Jesus is Coming Back for His Bride without Spot or Wrinkle

sounds like a maytag commercial

Oh ok so some people decided to pick and choose who has authority and who doesnt?

Only reason why St. Augustine converted from Manichaeism is because it was going to be outlawed.

Like you do?

Exactly. I look at all sources and don't limit myself to the books Constantine allowed into the bible.

The competitive spirit in us drives us to compare and to complain.

Contentment is hard to attain--it is not natural for any of us.

When I face difficulties, I trust in God and He teaches me to be content in every predicament.

What a wonderful Savior!

Historically the first churches were started by people who knew Jesus directly.
Historically the books of the new testament were not all in use by any of the early churches.
The early churches all were considered separate and each had different sets of scriptures.
Historically a roman emperor ordered a council to unite all of the churches.
This unified church was the roman catholic church.
The roman catholic church is the force who dictated what books were included in the new testament.
All other current Christian churches have spawned from the catholic church, mostly from the efforts of the first protestants.
The catholic church glorifies Mary almost more than Jesus.
If the heathen Bible of the roman empire had not been created the original christian churches would still survive to this day.
All would know Jesus in a more personal way than as words in the heathen Bible.

During the first three hundred years after Jesus’ death, there was a split in Christianity. This was at a time when Emperor Constantine chose Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire. In both versions of Christianity, the trinity (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) was used to express the basic principles of the religion. In each version, the Father represented consciousness, the Son reason or thinking, and the Holy Ghost represented creativity (a piece of God within you).

The “Gnostic” Christians (i.e. Manichaeism) believed that thinking was a process used by consciousness to communicate and to plan your activities, etc. It must always be balanced with creativity so that the thinking process does not become rigid.

This was expressed as “The Bridal Chamber”, in which the bride (creativity) and groom (thinking) were united and balanced within the larger space of the room (pure consciousness). And so they explained that the Father “begets” the “Son” and is not the same as the “Son”.

The “Apostolic” Christians believed that thinking is the same as consciousness – that there is no other state of consciousness than thinking. Creativity is also thinking. Everything is thinking. They expressed this as the Son IS the Father or “Jesus is God”.

Emperor Constantine called for a conference in the city of Nicaea in 323 AD to settle these differences. The emperor set himself up as the moderator. Now, using our thinking minds to good advantage, which version would an empire, needing to keep control over vast numbers of people of many different cultures, choose as the “correct” version of Christianity? If thinking was the only version of consciousness considered legitimate, and the Roman Empire and the Apostolics provided a list of approved thoughts, then that inconvenient factor of creativity could be eliminated.

It is easier to control people whose minds all conform. To this day it is hard to convince people that there is another state of consciousness other than thinking. The state of consciousness which is controlled by the thinking process is one dimensional. Each thought follows the other, one by one.

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Same thing I do. And no, Constantine did not invent the canon, but merely wanted the churches to make it official.

But you missed my point: you too accept as true or authoritative ancient writings, yet you think that only the Bible is to be rejected or that anyone who accepts it is worshiping it. Double standard.

I don't know what sources you're using, but the churches did NOT have separate scriptures. They were united in following "the teachings of the apostles", and the letters were shared among them so each one knew what was written to the others. Their unity was not by a human central authority but by the Holy Spirit.

And again, people who denounce the Bible will answer for it.

It is our soul purpose is to help save souls-thanks KoFFee

Now you're just making assumptions. I accept all ancient writings.

I don't think that only the Bible is to be rejected or that anyone who accepts it is worshipping it. What nonsense.

You're right, Constantine didn't invent the Canon, but it was under his authority that the Catholic church created it.

I have no problem with the Bible. It doesn't bother me in the least bit, including antything that people try to prove as contradictory. It's an inspired book, no doubt about that. I think the confusion comes in when people call the Bible the Word of God. Jesus in fact is the Word of God. The Bible points us to Jesus, it's about Jesus. And this is the exact thing that I thought the OP was touching on, that it's about Jesus, and when we argue about this and that or about you're right / I'm right, we begin to miss the whole point...Jesus.

Coming to a neighborhood near you....

Jesus!

Why do you only start with Constantine? Read Philip Schaff's history and see how the roots of falsehood were planted at least a hundred years earlier, such that Constantine only put the official Roman stamp of approval on what the churches had already held to be true. And your reinterpretations of concepts derived from the scriptures themselves are not Constantine's invention either. ADDED: Gnosticism was opposed by the apostles.

I've read the history, and you need to go back farther.

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If not for the Bible and all you had were stories of the man from Galilee, what would you do to be right with God?
Just think about it let the thought digest and God will shine a light on you, and make you a light unto the world.

Yeah they had seperate scriptures. I don't know what sources YOU are using.

"people who denounce the Bible will answer for it" - Don't judge me. Typical Christian.

You need to keep on reading then. You completely missed the point.

doesn't the word say to follow -the spirit-? again souls forget a lot especially who they are and what speaks out of arks ...

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THIS

If it's inspired, it's the Word of God. Yes, Jesus is the Word, but only John uses that term for Him, and the inspiration of the scriptures is affirmed by the apostles such as Peter, who even called Paul's writing "scripture".

Jesus is indeed the point, but we only know that because of the written record of his life. The "teachings of the apostles" were what the first believers followed as well, because they were trained by Jesus Himself and thus could speak/write authoritatively. So it's important to know what the Bible does, and does not, say, to prevent false teachings that nullify or hide the only Way, Truth, and Life.

People have died for love of the written Word; to say this is wrong is to insult their sacrifice.

"If you love me, keep my commandments."

-- Jesus

No, I think you missed the point and need to keep reading.

Jesus is my Savior and my God, with whom I commune 24/7, and whose return I await eagerly. If that isn't good enough for you, then you truly have missed the most important point of all.

"Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

Gospel of Thomas

No, the point is that religion is control. You are not a slave.

I can speak from personal experience that I came to God and Jesus Christ after thinking critically. Take a look at the world we live in and tell me the Devil isn't running the show. Take a gander at free masons/ufos/occult/and conspiracy in general. It all leads to demons... Just look at the signs hidden in plain sight.

I don't care what the so-called gospel of Thomas has written in it. I also don't know how you can't see the double standard of appealing to ancient writings while trashing the Bible because it's merely an ancient writing.

Clearly we aren't communicating. At all.

poor lost souls who forget their spirit and that we who share the spirit have authority over the creation...that sea of forgetfulness gets us every time we incarnate into the creation...some just sleep longer but others sleep right through the present incarnation and think their beasts in need of a master and savior...pssssssssst that's what surface dogma-n training does for those who forget and dont have their spirit bring back all remembrance of mistranslations and such of the creation..forgetful dogma-n trained souls mistranslated the word for other souls but the spirit sees through the veils cast upon the eyes aka the wool that has been pulled over the sheeples eyes who forget and sleep and have division within their ark that manifests in the creation also as division..

It was actually the other way around for me. I had been a protestant turned devout Catholic at one point, so I always chuckle at people saying "Catholics worship Mary" and all this other nonsense.

Then I had come to realize that Religion was control. Once I deprogrammed myself from everything I thought I knew, an entire world opened up for me.

Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas:

"Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you."

According to the book Peter was a fisherman in a time when most were illiterate, how would he be able to write being a simple fisherman?
Yes they died for the written word, therefore they did not die for Jesus, but a book.