Ground Under Fukushima Unit 4 is Sinking — Now in danger of collapse!!!! | |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 10/07/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In order to build the plant - originally only Unit 1 - the upper sedimentary layers were excavated. These are Quaternary alluvial deposits composed of clay and sand which are friable or semi-hard (green and brown in the cross-section). Thus the plant was built on "mudrock" type sedimentary rock (yellow in the cross-section), which is a muddy rock composed of clay and silt (very fine sand). But the term "muddy" does not mean that the rock is soft. It simply means that it is a rock whose matrix is clay; it is also called "argillite". Source: [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr] [link to a34.idata.over-blog.com] This report is much better... Lying by omission is still lying.. in case you are keeping track. I am... The Geology of Fukushima [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr] [snip] The first paper brings together two cross-sections of the ground at the site of the future plant: one east-west, another north-south. Based on this document, backed by a photo of the site before construction (1966), we realize that the coast was originally rocky and that the sedimentary plateau has been excavated in order to achieve the earthwork for the construction of the nuclear plant. As anticipated in the cross-section (marked by the dotted red line), the excavation lowers the ground to 10 meters above the sea and the digging of the basement is below sea level. In several of these cross-sections, an ancient fault, predating the later Miocene, is clearly visible under the nuclear site. Whereas the geological survey conducted prior to the construction of the plant does not reveal this fault (drilling did not go beyond a depth of 200 meters at the time), it is clear from the documents dated 2009 and 2010 that Tepco and the NSC have known about it for several years. One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain. This groundwater, he claims, is flowing under the plain towards the sea at a very low speed of about 50 cm / day (3). And finally, there is the problem of the type of rock on which the plant was built being rather "soft", meaning that an earthquake can only destabilize the buildings. |
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THE Professor ! User ID: 24513996 United States 10/07/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Atom PLOY .... Answering with GENERALITIES AGAIN ! Never said it fuel pool 4 would be upside down either. Just MORE obfuscation to 'Muddy the waters', obscure the FACTS. With a four to five story drop it would SMASH to pieces and NEVER be able to hold water OR the fuel inside, as YOU well know, fool ! |
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ehecatl User ID: 25079881 Mexico 10/07/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mitsuhei Murata, Former Japanese Ambassador to Switzerland: Due to its ground has been sinking, Unit 4 is now endangered in collapse. [...] According to secretary of former Prime Minister Kan, the ground level of the building has been sinking 80 cm [31.5 inches] unevenly. Because the ground itself has the problem, whether the building can resist a quake bigger than M6 still remains a question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22108583 Last Edited by ehecatl on 10/07/2012 03:22 PM |
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the mighty Atom User ID: 23715861 Japan 10/07/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [snip] Quoting: Waterbug One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain. Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 10/07/2012 03:24 PM G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25062401 United Kingdom 10/07/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for the ppl who still 'feel' here -dont bother responding to the senseless shills from such location -their manipulative deathist manner shows their emptiness, so no point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25062401 What are Fraggle you are! People like you see the World with blinkered Eye's! interesting you bothered to respond interesting i bothered.. lol its all coming back man, trust |
Myron Goldblatt User ID: 16674316 United States 10/07/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bedrock is not sinking. Nothing to worry about other than a lack of cooling to the Fuel Rods for a period of 100 hours or more after a collapse. Not likely, even if the trimmed down building collapses violently. You just erect a dam around the collapsed building and fill it up with water. |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 10/07/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In order to build the plant - originally only Unit 1 - the upper sedimentary layers were excavated. These are Quaternary alluvial deposits composed of clay and sand which are friable or semi-hard (green and brown in the cross-section). Thus the plant was built on "mudrock" type sedimentary rock (yellow in the cross-section), which is a muddy rock composed of clay and silt (very fine sand). But the term "muddy" does not mean that the rock is soft. It simply means that it is a rock whose matrix is clay; it is also called "argillite". Source: [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr] [link to a34.idata.over-blog.com] The Geology of Fukushima [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr] [snip] One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain. I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock.. I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock. Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone. |
the mighty Atom User ID: 23715861 Japan 10/07/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock.. I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock. Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone. But it is not "MUDROCK"! The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this because we had this Discussion already Months ago! Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 10/07/2012 03:29 PM G.Y.!B.E. |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 10/07/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock.. I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock. Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone. But it is not "MUDROCK"! The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this because we had this Discussion already Months ago! You mean the discussion in which I introduced you to the term..? You had never heard of it.. |
MoonChildChazz User ID: 25135479 United States 10/07/2012 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spent rods did burn threw the crust then hit the water table. So some ground stability could sink somewhat. They probably filled those areas with lead adding more weight. Mexico city is also sinking a couple inches a year. Chazz |
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the mighty Atom User ID: 23715861 Japan 10/07/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock.. I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock. Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone. But it is not "MUDROCK"! The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this because we had this Discussion already Months ago! You mean the discussion in which I introduced you to the term..? You had never heard of it.. Okay, you won! Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 10/07/2012 03:56 PM G.Y.!B.E. |
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Relativity User ID: 1533848 United States 10/07/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybee we can teleport it to Iran. They want a nuke facility.....lets give them one.. A gift.. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Relativity User ID: 1533848 United States 10/07/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5* and a Nice post waterbug... “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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uh oh User ID: 25101733 United States 10/07/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami. We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story. His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US. Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly? Is it because of the subject of this thread? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24298412 United Kingdom 10/07/2012 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't read the thread yet, but want to tell you. Quoting: uh oh 25101733 My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami. We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story. His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US. Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly? Is it because of the subject of this thread? ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh you will wake up the dolphin punchers |
the mighty Atom User ID: 23715861 Japan 10/07/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't read the thread yet, but want to tell you. Quoting: uh oh 25101733 My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami. We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story. His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US. Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly? Is it because of the subject of this thread? ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh you will wake up the dolphin punchers What is with all the Americans in Yokusuka Base, do the US Government let them die and save only the Room-mates Nephew? G.Y.!B.E. |
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