TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About?

No offense taken. Idols clearly inserted for fun because I AM bored.

Who is calling up the dead forsaking the LIving? I AM living rite here and now conversing with the holographic you who speaks in allegories with mainly cut and paste jobs with videos throw in. I enjoy your posts VERY much as well

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That is so true 777!!! A Man who
lives a couple of hours from
me is building a boat
exactly like the boat that
is depicted in art as being
Noah's Ark.....It is literally
so big that it totally
blocks the Neighbors view, not
sure how they feel about that....
He is building it as a symbol
a Sign of the Times, you know.
Who is 'RON'...reminds me of
ROCK (is) ON



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The only thing I cut and paste is when
the topic can not be put into better words
than what is already stated, EVERYThINg
I write is Written by me, and yes I do
speake in Parallels and allegories
for teaching purposes which directs the mind
to ThINK ON MORE THAN JUST ONE LEVEl.....
I mean I don't understand you-----on
the He's here thread, you claimed that
you had been accepted into Ordo Draconis,
and everybody congratulated you....then
it was no more than 2 months later, you
are cursing the Order and everything they
stand for....which leads me to believe
that you are confused.

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He is one of the ones your post is about (witness of God) and here is the word given him to give to the world at this end time as god promised .
[link to the-end.com]

Give it a read. the time has come and we are only 115 days away from the second coming. You believe in God ...BUT DO YOU BELIEVE GOD your response to this book will tell that.
this book(GOD USED) changed my life for evermore.

like a tunnel that leads on
into a tunnel of it's own

that leads into a cavern,where
the sun has never shown

like a circle ,in a circle,
like a wheel within a wheel

like a gyroscope revolving;
on a never ending reel.

like a runner who runs on,
in a never ending race.

like a clock who's hands revolve around the moments of it's face.

for the world is just an apple, spinning, silently,
in space.

keys that jingle
in your pocket,
words that jangle
in your head.

why did summer

pass

so

quickly?

was it something that i said?

portraits hang in a hall, ...or the fragments of a song.
half remembered names and faces,

but to whom do they belong?

and when you knew,
that it was over.

were you suddenly aware?
that the sacred night -
had turned into-

the color

of la palmas' hair.

- theme from the thomas crown affair- loosely adapted for your pleasure

oh bright and shining star!

Thanks 777 I will download it,
I suppose every thing is reciprocal~~~
The Master uses the slave, and the slave
in his own way, uses the master.

This is beautiful writing David, Thank you
I will have to go re watch this movie now.

Where did Summer go, and when Can we glory
in the light of her sun kissed star light again?
For now, the moon is the only light I know
it raptures the the cold winter fog
with its luminescent glow.
Walking me through the doors long
closed, you have laid sweetly
at my feet the petals of a rose.

The most high does not need witness to his brilliance nor his creation ....


The two will announce the beast before hand because sureley YHWH does nothing unless he reveal to his prophets before hand.


And YHWH being true to his Word and Torah will not destroy the beast or the false prophet unless this happens:


Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
Deu 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.


In revelation 11 it shows that they will be killed by the beast....

It goes down around and about the ark of the covenant.


Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

When you hear them prophesying against the beast, will you know that they are the true messenger of the Most High.

I KNOW exactly why I AM here and what I AM to do. But yes, I AM a bit confused on ONE thing and that is who my true brothers on low are for I AM looking for some fraternal guidance is all. There is no confusion to who I AM and where I come from or my work to do in this life on the great plan for I KNOW my purpose and why I AM here.

In order to get into the Ordo Draconis, a DNA test was required. I did the test and found out that the Ordo Draconis and their members are NOT true dragons or Gnostics but a faux organization that is a disgrace to my true heritage and my ancestors. The true dragons who come from Atlantis, Egypt, Israel, Ireland, Scotland, England, Britain, France, Canada and all over the world for we are the Levites and Druids ordained in this age to carry out the priestly duties and JUDGING. The only tribe meant to be free and not to be counted or measured.

I am related to Moses, Abraham, Pythagoras, Constantine, Bede, Hitler, Napoleon and the list can go on and on. That of the Templars. It is MY blood line and DNA that you are all speaking of when people such as Mikey make photo shop collages.

Let me ask you this Le Palma, "Can you speak or debate normally without all the BS allegories and videos in an intelligent matter for anyone to understand by expressing yourself in your own English words?" If you can (I AM not sure), let's have a debate about what this thread is about and what this 6th age of world is about in clear and concise words where everyone can understand. That way we can all see who knows WTF they are talking about and who doesn't know WTF they are talking about or who is ThINKling ON MORE THAN JUST ONE LEVEl.

