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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
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When will Israel learn? Meanwhile the centrifuges keep on spinning in Iran.
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
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give him a chance -- there may be a larger plan he didn't tell you about
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Does anyone know if Syria could be involved in any of this?
If not, is the U.S still planning on something going on there soon like Libya?
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


give him a chance -- there may be a larger plan he didn't tell you about
 Quoting: Swinburnian


what plan would that be? to let a few thousand isreali citizens die before they get the idea that you have to wipe out Hamas and the terrorists factions to get peace?
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


give him a chance -- there may be a larger plan he didn't tell you about
 Quoting: Swinburnian


what plan would that be? to let a few thousand isreali citizens die before they get the idea that you have to wipe out Hamas and the terrorists factions to get peace?
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he didn't tell me, either. but watch.
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


When will Israel learn? Meanwhile the centrifuges keep on spinning in Iran.
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Yep

`The world watches Gaza, while Iran readies.

Last week Iran removed the reactor core,,,,, any word on why? I have not been able to find any info
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a ceasefire from Israel right now or at any point in the near future would be a political disaster in my mind, there is no way Hamas will ever keep their word, it will simply be another "reloading" period.

If bibi goes ahead with this he's not the leader I thought he was and I feel it perhaps would be best to elect someone else to prime minister in the coming election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


When will Israel learn? Meanwhile the centrifuges keep on spinning in Iran.
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Egypt: Israel-Hamas truce at 9 pm




[link to www.ynetnews.com]



On Bibi's checlist for Iran:
REDUCE HAMAS ABILITY TO ATTACK ISRAEL WHEN IRAN IS HIT (A BIG CHECK.)

Next on the list:
Take out Hezbollah missile stocks . . . this will not be so easy and likely would have to happen at the same time as the atatck on Iran.
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Egypt: Israel-Hamas truce at 9 pm




[link to www.ynetnews.com]



On Bibi's checlist for Iran:
REDUCE HAMAS ABILITY TO ATTACK ISRAEL WHEN IRAN IS HIT (A BIG CHECK.)

Next on the list:
Take out Hezbollah missile stocks . . . this will not be so easy and likely would have to happen at the same time as the atatck on Iran.
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Have they already reduced Hamas' ability to attack Israel or are you referring to another step not yet taken?
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Egypt: Israel-Hamas truce at 9 pm




[link to www.ynetnews.com]



On Bibi's checlist for Iran:
REDUCE HAMAS ABILITY TO ATTACK ISRAEL WHEN IRAN IS HIT (A BIG CHECK.)

Next on the list:
Take out Hezbollah missile stocks . . . this will not be so easy and likely would have to happen at the same time as the atatck on Iran.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Have they already reduced Hamas' ability to attack Israel or are you referring to another step not yet taken?
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They have reduced the number of rockets by at least the 1000 or so that ahve already been launched lol. They too did deplete the reserve stock, take out some bad guys that were part of their hit list, and controlled the ability of Hamas to re-stock over the next several months. NOW, the clock ticks for Iran and very quickly I must note.
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Egypt: Israel-Hamas truce at 9 pm




[link to www.ynetnews.com]



On Bibi's checlist for Iran:
REDUCE HAMAS ABILITY TO ATTACK ISRAEL WHEN IRAN IS HIT (A BIG CHECK.)

Next on the list:
Take out Hezbollah missile stocks . . . this will not be so easy and likely would have to happen at the same time as the atatck on Iran.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Have they already reduced Hamas' ability to attack Israel or are you referring to another step not yet taken?
 Quoting: lukeagain


They have reduced the number of rockets by at least the 1000 or so that ahve already been launched lol. They too did deplete the reserve stock, take out some bad guys that were part of their hit list, and controlled the ability of Hamas to re-stock over the next several months. NOW, the clock ticks for Iran and very quickly I must note.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Cool
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it had better be part of a plan to attack Iran or else this will go down as one of the biggest blunders in history
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Blast sounds in northern city


A blast has sounded in the Metula region. The IDF is looking into the possibility that it emanated from a Katyusha rocket. (Yoav Zitun)
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I have copy of Survival Tips for Civilians Caught in Urban Combat Zones...

