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YOUCITY23abE (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/14/2012 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part 1- Barak Obama / PI/ St.louis Pizza/ University City Barak Obama said during a speech under the Gateway Arch ,"Some people like to cake , I like pie" Marie Anntoinette was allegedly quoted as saying , "Let them eat cake!" I will tell the rest of this story tomorrow and if anyone is interested I will move on to another one. |
YOUCITY23~Abe Simpson (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/14/2012 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, before I go to bed and before I explain the first part I mentioned I thought I might skip ahead and explain what little I know of this subject later but I figured it might get some people watching the thread a little more I intrigued. This is a clip of possibly every episode on The Simpsons which mentions Missouri or a city in MO or east St.louis which happens to be just across the river from St.louie MO in IL and they do mention it quit a bit. If you notice, it seems like they are intentinolly trying to confuse the viewers as to locations of cities and states by repeadtly referring to N,S,E,W. especially with all of the mentions of east st.louis which would confuse anyone not from the St.Louis area. They even do it with scenes of city horizons. Is it just me who is noticing these things that seem like their are intenionally trying to confuse viewers ? |
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Ohwow! User ID: 3821694 United States 01/14/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interested in hearing your take on things. I still don't know why or what was the course of history put in play when John Paul II went to Missouri - why Missouri? Seems like everything gets refocused back to that region somehow, some way, whether it is weather related (catastrophic) military rumors, Nafta, religions, etc... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8830741 United States 01/14/2012 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone wondered what the significance is about the Arch being place in St. Louis (by the Mighty Mississippi) and the Obelisk in D.C.? If the Obelisk is the *___* in freemasonry, then wouldn't the Arch represent the "birthing" part of the body (plus it's right on a huge river). What does it mean? |
YOUCITY (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/15/2012 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interested in hearing your take on things. I still don't know why or what was the course of history put in play when John Paul II went to Missouri - why Missouri? Seems like everything gets refocused back to that region somehow, some way, whether it is weather related (catastrophic) military rumors, Nafta, religions, etc... That's a very goof question , one I have never explored. I plan to now, thanks. I can tell you that in the last ten years St.Louis has had two different Cardinals elected into the Cardinals College. Wikipedia - The Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura is the highest judicial authority in the Catholic Church (apart from the Pope himself, who as the supreme ecclesiastical judge, is the final point of appeal for any ecclesiastical judgment).[1] In addition, it oversees the administration of justice in the Church.[2] The current Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura (since June 27, 2008) is Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, previously Archbishop of St. Louis, Missouri and Bishop of La Crosse, Wisconsin. The current Secretary (since April 12, 2008) is Bishop Frans Daneels, O. Praem.. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/15/2012 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone wondered what the significance is about the Arch being place in St. Louis (by the Mighty Mississippi) and the Obelisk in D.C.? Quoting: D'Light If the Obelisk is the *___* in freemasonry, then wouldn't the Arch represent the "birthing" part of the body (plus it's right on a huge river). What does it mean? The best information I have found about the arch is in these links. I think it represents a bridge. I also think it was placed near a body of water for esoteric reasons , for the reflection. It may have something to do with something I'm learning about called "the rainbow bridge". Ill post the links for you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/15/2012 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone wondered what the significance is about the Arch being place in St. Louis (by the Mighty Mississippi) and the Obelisk in D.C.? Quoting: D'Light If the Obelisk is the *___* in freemasonry, then wouldn't the Arch represent the "birthing" part of the body (plus it's right on a huge river). What does it mean? The best information I have found about the arch is in these links. I think it represents a bridge. I also think it was placed near a body of water for esoteric reasons , for the reflection. It may have something to do with something I'm learning about called "the rainbow bridge". Ill post the links for you. "The Gateway Arch was designed by Finnish American architect Eero Saarinen and structural engineer Hannskarl Bandel in 1947. Construction began on February 12, 1963, and ended on October 28, 1965. The monument opened to the public on July 10, 1967. Eero grew up within the community of the Cranbrook Academy of Art in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, where his father taught. Many amazing artist were brought into fruition through the Cranbrook institute including, Eero Saarinen, Carl Milles, Marshall Fredericks, and even author William Henry. The Arch is the tallest national monument in the United States at 630 feet. The Arch is a structure known as a catenary curve, the shape a free-hanging chain takes when held at both ends, and considered the most structurally-sound arch shape. The span of the Arch legs at ground level is 630 feet, the same as its height. For Saarinen, “The major concern …was to create a monument which would have lasting significance and would be a landmark of our time… Neither an obelisk nor a rectangular box nor a dome seemed right on this site or for this purpose. But here, at the edge of the Mississippi River, a great arch did seem right."