Care to have a human conversation and or debate on the two witnesses or the ONE Le Palma?

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By the way Le Palma, why do you claim the Latin motto, NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT for the Order of the Thistle?

Are you a member? That was one of the ONLY reasons I bothered even posting on any of your threads for I thought you may have been kin. If not, my bad and I will happily move on to more brotherly productive activities.

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and a propeht of god would use such language right. maybe the god of this worlds prophet.. not GOD ALMIGHTY

That branch of Ordo Draconis do claim to be
descended from the Egyptian Kings, the
High Kings of Ireland, and the Kings
of Wales, so how can you say that they
are Illegitimate? The Duchy of Drakenburg
also associated with the Asian lineage
Royal Ashina Dynasty---The Dragon Family
of Asia.

My Ancestors claimed
to The Most Ancient and Noble
Order of the Thistle
Before its (theft) re-institution
by King James II of England and its
current Order under the Present British
Monarchy, where there is much
discrepancy as to whether that
Particular branch of 'Windsor' even
has a claim to the Throne being
descendants of the Germanic House
of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, (which by the way
That DNA is written all over their
faces, their skin Palor, and affinity
for certain disease that only affects
that bloodline because of its
'intermingling'),
The true Heirs of the Throne of England
and thus the Davidic Kingdom most
agree are descended from the
House of Stuart, from King
Robert II of Scotland, Who
was descended from King David I
King of Scots, named after his
ancestor King David of Israel.


Before that, My ancestors
claimed the Secret Society of Tamar,
of which few only know of its
existence, it is named
after the first born child
of Mary and
Yeshua, Sara-Tamar, and
its origins can be traced back
2,000 years. The Knights Templar
and the Prieuré de Sion were connected
with the Tamars, they had their own
language of communication, their
own currency in Gold, and Are
suspected of Retaining the Secrets
of the Ark,of which the key
is contained
within the Bloodline
and the
DNA.

Following into the times of the
Magna Carta in 1215, which
still remains on the statute
books of England and Wales,
at least 6 of my direct Ancestors
on the Maternal side have
written upon it their Signature
as Surety.....
Following that, into the late
1600's, several branches of my family
were forced (or tricked)
to emigrate to the
United States because of Religious
persecution, and confiscation of
Assets by the Crown and the Church,
STill in their possession or the
possession of the Crown's Lords today.
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I'm not really sure KT what it is that
you would like to debate in plain English.
WE are all connected in some way or another,
and what goes around comes back around
as according to the consistent and True
law of the Universe--reciprocity.
See the truth about America is that
the founders Hand was Forced, and
their associates Tricked to form
the United States of America, it
has always, and will always retain
its Allegiance to the British Crown
whether people want to admit that
or it or not. All of our Wars
have been engineered to Retain
and Grow their Power. We are their
Warhorse, and the Whip Remains
even but for a short time,
in their hands. Sure, whatever
you wanna debate, I'll try to
only speake in simple terms.



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Who gives a flying flip about what you
term the One anyways.....certainly
Not Me, and No one else that I see, except
to prompt False Imaginings and tickle
their fancy's with visions of gods.
This is about
What has happened to ALL OF US
and our Ancestors, whose
blood still flows in our veins today.
Most people don't
care about their ancestors, and what
has happened in the span of time,
but I do, and the Governments
Monarchy, and Powers
care as well or else they wouldn't
Shove the issue in our Face
when push comes to shove.

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I wrote a little something for the Kids and the G's
Whose lives hang by a thread, in perilous days as these...
as deck of cards flys from the hands of the Dealer----so too
my Words come from A Soul of feeling

I Am the Fatherless, the Distressed and Torn
I AM the Scarred woman, beaten and scorned
I AM the Orphan Crying out for food
I AM the Barren in a World of Desolate Womb
I AM the Prisoner To Whom no comfort Was given
My Terra and Despair, I bravely kept hidden
I am in this Society Oppressed in Every Way
Poisoned by enemies ---shall you look to see the
Effects upon my face?

And if these facts you find hard to believe
The Proof presents Broadly
the Sign and Seal upon my body

In such a state it was that I was found
And the Force of the living God
Made my BEing To Abound------
With Wisdom and Nurture causing me to Prevail
and Endurance and Fortitude, these do not Fail

I now cast my spelling on this Day
And SEEK the morrow when Sorrow shall DEcay
My Eye is Meek but for all it sees
A dAy for Reckoning of all I speake--= NE Palm

A Day of Reckoning Le Palma?