It's only a couple of pages....It's about how to avoid getting shot, and how to alert rescuers (bullets flying survival tips rather than prepper tips)

Can't post link...DM me and I'll find another way to get it to you if anyone is interested...

My Twitter feed says explosion in Northern Gaza at 9:04
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AND CEASE FIRE BEGINS . . .


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AND CEASE FIRE BEGINS . . .


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it was code red in beersheva a minute before the ceasefire took effect
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I have copy of Survival Tips for Civilians Caught in Urban Combat Zones...

It's only a couple of pages....It's about how to avoid getting shot, and how to alert rescuers (bullets flying survival tips rather than prepper tips)

Can't post link...DM me and I'll find another way to get it to you if anyone is interested...
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I'd like to check it out...can't pm but steve/mm/zilla have my email

on your topic Darby this is another good one
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And so Israel buys into a cease fire while its 7000o reserve troops do what? They are getting some good prepping in for the real thing, they are training for the Iranian/Hezbollah attack on Israel. How soon Bibi releases the reserves is something to watch! Israel was prepared to attack Iran last December. Why not this December?
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AND CEASE FIRE BEGINS . . .


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it was code red in beersheva a minute before the ceasefire took effect
 Quoting: Swinburnian


ashdod -- my mistake
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OF COURSE we can expect a few more missiles to be fired and a few more Israeli retaliatory hits.

They are just trying to get some tr tr trac tract traction but it is a slippery slope.
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What Israel Got in Return for Agreeing to Cease Fire...

...Obama told Netanyahu that the United States will use the opportunity offered by a cease-fire to intensify efforts to help Israel address its security needs, especially the smuggling of weapons and explosives into Gaza, the White House said in a statement.

Obama also spoke to Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi and thanked him for his efforts to achieve the agreement, as well as his personal leadership in negotiating the proposal....

In his call with Netanyahu, Obama said he would seek more money for a defense system known as Iron Dome that has protected Israel from rocket attacks, the White House said...

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Air raid sirens sound in south despite ceasefire
(21:21 , 11.21.12)


Lieberman: We did excellent job with Gaza op
(21:19 , 11.21.12)

3 rockets hit Negev minutes before ceasefire takes effect
(21:16 , 11.21.12)

4 rockets fired on Beersheba; 1 intercepted
(21:13 , 11.21.12)

Barak: Gaza operation's goals acheive
(21:08 , 11.21.12)

PM: Harsher operation in Gaza might be required in future
(21:05 , 11.21.12)
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explosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionTankrocketdoomsolexplosionexplosionexplosionrocketrocketrocketrocket

Just getting a little carried away with the cease fire.

Furious missile barrage from Gaza DEBKAfile November 21, 2012, 8:46 PM (GMT+02:00)
Palestinian terrorists took advantage of last hour before the ceasefire to rain missiles from all directions on Israeli towns and villages. There were hits to three buildings. No casualties. The IAF then struck back at rocket teams.

On the northern border, two shells landed near the Israeli town of Metulla from the Lebanese village of Kila.
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Netanyahu Makes Ceasefire Statement, Hints at Iran



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L O L

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Three rockets exploded in open areas in the Eshkol Regional Council a short while after 9 pm, when a ceasefire between Gaza and Israel was set to take effect. No injuries or damage were reported. (Ilana Curiel)

L O L
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PM: Cease-fire will allow Israelis to get back to routine

[link to www.jpost.com]

L O L
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Netanyahu Makes Ceasefire Statement, Hints at Iran



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 Quoting: MIL MAN


he's a bigger idiot than O is right now, and I didn't think he could be topped either
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So, lets make a little bet here: the winner gets a karma point:

Within what time will there be the next rocket hitting Israel from Gaza, starting now ?

My bet is, next rocket tomorrow during the first 2 truce days, Thursday tomorrow or Friday.

Who is betting ???

:Hi_1:
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So, lets make a little bet here: the winner gets a karma point:

Within what time will there be the next rocket hitting Israel from Gaza, starting now ?

My bet is, next rocket tomorrow during the first 2 truce days, Thursday tomorrow or Friday.

Who is betting ???

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In the next hour.





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