Why are women naturally left wing and socialist?

Left wing and socialist? Those right there are fighting words Jackwagon!!!! I am a woman and am neither :P

Many men also want a permanent "mommy" around to wash and cook and sew for them, because they can't do it themselves.

Like I said before: the problem is dependency, regardless of what kind of dependency it is.

Parenthood does work best with both parents helping each other, nobody disputes that. But who is society to dictate which parent earns the money while the other cares for the children? Let the couple decide for themselves, without state or control freak interference.

I'm a women in my forties, been what is considered conservative my whole life, leaning more libertarian in the past 8-12 years. My husband and I both have always volunteered in our community. We've raised two sons. One has been a volunteer EMT for three years. The other has been a volunteer firefighter since he was sixteen and became a volunteer EMT at eighteen so he is on two squads. Both are now in college, working and volunteering. I am emotional when it comes to helping the needy but I feel it should be our choice to help. The government only screws things up. I think most women want everyone to be taken care of but they don't see that having people rely on food stamps and welfare only keeps them in poverty. I also think women just believe what they hear and see without looking further into the details. My guess is its probably a combination of maternal instinct and lack of knowledge.

OF COURSE males and females are the same species! But they think differently, process 'emotion' differently, and so-on. Do you deny this? And of course we're all individuals, which why I added several disclaimers. But, I'm really concerned here with what's the norm among males and females, and the norm is indeed females IMO tend to be more prone to rigid thinking and ideologies. And if you look at many 'radical' groups [for this purpose I'll describe them as groups with rigid and often extreme ideology], they are generally top heavy with females. And regarding politics in America [and elsewhere], statistically females are far more likely to vote 'leftist' or liberal than males, in fact in America women are one of the core supporters of the Democratic party, and Democrats openly acknowledge they court them and ignore males.

Going 'rogue' is the opposite of group think, and it can be a good thing, and a bad thing, depends. But males in general are more prone to be individualistic than females.

Males BY NATURE are not particularly good care-givers. Nature doesn't design for this purpose. When people like you deny this simple fact of nature, or the simple fact males are more aggressive, think and process info and emotion differently than females, this is where we get into trouble. Nature knows best.

And your idea of harmony is a fraction of the population producing and the rest of the population sitting on their ass and collecting?

Men have ruled this planet for the last ten thousand years. It's high time for women to rule, so we can clean up the mess you guys have made of our EARTH!

Our civilization is predicated on morals, ethics, and taboos that I think many especially first world people [Europe,U.S./Canada, etc.] take for granted. But civilization as we know it is really still a thin veneer. It doesn't take much to break through that veneer [Katrina and New Orleans is a great example]. Absent what we call 'Civilization' [ethics, morals, taboos,etc.] males by their nature rule the roost. And nature doesn't design males to handle being 'held down' or subjugated very well at all.

Who says they all, without exception, "think differently, process 'emotion' differently, and so-on"? I absolutely DO deny this. You cannot tell a male brain from a female brain online unless they identify themselves; I and others have proved this hundreds of times over the years. It's a stereotype you believe in, not a fact of nature. Those individuals you admit defy the stereotypes are proof that the differences between male and female are far less than the differences among males and among females. Tendencies and statistics are no excuse for broad-brushing half the human race. Nobody will dictate to me how I must "act" or "play a role" just because of my genitalia.

And I challenge your alleged stats anyway.


Exceptions are numerous and refute your claims about "nature". What you really are talking about is averages, and these are heavily influenced by culture... which is NURTURE or environment, not biology. Many men are excellent caregivers, and many women are horrible caregivers. If it were NATURE there could never be any exceptions, let alone so many exceptions. Not all males are aggressive; not all females are passive. Denying this is pointless.

Absolutely! We cannot do worse; heck, monkeys couldn't do worse.

But then again, we'd be cleaning up after them, which we should not do because it makes them dependent. Let them clean up their own mess for a change.

"a partnership culture, and away from the ways of suppression and domination"

So why does socialism consistently have monopolies or near monopolies and also suppresses and dominates so much? it's also all controlled by a small group of people; hardly a partnership

Why are most, almost all, of the great philosophers, artists, musicians, mathematicians even, males? Even today, although females have caught up with males in the sciences and even surpassed them in academia, the really great musicians for example are still overwhelmingly male. Why?

Who actually builds the homes, offices, stores, vehicles, planes, airports, supermarkets, roads, etc., we all use every day? OVERWHELMINGLY males. Why?