Well,Hilos I don't really understand
what KT is so upset at me about.
The only thing I can guess is
that he is mad because I told
him not to post the same
pictures of idols that we have
seen a million times on forum
over and over again on this thread.

He claims to be fighting for
some wannabe brotherhood, and
from the symbols he posts
and and the pictures, it appears
to me that he is associated
(or wants to be associated
with) some illuminati group
that is associated with the
CAtholic Church,posting
Knight of the Garter
and other military honor
Orders as if they are his own
which could be termed as
Treason against the Order
according to their laws
just so you know.

And also I read on the
Sedona Arizona Thread
that he might actually
be Mark Pinkham, or associated
with Mark, or Charles who is
also associated with Mark. Who
knows, I know people reading
don't know who these people
are, but I know exactly who
they are and what they are
about, and I know all about
the little war that has erupted
over all this within the
Orders and their subjugates
.
They are all trying
to Get a piece of the PIE.


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Oh, I could see how that might upset you, most the stuff you post seems pretty original with credit to sources of inspiration with the acknowledgement of some secrecy.

I love talented guitar players and musicians.
I haven't heard that song before, thanks
for posting AC.

when the white eagle of the north
is flying overhead

and the browns, reds, and golds , of autumn.
lie in the gutter.......dead

remember then the gulls of summer,
carried on wings of fire

come to witness spring's new hope,
born of leaves decayed.

as new life-

will spring from death-

love arrives-

at her leisure.

love of love
love of life
love of living, and giving....


without measure-

gives in return the wondrous yearning, for truth, almost seen.

take
my
hand

and forever we'll stand


on the threshold.... of a dream....


- a poem that serves as an intro to the song "have you heard" by the moody blues-

i submit this to you
my courageous little one
in the fondest hope
that it may inspire you as it has me

:blue flame:What a breath of fresh air to read
writing like this, that was nice

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The Bactrian Treasure
(also known as Bactrian Hoard) found on
Golden Hill or Tillia -TEPE in Afghanistan
Thousands of years old dug up
in 1979 during the Russian
Invasion. 20,600 gold ornaments taken
and removed from their founding
at Golden Hill.

Bactria (Bactriana, Bakh-tar in Persian ,
also Bha-lika in Arabic and
Indian languages, and Ta-Hsia in Chinese)

Bactria was the homeland of
Aryan tribes who later
moved south-west into Iran,
South Afghanistan, North Pakistan
and North-Western India
around 2500-2000 BC Later it became
the north province of the Persian Empire
in Central Asia .(Cotterell, 59)
[link to lukferi.webs.com]

Bactrian language was completely
assimilated by the Persian.
The Bactrians are one of the
ancestral lines of the modern-day
Pashtuns , Tajiks, Dards, and Pamirians
Who believe themselves to be descended
from the Hebrews tribes.

Joseph-Pierre Ferrier wrote his
History of the Afghans in 1858.
It was translated by Capt. W. M. Jesse.

“When Nadir Shah marching to the
conquest of India arrived
at Peshawar, the chief of the tribe of
Yoosoof Zyes (Sons of Joseph)
presented him with a Bible written
in Hebrew and several other articles
that had been used in their ancient
worship and which they had preserved.
These articles were at once recognized
by the jewish people who followed the camp.
So the presence of Bibles among Afghans show
their Jewish origin.”

The Children in modern day Afghanistan
face Hell everyday, as do their families
disease, poverty, unfit water, and
poor medical care.

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I think their purpose would be to reveal the nature of God and the reality of sin.

Having seen various people wind up miserable and depressed engaged in behaviors which are not tolerated by the Bible, but which are promoted on American TV and radio many people don't know what sin is, unless they are raised in church.

And unfortunately televangelists are not representative of God because they violate an important concept in the ministry of the early disciples of Christ. They were not paid actors. They didn't not have theological degrees. Their intelligence came not from professional education in a seminary but from the Holy Spirit and inspiration. Their service to the ministry, the people they served, and God was performed without monetary gain in mind.



A lot of people after watching Benny Hinn are going to need to see a representation of God's authority that doesn't include knocking people down for cash on a stage.

Three overturns

But couldn’t the throne have been transferred elsewhere for a long time before being transferred to the British Isles? The indirect answer from prophecy seems to be no.

