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3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?

 
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1st s story time (CNN) -- A charter flight crashed Saturday afternoon in Canada's Arctic, killing 12 people and injuring three others, First Air said.

The Boeing 737-200, en route to Resolute Bay from Yellowknife, went down roughly 10 minutes after its last reported communication, according to the airline. Eleven passengers and four crew members were on board.

1/3rd of story , rest here [link to www.cnn.com]


Pilot killed at Kansas City air show
(CNN) -- The pilot of a high-performance biplane died Saturday afternoon when his aircraft crashed at an air show in Kansas City, Missouri, officials said.

The plane was doing maneuvers around 1:45 p.m. CT (2:45 p.m. ET) when it crashed into grass near a runway at the Charles B. Wheeler Downtown Airport, said Joe McBride, spokesman for the Kansas City Aviation Department.

1/4th of story .. rest here [link to www.cnn.com]


20 August 2011 Last updated at 18:30 ET
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Red Arrows pilot dies in Bournemouth Air Festival crash
An RAF Red Arrows pilot died when his plane crashed following a display at the Bournemouth Air Festival in Dorset.

Flt Lt Jon Egging, 33, from Rutland, was killed when his Hawk T1 aircraft - Red 4 - crashed about 1km south east of Bournemouth Airport at 13:50 BST.

Eyewitnesses described seeing the plane plunge to the ground in a field near the River Stour at Throop village.

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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
I may be wrong, but I doubt air show pilots are using much more than visual recognition.
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
That's what i'm saying < GPS Altitude computer systems. , they were reported to be flying lower than what they had been expected , one looks like it clipped the trees
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one in uk aswell today

Tributes have been paid to Flight Lieutenant Jon Egging after his Red Arrow jet crashed in Dorset.

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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
Well, the airshow crash is probably not one caused by instrument failure. The other two? Dunno.

Seems to me plane crashes are becoming a common occurance.

The air safety stats may need to be rewritten...
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
[link to planecrashinfo.com]

Wonder if any of these ,match any times of heavy solar activity or gamma ray burst , or anything else ....... just wondering , because we dont actually hear about all report crashes
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
some interesting reports

Date: July 06, 2011
Time: 23:00
Location: Near Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan

Summary: While flying at 12,500 feet, the cargo plane crashed into a mountain peak, exploded and burned about 15 miles from Bagram. The aircraft was loaded with fuel for the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan.


ACCIDENT DETAILS
Date: May 25, 2011
Time: 22:50
Location: Faridabad City, India
Operator: Air Charter Services Pvt. Ltd.

Summary: While en route, the plane crashed into the roof of a house and burst into flames. The flight was transporting a 20 year-old patient to Apollo Hospital. The patient, two doctors, two attendants, the pilot and copilot, as well as three people in the house were killed.


Date: April 19, 2011
Time: 13:57
Location: Tawang, India

Summary: The helicopter crashed into a hill as it attempted to land at a high altitude helipad Six, including the copilot escaped with minor injuries..

Date: February 22, 2011
Time: ?
Location: San Pedro del Rio, Venezuela

Summary: For unknown reasons, the small plane crashed into a field while en route.


ACCIDENT DETAILS
Date: February 14, 2011
Time: 08:02
Location: Near Santa Ana Francisco Morazan, Honduras
Operator: Central American Airways

Summary: The small airlilner crashed into a hill at an elevation of 2,000 feet while on approach in poor visibility

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The above are reports of similar accidents in the last year , 1/2 of the data was not provided please see previous post and link for more info
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
My wife's TomTom 920 has been off by as much as a quarter mile these past 3 days..... We think something is up.
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Florida had to change the airport what ever because of the rise in earths shuman freq.rise in energy.My guess

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I live in Anchorage, Alaska and mt GPS has been all out of wack today. It would jump locations and was never accurate within 5 miles. Usually its accurate to within 20' circumference.
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Interesting but accidents happen and they don't seem to be related.

I would call coincidence.
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Another one in Titusville, PA :

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bump
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Its weird cause chicago and michigan both had air shows this weekend.Which leads me to beleive this weekend is the national weekend for air shows.Its something i havent ever noticed before.The more planes you have flying at each other = more accidents I guess.
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I call faulty/diddled-with GPS.
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I live in Anchorage, Alaska and mt GPS has been all out of wack today. It would jump locations and was never accurate within 5 miles. Usually its accurate to within 20' circumference.
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I hear from a NASA conference, that the Magnetosphere is going nuts by solar flares and CME, the most likely to have problem was GPS navigation, Satelite communication, even my Satelite TV receiver is acting weird. (had to reset them like 3 times today due to lake of signal lost)

But anyway if something is wrong and the NTSB/FAA knows about it i seriously doubt that they are going to do nothing. Just cover up like ussual.
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
They don't use GPS for the altimeter. What the hell are you talking about? Not even on commercial airliners. As for navigation, the INS is used, not GPS. GPS is currently just used to assist with the INS but isn't relied upon.