If our military didn't exist [this is true not just for the U.S.] or we didn't have alliances with other militaries, we literally wouldn't even have the freedoms we have now. We live in a dangerous world, full of people who are envious, jealous or just out to take what they think is rightfully theirs or take what they need. There will always be conflict as long as human beings are the same as we've been since the beginning of time. Who make up the vast majority of militaries and law enforcement agencies? Males.

Now you can say males also commit the bulk of violence, which is true because nature designs males to be physically aggressive. But don't pretend females don't contribute and promote violence, because they very much do. They just tend to use language and psychological techniques.

Averages are all that's worth talking about. They are really all that matters. As for culture, in ALL cultures males are by nature more aggressive, especially physically, than females. There are of course exceptions, but they make the rule.

Of course it's ultimately about CONTROL. Control freaks love it. In fairness control freaks dominate the corporate world,also. All these ideologies are ultimately about control.

I couldn't disagree more. We are individuals, not a colony of ants. To limit or constrain individuals ONLY because of their genetics, whether skin color or gender, is a true crime against humanity. What you want is collectivism... which is what the OP claims is only true of women "naturally".

As for the ridiculous, ignorant statement "the exception proves the rule"...

That saying was created in a time when "to prove" meant "to test". Its meaning is now the opposite: to establish as true or factual. Ever hear the phrase "proving ground"? Do you think that means anything but "testing ground"?

The fact is that exceptions DISPROVE rules by "testing" them, such that if an exception is found then the rule is disproved.

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my mother is 67 and carries a Glock 20

she hates feminism...and will pack a hole in you if you try to mug her

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This one is not. A social conservative and economic moderate.

Do a search of the Canadian guy from Winnipeg whose penis was accidentally cut off during a botched circumcision. His parents were convinced by an [evil IMO] doctor to raise him as a girl, he told them he would never know the difference. They even gave him hormone treatment. Well, it didn't work. The poor guy always knew instinctively he was male/masculine, not female. His life was hell, especially high school. When he became a young adult, he reverted back to identifying as a male, and spoke publicly about what happened to him. But he could never deal with the pain of growing up the way he was forced to, and committed suicide at 35.

Males and females are of course the same species, but we're also different in many ways.

Bull. You're twisting my words.

Bull. You know I'm not.

This is easy. Women growing up mostly have no father in their lives which would balance their brains out between left and right. Men tend to use the logical analytic side of their brain, the left side. Women use the emotional creative side of their brain, the right side. When a child has both parents both sides of the brain are exercised and developed. With fathers absent, the female child is raised by her right brained mother, and the school system then fills in for the father which facilitates putting garbage in the child's head. This is one of the reasons the states want fathers out of children's lives.

THAT INDIVIDUAL was masculine. PEOPLE as individuals are different in many ways, among men as among women.

We're all human, and should be treated as such: let people decide for themselves how to act. This is not something for government or society to dictate.

More pop psychology blather. Both men and women use both sides of their brains, and there are MANY exceptions to these silly imaginary "facts".

This dead horse is thoroughly beaten.

LOL! Not true.

Women stop growing grey and white brain matter at puberty. Medical fact. Men keep growing it until much later in life. It's why chicks have a mental collapse when faced with something as simple as changing the oil.

No matter how smart a woman thinks she is, she will never have more aptitude than a 15 year old boy. Vetted medical fact.

Love this! Strong women doesn't have to mean weak men!

from a psychopaths point of view, it's a thing of beauty. on one hand, it gives them the power they seek. On the other, it's under the platitude of "helping the everyday person, the weak, etc" so it gets popular support. much better than bait and switch, it's poison advertised as medicine. and if the psychopaths aren't too greedy, they can just gradually implement more control over time eg add another degree or so of control and people will get acclimatized to it (it is supposed to be for their benefit after all) and then add another degree or so of control which people will get acclimatized to etc. it's evil genius

maybe it's different else where, but i needed both a biological father and biological mother

Woman here *raises hand*

I'm as conservative as you can get. I was a bit of a lefty when I was very young but I grew out of that stupidity fast.

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When you say "drop it", what are you referring to?

a) this would mean that not anyone could "drop it". for instance, a female can't
b) this still doesn't take away the biological necessity of a male and more importantly, the necessity of a father and mother geared towards raising a family.
c) 'Slow you?'
ad hominem fallacy and

'That is why so many men like to dress up and pretend to be them. From out gays to closeted "macho" republicans.'

is an ad hominem fallacy and a red herring fallacy. neither is a way to build an argument