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US Economy Adds Only 114K Jobs; Unemployment Now 7.8%... Total Employment 'Highest One-Month Jump In 29 years' & Right Before Election!!

 
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[link to www.shadowstats.com]

This has been going on for a long time with unemployment and especially inflation.

John Williams has unemployment at around 23%.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Keep an eye on [link to www.shadowstats.com]

John Williams uses old calculation methods and keeps track of the numbers himself so he isn't relying on constant govt. revisions.
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Nice! The BLS numbers are about as insignificant as the stock market. It's fun watching Rome fall huh?

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Perhaps more...hopefully Santa will bring us a 0.0% rate for christmas. Heck at the rate labor participation is dropping...it's possible.

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Silly Martial, only the Easter Bunny brings Goose eggs. chuckle

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Nice! The BLS numbers are about as insignificant as the stock market. It's fun watching Rome fall huh?

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Hi Nick!!!

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link?

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stfu
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are you kidding? I don't think this has ever NOT happened.

BTW labor participation rate is at decade lows.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


This
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Does not account for the people who have fallen off the rolls, given up or have accepted crappy part time jobs in Halloween Stores or for Christmas ramp up.

Holiday ramp up begins in September to have people to help with getting the stock in & getting them trained before the Christmas shopping kicks in around early November.
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I'm sorry, can you repeat that Jane? I'm having a very tough time concentrating on account of your avatar.

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Nice! The BLS numbers are about as insignificant as the stock market. It's fun watching Rome fall huh?

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Not having fun, but then again we have been watching the slo-mo train wreck for a while now.

They just have to keep the spin going to prevent the stampede.
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are you kidding? I don't think this has ever NOT happened.

BTW labor participation rate is at decade lows.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


This
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Does not account for the people who have fallen off the rolls, given up or have accepted crappy part time jobs in Halloween Stores or for Christmas ramp up.

Holiday ramp up begins in September to have people to help with getting the stock in & getting them trained before the Christmas shopping kicks in around early November.
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I'm sorry, can you repeat that Jane? I'm having a very tough time concentrating on account of your avatar.

HOT

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I know that is you fav of my pics!!

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Nice! The BLS numbers are about as insignificant as the stock market. It's fun watching Rome fall huh?

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 Quoting: Nickadeemus


Not having fun, but then again we have been watching the slo-mo train wreck for a while now.

They just have to keep the spin going to prevent the stampede.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Isn't it interesting to see the wheels on the train go round and round solely due to the complete sweet oblivion of most of the populace? I'm having a real battle in my own head watching the insanity continue unabated. It's actually tough to sit back and watch with real indifference. I'm a sore looser by the way. Can you tell?

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Is there a list of actual created jobs? The only things Im seeing built are Arbys, Walmarts etc. Im sure the rest of the jobs are tax paid federal employees.

You either work for them or make less than $10.00 an hour.
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Nice! The BLS numbers are about as insignificant as the stock market. It's fun watching Rome fall huh?

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thinkin
 Quoting: Nickadeemus


Not having fun, but then again we have been watching the slo-mo train wreck for a while now.

They just have to keep the spin going to prevent the stampede.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Isn't it interesting to see the wheels on the train go round and round solely due to the complete sweet oblivion of most of the populace? I'm having a real battle in my own head watching the insanity continue unabated. It's actually tough to sit back and watch with real indifference. I'm a sore looser by the way. Can you tell?

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LOL!

I just think of the time as gift to continue to get ready. Besides, I need to get the ankle back in top form before things get nasty.
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How's the pillar Janie? Feeling better? Healing up?

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Is there a list of actual created jobs? The only things Im seeing built are Arbys, Walmarts etc. Im sure the rest of the jobs are tax paid federal employees.

You either work for them or make less than $10.00 an hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2679163


Chart of labor underutilization

[link to www.bls.gov]
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How's the pillar Janie? Feeling better? Healing up?

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Much better. Still cannot land on it after jump spin kicks without pain, but that will likely ease with another week.
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Is there a list of actual created jobs? The only things Im seeing built are Arbys, Walmarts etc. Im sure the rest of the jobs are tax paid federal employees.