(18) Although the Gateway was designed as an Arch, Eero Saarinen felt when viewed from the side it could be symbolic of an obelisk! Within this one monument the male and female symbolism was represented. Minoru Yamasaki, designer of the former World Trade Center, once stated in regards to the design of the Arch, “Being the gateway to a large city, St. Louis, I had felt from the very beginning that somehow this building should symbolize this sense of being a gateway.” [link to www.chadstuemke.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/15/2012 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone wondered what the significance is about the Arch being place in St. Louis (by the Mighty Mississippi) and the Obelisk in D.C.? Quoting: D'Light If the Obelisk is the *___* in freemasonry, then wouldn't the Arch represent the "birthing" part of the body (plus it's right on a huge river). What does it mean? The best information I have found about the arch is in these links. I think it represents a bridge. I also think it was placed near a body of water for esoteric reasons , for the reflection. It may have something to do with something I'm learning about called "the rainbow bridge". Ill post the links for you. "The Gateway Arch was designed by Finnish American architect Eero Saarinen and structural engineer Hannskarl Bandel in 1947. Construction began on February 12, 1963, and ended on October 28, 1965. The monument opened to the public on July 10, 1967. Eero grew up within the community of the Cranbrook Academy of Art in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, where his father taught. Many amazing artist were brought into fruition through the Cranbrook institute including, Eero Saarinen, Carl Milles, Marshall Fredericks, and even author William Henry. The Arch is the tallest national monument in the United States at 630 feet. The Arch is a structure known as a catenary curve, the shape a free-hanging chain takes when held at both ends, and considered the most structurally-sound arch shape. The span of the Arch legs at ground level is 630 feet, the same as its height. For Saarinen, “The major concern …was to create a monument which would have lasting significance and would be a landmark of our time… Neither an obelisk nor a rectangular box nor a dome seemed right on this site or for this purpose. But here, at the edge of the Mississippi River, a great arch did seem right."(18) Although the Gateway was designed as an Arch, Eero Saarinen felt when viewed from the side it could be symbolic of an obelisk! Within this one monument the male and female symbolism was represented. Minoru Yamasaki, designer of the former World Trade Center, once stated in regards to the design of the Arch, “Being the gateway to a large city, St. Louis, I had felt from the very beginning that somehow this building should symbolize this sense of being a gateway.” [link to www.chadstuemke.com] Masonic Astronomy and Saint Louis' Gateway Arch [link to www.edkohout.com] |
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goodmockingbird User ID: 1538985 United States 01/16/2012 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Last Edited by goodmockingbird on 01/16/2012 03:18 AM I Support Our First Responders |
YOUCITY (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/16/2012 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he was a real person. The king of France , Saint Louis or Louis the IX. He was from the very powerful and infamous House of Capet. There is one statue of him in St.louis and he's riding a hoarse I believe lifting his arm. It's in front of the History museum on top of Art hill in Forest Park, home of the 1904 Worlds Fair. |
YOUCITY (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/16/2012 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Quoting: goodmockingbird Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Thankyou mockingbird. I am very familar with these mounds and have been visiting Monks Mound ever since I was a small child. I didn't realize their importance and how significant they are to the planet untill just about 5 years ago. I agree they are important. I believe it's one of the most powerful places on the planet and that's why they have polluted east st.louis with strip clubs, drugs, porn theaters, toxic waste sites and factories with huge dirty smoke stacks and an abnormal amount of small airports seem to be in the area. I'm not sure what that's all about but the rest was planned for a reason I believe. |
