My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

Higher level masons understand the movement of the heavens.

and Clinton
and Bush
and Carter
and Reagan
and Obama (black freemason)

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The real secrets are not within Masonry proper. The secrets are within those allied organizations that only recruit master masons. Some of them are: Tall Cedars of Lebanon, The Grotto, Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia. Shriners only recruit 32 degree masons of Scottish Rite or Knights Templar degree of York Rite.

See here:

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So, when masons say that there's nothing sinister or untoward about Masonry, they're being honest. However, if you ask about the Shrine. they'll be very evasive. What you're taught in the abstract in the degrees of Masonry, you actually put to practice in the allied organizations.

Take a look at these meeting halls:

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The real secrets are not within Masonry proper. The secrets are within those allied organizations that only recruit master masons. Some of them are: Tall Cedars of Lebanon, The Grotto, Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia. Shriners only recruit 32 degree masons of Scottish Rite or Knights Templar degree of York Rite.

See here:

[link to www.alliquippalodge.com]

So, when masons say that there's nothing sinister or untoward about Masonry, they're being honest. However, if you ask about the Shrine. they'll be very evasive. What you're taught in the abstract in the degrees of Masonry, you actually put to practice in the allied organizations.

Take a look at these meeting halls:JUST A REPLY - MY WIFES SIDE OF THE FAMILY - WERE - ARE ALL FREEMASONS. AND EACH OF THEM WILL LITERILY WILL GIVE U THE SHIRT OFF THEIR BACK. - FACT. THEY SPORTED THE PINS AND WENT TO MEETINGS IN PHILLY SEVRAL TIMES A YEAR. NOW HERES THE PART THAT, I WAS TOLD BY ALL OF THEM, (( VERY CONFUSEING, OR THE ECONOMEY FLOOPED????? . BOTTOM LINE I REALY DONT KNOW. MY WIFE N I WERE TOLD JUST THIS. IF ONE OF THEM GOT ILL, OR DIED, THEY WOULD BE PUT IN A FREE MASON - REST HOME TYPE DEAL. OH I SEE THEM, THEIR AROUND R PHILLY AREA. HOWEVER THE TRUE DEAL, ISWBU, DID I WOULD. RRIEDBUT MAN IF I WITH THAT 5 DOLLOR PIN, SADLJUMP IN AND IF ONE CAN SHED ANY LIGHT. WE WOULD BE THANKFUL.Y THATSERE ( NOTHI. THENOT SWEAR DO TRUTH, I NG THAT WE WERE TOLD AT ALL, IM PUTTING THIS OUT THEIR CAALL USE, - SOMETHING IS BEYONDDDD WRONG. WE WERE TOLD THAT IF THEY WERE ILL, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO ONE OF THE LOCAL FREE MASON TYPE CLUBS, I DESCRIBEDPLEASE EARLIER. OH AND ALSO THEIR ( WIVES - SAME DEAL EXTREMELY WELL TAKEN CARE OFF. EVEN SOME FUNDS WOULD BE GIVEON TO THEM MONTHLY. WE WERE TOLD, ALL FREE, THE BURIAL ALSO FREE ECT. SADLY HOW WE FOUND OUT, BACK IN THE 1980 S. MY WIFES ( FREEMASON GRANDFATHER BECAME VERY ILL. SO I SPOKE TO HIS WIFE, AND OF COURSE MY WIFES GRANDMOTHER. WE LL SHE DID NOT ( AND SHE WAS NOT WORRIED EVEN A LITTLE UPSET. CAUSE THE MASONS ( WERE 100% HOOKED UP. WELL I MADE THE CALLS TO THE MASONS???? , MAN - NO FREE STAY, NP NOTHING. SADLY MY WIFES GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY. SAME DEAL, NO FUNDING AT ALL???? . TO THE POINT, WE HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO PAY 3 THOUSAND DOLLOTS TO GET THE GRAVE DIGGERS TO - SIMPLY START TO DIG THE GRAVE. I THEN SPOKE TO HER UNCLES AND THEY SWORE ALL THE FUNDS WOULD BE RE - PAID. AND IT MUST HAVE BEEN A FLUKE, WHY HE ( DID NOT GET THE LIVEING ARRANGEMENTS. - AND THEY ALL TRUELY - REALY - BELEIVED THIS. TO DATE, IM ON A PAYMENT PLAN WITH A LOCAL FUNREAL HOME. THE ONLY THING ( I TRUELY SAW - THEY

[link to www.pagrandlodge.org]

Higher level masons understand the movement of the heavens.

I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.

I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.

Masons are psychopaths. People have to have those kinds of tendencies to join in the first place. They progress up the pyramid based on how psychopathic they already are or are willing to become.

Masons do very bad things for their own pleasure and to progress to the higher levels. Lots of blackmail. They all have dirt on each other. It is their secrets that bind them not any sort of benevolent brotherhood.

Masons become possessed by demons or other malevolent entities through their rituals.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

This part that you wrote, I agree with and remember a very past cycle, before the annanuki toppled the equality, in fact mars went down during that struggle of the various factions.

The super soldiers today resemble what was done then and the factions or splinters.

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.

What you speak of merely one layer of truth.

Even the top "masons" are far below the pinnacle of knowledge.