts are dead on!!..
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Nice yo see you agin hammer!!!! ohyeahAre you in upstate NY???coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Yes George..Western NY..Why they call this area Upstate is beyond me,but they do..Listen up George,the whole world is in chaos..They have stopped Chemtrailing this area,Not even one episode in 6 months!..The purpose of Chemtrails is to control the weather,by dimming the Sun..They know what they are doing George..There is a direct correlation of this being the hottest,driest Summer and the absence of Chemtrails..
The Earth is warming real fast and the PTB know it,I hate to say this but maybe Chemtrailing was not a bad idea,however the stuff they use are poisons!!..For some reason they have stopped,and by doing so,this has led to severe droughts and crop failures..Is this what they want??..To create a food shortage??..Remember,many Country's depend on our food exports,if they cant get it there will be food riots overseas..Not good..
That coupled with the explosive situation in the mid-east,spells disaster!..
Keep your eyes to the sky,there are more near earth objects heading this way..There is one that has the Earth as its bulls eye..The scenario is being played out,just as I was told..Stay safe and be prepared..
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I came upon this study and find it interesting . . . the research indicates that Cirrus Cloud reductions (through a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding) could result in slowing global warming and that commercial aviation could be the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish such geoengineering without much of the side effects of sulfur injection for example . . . the amount of cloud seeding material would be small in comparison to the sulfur injected into the stratosphere . . . coffee4



Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming


David L Mitchell and WilliamFinnegan
Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV89512-1095, USA
E-mail: [email protected]
Received 1 April 2009
Accepted 12 August 2009
Published 30 October 2009




Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has.


[link to iopscience.iop.org]

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Re: New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
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POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .   36.7% (946)
No, I do not . . .   23.4% (603)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas   18.1% (466)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.   10.3% (265)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines   6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.   5.5% (143)
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Non-Blank Votes: 2578
 Quoting: George B


POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . .   36.7% (952)
No, I do not . . .   23.4% (606)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas   18.1% (469)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc.   10.3% (266)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines   6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc.   5.5% (143)
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Non-Blank Votes: 2591

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POLL: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Yes, and they are all over the sky . . . 36.8% (957)
No, I do not . . . 23.4% (608)
Yes, the TPTB is trying to crowd control, and other agendas 18.1% (471)
Yes, they include cloud seeding, Chaff, insecticides, etc. 10.3% (267)
Yes, but most are persistent trails from High Efficiency Jet Engines 6.0% (155)
Yes, but they are rare . . . experimental geo-engineering, etc. 5.5% (143)
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Non-Blank Votes: 2601
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I came upon this study and find it interesting . . . the research indicates that Cirrus Cloud reductions (through a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding) could result in slowing global warming and that commercial aviation could be the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish such geoengineering without much of the side effects of sulfur injection for example . . . the amount of cloud seeding material would be small in comparison to the sulfur injected into the stratosphere . . . coffee4



Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming


David L Mitchell and WilliamFinnegan
Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV89512-1095, USA
E-mail: [email protected]
Received 1 April 2009
Accepted 12 August 2009
Published 30 October 2009




Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has.


[link to iopscience.iop.org]
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Thanks for the new post, George. Glad to see you back. The spraying of chem trails is getting worse in my area. Going out of town tomorrow and sure that it's going to be just as bad where I'm headed. Kinda comparing the locations now.

Would like to understand more about the affects on the acidification of the oceans. I need a re read.

Take care. hf
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I came upon this study and find it interesting . . . the research indicates that Cirrus Cloud reductions (through a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding) could result in slowing global warming and that commercial aviation could be the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish such geoengineering without much of the side effects of sulfur injection for example . . . the amount of cloud seeding material would be small in comparison to the sulfur injected into the stratosphere . . . coffee4



Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming


David L Mitchell and WilliamFinnegan
Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV89512-1095, USA
E-mail: [email protected]
Received 1 April 2009
Accepted 12 August 2009
Published 30 October 2009




Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has.


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Thanks for the new post, George. Glad to see you back. The spraying of chem trails is getting worse in my area. Going out of town tomorrow and sure that it's going to be just as bad where I'm headed. Kinda comparing the locations now.

Would like to understand more about the affects on the acidification of the oceans. I need a re read.

Take care. hf
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Take care . . . I need to understand the acidification issue as well . . .coffee4
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Ocean acidification is the name given to the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.[1] About 30-40% of the carbon dioxide released by humans into the atmosphere dissolves into the oceans, rivers and lakes [2][3]. To maintain chemical equilibrium, some of it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid. Some of these extra carbonic acid molecules split up to give a carbonate ion and two hydrogen ions, thus increasing the ocean’s "acidity" (H+ ion concentration). This increasing acidity is thought to have a range of direct undesirable consequences such as depressing metabolic rates in jumbo squid[4] and depressing the immune responses of blue mussels[5]. (These chemical reactions also happen in the atmosphere, and as about 20% of anthropogenic CO2 emissions are absorbed by the terrestrial biosphere[3], also in the ground soils between absorbed CO2 and soil moisture. Thus anthropogenic CO2 emissions to the atmosphere can increase the acidity of land, sea and air.)

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Ocean acidification is the name given to the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.[1] About 30-40% of the carbon dioxide released by humans into the atmosphere dissolves into the oceans, rivers and lakes [2][3]. To maintain chemical equilibrium, some of it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid. Some of these extra carbonic acid molecules split up to give a carbonate ion and two hydrogen ions, thus increasing the ocean’s "acidity" (H+ ion concentration). This increasing acidity is thought to have a range of direct undesirable consequences such as depressing metabolic rates in jumbo squid[4] and depressing the immune responses of blue mussels[5]. (These chemical reactions also happen in the atmosphere, and as about 20% of anthropogenic CO2 emissions are absorbed by the terrestrial biosphere[3], also in the ground soils between absorbed CO2 and soil moisture. Thus anthropogenic CO2 emissions to the atmosphere can increase the acidity of land, sea and air.)
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