YOUCITY23 (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/16/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | St.louis the City of the Sun & Gateway to the stars by - Chad Stumeke In the heartland of America there is an out of this world piece of real estate that still radiates with cosmic energies to this very day. Located in southern Illinois, just outside of modern day St. Louis is the ancient sacred landscape known today as Cahokia Mounds, also referred to as the City of the Sun. The Mississippian culture that is believed to have occupied this area flourished from approximately 800A.D. to 1300 A.D. boasting a population upwards of 20,000 during it’s peak (a larger urban center than London during this period of time). The original site contained around 120 earthen mounds covering over an area of six square miles. In 1982 Cahokia was designated a World Heritage site by (UNESCO) in hopes of preserving and protecting the 80 or so mounds that still remain. According to archeologists as well as the Cahokia interpretive center, the precise reason for the disappearance of this civilization still remains a mystery. There have been numerous articles written on The Cahokian people, who were they? where did they come from? and where did they go? Today we're going to take a look at Cahokia from a slightly different perspective. We’re going to take a step back, or up, and view Cahokia through a birds-eye view. Rather than focusing on just the Cahokians themselves, we will examine some of the symbolism they left behind within their layout of the landscape as well as some of the ancient relics discovered within the mounds. If we ever wish to truly understand this lost culture, a good first step is to take a look at their beliefs and how they incorporated them into the landscape, their culture, and even the time-capsule like relics they left behind. [link to www.chadstuemke.com] |
U~Sit~Tea (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/17/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mormons believe that Missouri was possibly the original Garden of Eden. The revelation given to them was to go to the land of Missouri where the Lord would reveal the Center Place of Zion. The final temple of the Mormons will be built on this site in Missouri. The site has not been finally selected yet but several places are being considered. |
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KimsThankful User ID: 8590354 United States 01/18/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Quoting: goodmockingbird Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Thankyou mockingbird. I am very familar with these mounds and have been visiting Monks Mound ever since I was a small child. I didn't realize their importance and how significant they are to the planet untill just about 5 years ago. I agree they are important. I believe it's one of the most powerful places on the planet and that's why they have polluted east st.louis with strip clubs, drugs, porn theaters, toxic waste sites and factories with huge dirty smoke stacks and an abnormal amount of small airports seem to be in the area. I'm not sure what that's all about but the rest was planned for a reason I believe. I haven't been to Cahokia yet (pretty sad, since I live in SW MO atm) but when I was in college, my geography professor took us on a field trip to Clovis, NM, where we learned about the vast trading networks of 400-1500 years ago, possibly older. Clovis, NM is near the quarry where the flint for "Clovis points" (arrowheads) was excavated. It's unique to that area and Clovis points were found as far away as Cahokia, showing that trade did exist between people in the what-is-now NM area and people in the Cahokia area. Interesting stuff! Thanks OP! |
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YOUCITY (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/18/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Quoting: goodmockingbird Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Thankyou mockingbird. I am very familar with these mounds and have been visiting Monks Mound ever since I was a small child. I didn't realize their importance and how significant they are to the planet untill just about 5 years ago. I agree they are important. I believe it's one of the most powerful places on the planet and that's why they have polluted east st.louis with strip clubs, drugs, porn theaters, toxic waste sites and factories with huge dirty smoke stacks and an abnormal amount of small airports seem to be in the area. I'm not sure what that's all about but the rest was planned for a reason I believe. I haven't been to Cahokia yet (pretty sad, since I live in SW MO atm) but when I was in college, my geography professor took us on a field trip to Clovis, NM, where we learned about the vast trading networks of 400-1500 years ago, possibly older. Clovis, NM is near the quarry where the flint for "Clovis points" (arrowheads) was excavated. It's unique to that area and Clovis points were found as far away as Cahokia, showing that trade did exist between people in the what-is-now NM area and people in the Cahokia area. Interesting stuff! Thanks OP! Thanks Kim. Interesting story about Clovis NM with the quarry and arrowheads. Never heard of it before but I'll look into it , thanks. SW MO is an amazing place. So is NW Arkansas. I'm very interested and drawn to that region of the state. I love the Ozarks. When I start getting close to it while I'm driving , I can feel it. It's not anticipation it's something different. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145382 United States 01/18/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mormons believe that Missouri was possibly the original Garden of Eden. The revelation given to them was to go to the land of Missouri where the Lord would reveal the Center Place of Zion. The final temple of the Mormons will be built on this site in Missouri. The site has not been finally selected yet but several places are being considered. Quoting: U~Sit~Tea 1554286 There is that big white Mormon temple off Hwy. 40 in west co. I think it's on N. Outer 40. Google it and it says several places were dedicated to a temple in MO, but that is the first one built. It was completed in 1997. Could it be the final temple? |