In Ezekiel 21:26-27


, God declared that Zedekiah was to "remove the diadem and take off the crown: This shall not be the same [a change or transfer was occurring]; exalt him that is low [the Zarhite ruler in Israel] and abase him that is high [Zedekiah of the line of Perez]. I will overturn, overturn, overturn it [the crown, that is, the throne]; and it shall be no more [overturned] until HE come whose right it is; and I will give it HIM [Christ]" (KJV).

Notice that the final "overturned" was added in brackets for the sake of clarity. Some see this verse as a prophecy of the overthrow of the crown—that it would "be no more" (meaning no longer exist) until Christ came to claim it. Yet this cannot be the meaning of this prophecy or God would be breaking His unbreakable promise to David of an unbreakable dynasty. So the overturning must refer to removing the throne from one nation and raising it up in another. And the mentioning of overturn three times would certainly seem to be saying that such overturning would occur three times—that three times the throne would be transferred to another nation and that it wouldn’t be transferred again until Jesus Christ’s coming in power and glory to take it over.

When was the last time another country’s monarchy was transplanted into the throne’s present location in England? The answer is 1603, when King James VI of Scotland became King James I of Great Britain (the one who commissioned the King James Bible). This is obviously the last overturn to have taken place. Because of it, today’s British monarchs are of Scottish royal descent.

Prior to that, was another country’s throne ever transplanted into Scotland? Yes. The throne of the Scoti (as the Irish were anciently called) was moved from Ireland into southwest Scotland in the late fifth century—their kingdom of Dalriada in that area, centered at Iona (a name perhaps related to Ionia of Greece), eventually growing to envelop what is now Scotland. This was clearly the previous overturn—which is why Scotland’s monarchy, which became Britain’s monarchy, was actually Irish.

Now since these were the last two overturns of three, there can only have been one other—the first. And that first overturn had to have been the transfer of the throne from Judah. Thus it should be clear that this transfer must have been from Judah to Ireland. Had the throne been transferred from Judah to some other country before later being reestablished in Ireland, that would add a fourth overturn—when Scripture appears to allow for only three. By simple deduction, the three overturns must have been: 1) Judah to Ireland; 2) Ireland to Scotland; 3) Scotland to England.

It should be mentioned, though, that in the first overturn it is possible that the daughter of Zedekiah married into the Milesian Zerah line in Spain or elsewhere around the time it was in the process of assuming control over Ireland. This would not be adding another overturn from Spain to Ireland, as it would all be part of the same overturn. Whether or not this happened, however, is dependent on exactly when the Milesians from Spain took over Ireland, which is not entirely clear. They may have already become established in Ireland before Jeremiah’s journey—though perhaps still maintaining control over part of Spain when he arrived. Again, however, it is possible that Zedekiah’s daughter and Jeremiah actually accompanied the Milesians in their invasion of Ireland from Spain.

Wow, this is alot of Important information
you have added AC:)

"They may have already become established in Ireland before Jeremiah’s journey—though perhaps still maintaining control over part of Spain when he arrived. Again, however, it is possible that Zedekiah’s daughter and Jeremiah actually accompanied the Milesians in their invasion of Ireland from Spain." AC10014710

I think relations were already established~~~
Solomon's Copper Mines and Vast Trade
Routes of the Phoenicians to that Area
from Tyre. There were also the Asiatic
trade routes... I read also that during
Tamar Tephi's and Jeremiah's transit,
there were already "Resting Places"
and 'Refuges' set up
along the Trade Routes for them to
Eat, and hide from the Babylonians.

I understood the literature as
the High King of Ireland was
waiting for her arrival and had
also received a sign of her coming,
and she would give
him a sign so that he
would know that it was her.
They were family, separated by
Space and time, reunited after
a most Gruesome Siege on Their
Friends, City,Kingdom and
Everything they knew.
Ard Rí na hEireann


"Despite the strong remonstrances of
Jeremiah and others of the pro-Babylonian party,
King Zedekiah revolted against
Babylon and entered into an alliance
with Pharaoh Hophra of Egypt.
Nebuchadnezzar returned,
defeated the Egyptians,
and again besieged Jerusalem.
The city fell in 587.
King Zedekiah whose true name
was Mattanyahu, "Gift of God"
passed lineage through
his Two daughters, Tamar
TEphi, or 'tea' (Beautiful
Wanderer) and Scota.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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They Witness About Humans......