As for these aerobatic planes, the most common mistake for these aerobatic planes is the pilot forgets to set his altimeter and misinterprets the ground altitude (Usually you would always set your altimeter to zero from the runway instead of sea level).
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Strange like in knowing: crash plane and after gps and cell phone problem because if solar flare. But don't mean to invistiguate more than that. Just underlying the coincidence...
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
I saw this earlier. The KC one. We have been hit with 2 massive storms 2 nights in a row. Last nights knocked our power at at 2:30am, it just came back 15 minutes ago. Out of boredom from no power I went down to the farmers market (5 blocks south and 2 blocks east) and while walking around I heard the sound of a aircraft going into a stall. When I looked up and found him he was just increasing his pitch vertical and then stalled, turned around, jumped his engines and dissapeared behind the building sky line. I thought it was crazy low but I figured it was a stunt for an air show. Now with power back I check here first to see what I've missed and find this.
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someones was suicidal today
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I wasn't aware of this solar flare the other day.



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My wife's TomTom 920 has been off by as much as a quarter mile these past 3 days..... We think something is up.
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I've had a lot of people tell me lately that they put my office address into their GPS and it is off by about 10 blocks. My house is off by about 1/2 mile.
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Air show crashes are not that uncommon. I doubt those have anything to do with anything other than pilot or mechanical error.
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Tonight friend called from area of Branson MO to tell about strangest lightning storms they eve seen... thinks EMF field is abnormal bigtime or Pole Shift is beginning for real !!! Also reported moon rose in "WRONG" position last night. --- so maybe this relates to plane crashes & other events. ???
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1st s story time (CNN) -- A charter flight crashed Saturday afternoon in Canada's Arctic, killing 12 people and injuring three others, First Air said.

The Boeing 737-200, en route to Resolute Bay from Yellowknife, went down roughly 10 minutes after its last reported communication, according to the airline. Eleven passengers and four crew members were on board.

1/3rd of story , rest here [link to www.cnn.com]


Pilot killed at Kansas City air show
(CNN) -- The pilot of a high-performance biplane died Saturday afternoon when his aircraft crashed at an air show in Kansas City, Missouri, officials said.

The plane was doing maneuvers around 1:45 p.m. CT (2:45 p.m. ET) when it crashed into grass near a runway at the Charles B. Wheeler Downtown Airport, said Joe McBride, spokesman for the Kansas City Aviation Department.

1/4th of story .. rest here [link to www.cnn.com]


20 August 2011 Last updated at 18:30 ET
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Red Arrows pilot dies in Bournemouth Air Festival crash
An RAF Red Arrows pilot died when his plane crashed following a display at the Bournemouth Air Festival in Dorset.

Flt Lt Jon Egging, 33, from Rutland, was killed when his Hawk T1 aircraft - Red 4 - crashed about 1km south east of Bournemouth Airport at 13:50 BST.

Eyewitnesses described seeing the plane plunge to the ground in a field near the River Stour at Throop village.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

 Quoting: StarshipH20 1274349


What got me with the Red Arrow Plane Crash was that he was apparently just coming in to Land when he somehow lost control and had to ditch both himself and the aircraft..

If this is correct I would like to know how a Plane/Jet crashes when simply coming in for Landing?

Anyone?
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
I wasn't aware of this solar flare the other day.



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When you watch that Simulation you can see that the Flare is ejected at almost the exact moment Earth,Mercury,Sol and Venus line up 'perfectly'
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Pilot killed at Kansas City air show
(CNN) -- The pilot of a high-performance biplane died Saturday afternoon when his aircraft crashed at an air show in Kansas City, Missouri, officials said.

The plane was doing maneuvers around 1:45 p.m. CT (2:45 p.m. ET) when it crashed into grass near a runway at the Charles B. Wheeler Downtown Airport, said Joe McBride, spokesman for the Kansas City Aviation Department.

1/4th of story .. rest here [link to www.cnn.com]
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Being in KC, I seen this story. He was doing spirals towards the ground and couldn't pull out. He fucked up, more to it than that. : /
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
there was an accident in titusville pa as well, it killed 2 men.
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the gremlins are angry
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I Was at Bournemouth Airport during The Airshow, giviny my Cessna a once over having thrown down south for a few days

I Did Get a Glimpse of some oil like markings, and what near the Under belly of The Fusilage, Port W
ing

Might Report it If i know whos doing The Investigation

Loss of Hydraulic Fluid?
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Re: 3 plane crashes in less than 24hrs , Solar? GPS, Altitude incorrect?
just saw a report in atlantic city press another aircraft crash . in NJ over the weekend





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