You either work for them or make less than $10.00 an hour.
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Chart of labor underutilization

[link to www.bls.gov]
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bls stands for bullshit labor statistics-btw.

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Is there a list of actual created jobs? The only things Im seeing built are Arbys, Walmarts etc. Im sure the rest of the jobs are tax paid federal employees.

You either work for them or make less than $10.00 an hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2679163


Chart of labor underutilization

[link to www.bls.gov]
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


bls stands for bullshit labor statistics-btw.

chuckle

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True that

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How's the pillar Janie? Feeling better? Healing up?

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Much better. Still cannot land on it after jump spin kicks without pain, but that will likely ease with another week.
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You can't land on it after jump spin kicks? Softie. Cowgirl the eff up wouldja? Dude, you broke your friggin ankle. Why are are you even considering doing jump spin kicks? Ju Loco Esse. Loco!

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Doesn't make sense, but the timing is ironic...
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DOW will be over 14,100 by election...or in other words new record highs.

Obama gets re-elected.

THEN the shtf. I believe THIS is the 'false flag'...just more data fudging. Watch europe in late nov/dec.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


If this is so, then a smart person with a few bucks should be able to set themselves up pretty well for the post shtf scenario. Meaning, use their system to make a bunch of fiat fast, then convert into tangible goods.
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How's the pillar Janie? Feeling better? Healing up?

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Much better. Still cannot land on it after jump spin kicks without pain, but that will likely ease with another week.
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You can't land on it after jump spin kicks? Softie. Cowgirl the eff up wouldja? Dude, you broke your friggin ankle. Why are are you even considering doing jump spin kicks? Ju Loco Esse. Loco!

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Cannot risk losing range of movement. It was just the fibula -- the little bone on the outside of the ankle. Can't loose my ability to break boards in 5 inch heels, lol!

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Doesn't make sense, but the timing is ironic...
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DOW will be over 14,100 by election...or in other words new record highs.

Obama gets re-elected.

THEN the shtf. I believe THIS is the 'false flag'...just more data fudging. Watch europe in late nov/dec.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


If this is so, then a smart person with a few bucks should be able to set themselves up pretty well for the post shtf scenario. Meaning, use their system to make a bunch of fiat fast, then convert into tangible goods.
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Fast tangible conversion will be the key.
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Doesn't make sense, but the timing is ironic...
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DOW will be over 14,100 by election...or in other words new record highs.

Obama gets re-elected.

THEN the shtf. I believe THIS is the 'false flag'...just more data fudging. Watch europe in late nov/dec.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


If this is so, then a smart person with a few bucks should be able to set themselves up pretty well for the post shtf scenario. Meaning, use their system to make a bunch of fiat fast, then convert into tangible goods.
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Yes, but that would be sensible use of information. We don't do that here. You must be new...

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How's the pillar Janie? Feeling better? Healing up?

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Much better. Still cannot land on it after jump spin kicks without pain, but that will likely ease with another week.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith



You can't land on it after jump spin kicks? Softie. Cowgirl the eff up wouldja? Dude, you broke your friggin ankle. Why are are you even considering doing jump spin kicks? Ju Loco Esse. Loco!

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Cannot risk losing range of movement. It was just the fibula -- the little bone on the outside of the ankle. Can't loose my ability to break boards in 5 inch heels, lol!

Jane w/ Tigers
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That is so emasculating. I wanna break boards in 5 inch heels!!!! Wait...ummmm....hang on...

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the part i REALLY love is where they found out that govt added 67,000 new jobs when it had been thought there were losses..I mean really they are not even trying to cover the lies, its almost like they sit around thinking " hey, how fucked up can we make these numbers and our base still buys it! " I mean lets think, after the debate there were about 25% on average in polls who thought Obama actually won...so Im guessing they could have said the unemployment rate dropped to 5% and those same people would say HELL YEA GO OBAMA!....all that matters now is what the last 5-10% of independents and undecided think, just PRAY they dont buy numbers like this or we r screwed!
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Let's hope that they don't waste their votes on Ron Paul either!