My ancestors were Culdees, Druids and then Bedesmen long before the Order of the Thistle and I mean no disrespect to you or the order for it grows from the same tree. If you had truly studied history you would clearly see that the first orders were instituted as "cults" and venerated after mainly Saints who had joined the Catholic Church. NOT kings or some dude with a crown. The Saints WERE and STILL ARE the true Great White Brotherhood and last time I checked, there were very few Kings or Ceasars along side of them. Again, the Bedesmen I can prove come from my family and they were the Kings advisers looooooooooooooong before anyone else and the first order that would later spawn many more.

Without the Saints and our blood line, yours would simply not be or have been simply a lot less. So you should be thanking me and my kin for our good work as I do yours. In building the Temple, we now accepted you Gentiles to be living stones based on the work you put in for "us."

Bede - The temple is the church, constructed from the living stones of all believers (Homeliae 2. 24. 234-37). In De templo Bede repeatedly uses the theme of the jewish people and gentiles as the archetypal New Testament image of ... The living stones of the Temple are cemented together 'for in Christ Jesus there is no circumcision nor lack of it' With the temple representing the Church since 'its builders came from the Gentiles as well'

Hence, you could be very well off in the brotherhood on low and have many honors that have been bestowed upon you for the work your ancestors have done but please do not think just because your ancestors were Kings or members of orders that this makes it de facto proof or scientific evidence that you are all in fact direct descendants of the suns of God or should I say the sons of Moses. But yes, you can all be kings and members of orders and also get into the heavenly homeland. But again, this is based on work put in and not blood as it is the same for me even though I AM truly a dire4ct descendant of this blood line.

Your blood line is what I call the puppet king blood line that we had managed to institute many, many centuries ago and if you all knew history and even current events you would know that the true powers always stood behind the curtain and yes Le Palma, it started with our Gnostic, Druid and Levite Catholic brothers who had joined the Roman Rite, AKA war machine back over 2,000 years ago for without us dragons who advised the Kings and were thanes to the Kings, these same said Kings would have been weak failures with nice crowns.

Last time I was alive, in the 7th and 8th centuries, our family and blood line had made some serious sacrifices for the Catholic Church for whom we had contracts with to form the world wide brotherhood as did all of us Saints who are God's Army and NOT the Kings.

The reason I say all this is because in order to have the true dragon blood or should I say as pure blood of the sons of God as you can get, your DNA should be as close to our ancestors who have went before us. Let us take for example Napoleon Bonoparte who of course had reinstated the Knights Templars and under took various missions to our homeland.

You said this: The Knights Templar
and the Prieuré de Sion were connected
with the Tamars, they had their own
language of communication, their
own currency in Gold, and Are
suspected of Retaining the Secrets
of the Ark,of which the key
is contained
within the Bloodline
and the
DNA.

Do you know what one of the greatest French Military Rulers and Templars DNA is? Do you think it is R1B1? LOL, no Napoleon has the same DNA as me and that is the E1B1C1 Haplogroup. So it is funny that you bring that up the Prieuré de Sion and the Templars because I can prove that Napoleon is NOT your blood or DNA.

Are you saying that Napoleon and the Ordo Supremus Militaris Templi Hierosolymitani were or are imposters?

Again, if you, De Vere and your Ordo Draconis have truly studied history and the history of the brotherhood you would know without a doubt that there have ALWAYS been 3 powers;

1. that of the King

2. that of the Catholic Church and

3. that of the secret brotherhood of the Levites who controlled and still controls all the puppets and pieces and in this age.

This rite and these people are given to us as clear as day with the New Testament. We are ordained by God. This tribe of Moses who would be the Levites. If you are not related to Moses and the Levites, then you are a Gentile and not of my tribe. But hey, you still can serve a purpose and have done very well for the brotherhood. Don't feel bad but feel proud for I AM not taking your orders from your or all your titles but just know I AM a messenger or should I say "WITNESS" of the truth for in order to witness, you had to have been there.

What are you witnessing rite here and now Le Palam by debating with me. Let me clue you with this video below. Yes, I AM here.



LINKS FOR RESEARCH:

Napoleon DNA - [link to www.igenea.com]

Levite DNA - [link to www.familytreedna.com]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Templars - [link to www.osmth.org]

Historical Overview

Today’s Order of the Temple was founded in France, 1705, reconstituted in 1804, and recognised as an Order of Chivalry by its patron Napoleon Bonaparte in 1805; this recognition was later ratified by Napoleon III. It is important to note that OSMTH does not claim direct descent or continuation from the ancient Order founded by Hugues de Payens in 1118 and dissolved by
Pope Clement V in 1312

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