Thug Cat Top Hat User ID: 7313537 United States 01/18/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Quoting: goodmockingbird Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Thankyou mockingbird. I am very familar with these mounds and have been visiting Monks Mound ever since I was a small child. I didn't realize their importance and how significant they are to the planet untill just about 5 years ago. I agree they are important. I believe it's one of the most powerful places on the planet and that's why they have polluted east st.louis with strip clubs, drugs, porn theaters, toxic waste sites and factories with huge dirty smoke stacks and an abnormal amount of small airports seem to be in the area. I'm not sure what that's all about but the rest was planned for a reason I believe. I live 10 minutes from Monks Mound. So you're saying rhe city, E. St. Louis, Madison county/St. Clair county would ruin their entire economies because of Monks Mound? WTF? Do you really believe this? My God are you stupid beyond belief. |
YOUCITY (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/18/2012 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mormons believe that Missouri was possibly the original Garden of Eden. The revelation given to them was to go to the land of Missouri where the Lord would reveal the Center Place of Zion. The final temple of the Mormons will be built on this site in Missouri. The site has not been finally selected yet but several places are being considered. Quoting: U~Sit~Tea 1554286 There is that big white Mormon temple off Hwy. 40 in west co. I think it's on N. Outer 40. Google it and it says several places were dedicated to a temple in MO, but that is the first one built. It was completed in 1997. Could it be the final temple? Is it white? If its the one I think it is it's a Scientology temple built in the 90s. That's the only one I can think of in that area. |
YOUCITY23abE (OP) User ID: 1554286 United States 01/18/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into the story of the moundbuilders who created one of the least known civilisations of the earth right where St Louis is now. Quoting: goodmockingbird Most people know about 'the' Cahokia mounds near East St Louis -- there is a park there with some existing mounds -- but over the centuries, between approximately 800AD to 1400AD the moundbuilders built dozens of cities on both sides of the Mississippi. They were the center of a trading empire which reached from the Great Lakes to Mexico, from the state of Mississippi to Oklahoma. The river itself has shifted course many times there. Millions of people lived in ancient cities in what is now the St Louis area -- and almost know one knows anything about them. Start looking up "moundbuilders" and "Cahokia". Thankyou mockingbird. I am very familar with these mounds and have been visiting Monks Mound ever since I was a small child. I didn't realize their importance and how significant they are to the planet untill just about 5 years ago. I agree they are important. I believe it's one of the most powerful places on the planet and that's why they have polluted east st.louis with strip clubs, drugs, porn theaters, toxic waste sites and factories with huge dirty smoke stacks and an abnormal amount of small airports seem to be in the area. I'm not sure what that's all about but the rest was planned for a reason I believe. I live 10 minutes from Monks Mound. So you're saying rhe city, E. St. Louis, Madison county/St. Clair county would ruin their entire economies because of Monks Mound? WTF? Do you really believe this? My God are you stupid beyond belief. I really believe this. Do you have a better explanation for the condition of east st.louis and the counties that surround it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145382 United States 01/18/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mormons believe that Missouri was possibly the original Garden of Eden. The revelation given to them was to go to the land of Missouri where the Lord would reveal the Center Place of Zion. The final temple of the Mormons will be built on this site in Missouri. The site has not been finally selected yet but several places are being considered. Quoting: U~Sit~Tea 1554286 There is that big white Mormon temple off Hwy. 40 in west co. I think it's on N. Outer 40. Google it and it says several places were dedicated to a temple in MO, but that is the first one built. It was completed in 1997. Could it be the final temple? Is it white? If its the one I think it is it's a Scientology temple built in the 90s. That's the only one I can think of in that area. Sorry I don't know how to link or embed anything, so you'll have to Google Mormon Temple, St. Louis. It's that big white church that gleams in the sun- very pretty. You can see it from the highway. I'm having trouble thinking exactly where it is. Maybe near the new CBC. |
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