The theory that Obama and Romney are the same is obviously propaganda provided by the left to make you feel like you would be wasting time by voting. They want people to stay home.
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Notice the similarities between the "Constellation" Employment Charts logo and Obama's "Change" logo.

[link to www.cbrands.com]
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crock of shit.

The revised numbers will show it higher. This is the same trick they have been playing for a few years now.
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link?

or

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1413118


are you kidding? I don't think this has ever NOT happened.

BTW labor participation rate is at decade lows.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


This is the game we always get to watch. I'm curiouse.. If this is the case why are they not advertising the so called companies that created all these jobs.. You would think that their platform would eat that PR up...
 Quoting: Nlightened


crock of shit.

The revised numbers will show it higher. This is the same trick they have been playing for a few years now.
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link?

or

stfu
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are you kidding? I don't think this has ever NOT happened.

BTW labor participation rate is at decade lows.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


This is the game we always get to watch. I'm curiouse.. If this is the case why are they not advertising the so called companies that created all these jobs.. You would think that their platform would eat that PR up...
 Quoting: Nlightened


True, they can come out with these numbers, but why can't they provide the American public with the exact (not fucking fake seasonally adjusted) jobs that were created and what company, position, the hourly wage and the name of the person or persons who supposedly obtained these jobs.

C'mon people, it's time for the torches and the pitchforks, we are being lied to right in front of our faces and the MSM idiots are going along with this farce when they should be asking these very questions. How much more of this shit are we going to take? It's time for action! Get rid of the fake seasonally adjust BS and bullshit surveys and provide the American People with real numbers!
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Doesn't make sense, but the timing is ironic...
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DOW will be over 14,100 by election...or in other words new record highs.

Obama gets re-elected.

THEN the shtf. I believe THIS is the 'false flag'...just more data fudging. Watch europe in late nov/dec.
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Everything is a false flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How STUPID have we become. DOOM DOOM DOOM everywhere DOOM!!! More like DUMB DUMB DUMB
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You obviously want to believe in our Fearless Leader.

HOWEVER.

These numbers just don't make any sense.
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Doesn't make sense, but the timing is ironic...
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DOW will be over 14,100 by election...or in other words new record highs.

Obama gets re-elected.

THEN the shtf. I believe THIS is the 'false flag'...just more data fudging. Watch europe in late nov/dec.
 Quoting: MARTIAL_LAW


Everything is a false flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How STUPID have we become. DOOM DOOM DOOM everywhere DOOM!!! More like DUMB DUMB DUMB
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21102346


You obviously want to believe in our Fearless Leader.

HOWEVER.

These numbers just don't make any sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25002222



Show me anything that does make sense....

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Don't forget the biggest 3 year rise
in the stock market in modern history.
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The real unemployment number is around 30%-33%
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It's real, dumbasses.

For one thing, the Bureau of Labor Statistics isn’t currently run by a political appointee. For most of Obama’s term, the commissioner was a Bush holdover. The current acting commissioner John Gavin is a career BLS economist, not an Obama appointee.

The underlying data behind the BLS reports is also publicly released and used by analysts across the private sector and academia, meaning a conspiracy would have to survive scrutiny from trained economists of all political stripes.
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BLS = Bogus LIberal Strategy

The fact that economists and analysts are even questioning these numbers should be an indication that something is going on.

YEP, they (anylists, economists) are busy scrutinizing and they are calling these numbers BULL$h!t

links...

[link to hotair.com]


[link to mediamatters.org]

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

[link to money.cnn.com]

BLS donors to Obama...

[link to freebeacon.com]

Something is NOT right here!
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can't be bothered to read all of the posts.

Unemployment rate determined by household survey.

Jobs gained/lost done by BLS.

2 different measurements.

Likely both are BS and 'massaged'

So 114k jobs is a BLS number and increase of 580k jobs is survey. Again, both are BS.

Finally, the 7.8% is not total unemployment rate. An easy way to get the unemployment rate to 0% is to fire full time workers and hire back 2x as many part time, and the unemployment rate will go to zero. Does that make anything better?

PS: I am a canuck, and I hate Romney, but I hate this BS we are being handed even more. (Romney would be doing the same if in power)





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