Church goers challenge )))))) Religious Thread.))How educated are you on who you vote for??Not an endorsement thread

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BETTER than a KNOWN illegal alien, FRAUD, LIAR and Muslim !

Oh my, thanks

I lived in Salt Lake City and ran a business there.

I do not believe what the Mormons believe, but the one thing I learned there is that they are in general good, honest, hard working people.

The one thing that stands out to me now that I live in south Florida is the honesty part.

With a Mormon, a handshake deal was as good as a ten page written contract, whereas here, a ten page written contract won't even do.

Yes a very broken system we have

See, I am trying to understand this train of thought "I do not believe what the Mormons believe, but "

I'm not Morman but in this election I will choose a Mormon over a Muslim.

At least the Morman does not deny what his religious background is.

See this thread is already losing it's purpose , this was a challenge to attend the church that will rule the country, not one reply to this yet????

i am kind of surprised that the obama campaign hasnt played the mormon card already

Yes , it angers me...

Why you not tell people to also go to Obama's 'Church' of racists and Muslims?

OP, you say you have been in many different denominations.

Mormonism is not a Christian denomination. It is not even Christian because it has its own Bible, and its own teachings attributed to its own made up version of God and the Messiah.

Mormonism is not even in the Judaeo/Christian tradition.

The Bible gives many examples of Kings in Israel were expected to behave, and the protocols by which they were chosen.

Above all, these protocols were democratic. Just as the LORD enntered into a mutually voluntary covenant with Israel, the king ruled by the consent of the people.

When the people acclaimed a king, that person was first annointed by a prophet and then invited to sit on a pile of clan robes given by the clan leaders of Israel. Jesus followed this procedure, except the prophet was Magdalene, and the robes were piled on the donkey that was bred from the stock of Abraham and Moses' donkey. Jesus rode into Jerusalem with the full authority of the clans and tribes of Israel.

When a king lost the acclamation of the people, as David did when he fled Jerusalem during Absalom's revolt, he lost the power. David would not allow Avishai to kill Saul's relative who shouted insults at him as he fled. David aknowledged that his aurthority was gone.

The Mormon Jesus does not play by Gods rules for kings (See the hebrew commentaries Hilkoth haMalkim - Rules for Kings. He comes with power and vast destructive force, unelected but chosen sent from on high. He is more like a fucking American President than a benevolent king and shepherd.

Yes , it angers me...

Why you not tell people to also go to Obama's 'Church' of racists and Muslims?
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I try and be fair so this is what i know
In March 2010, Obama confirmed in an exclusive interview with Today's Matt Lauer, that he and his family would not be joining a congregation in Washington. Rather, the Obamas had adopted Evergreen Chapel at Camp David as their "favorite place to worship" as a family. Obama told Lauer, "What we've decided for now is not to join a single church, and the reason is because Michelle and I have realized we are very disruptive to services." (Read more ...)

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I also like Obama did not grow up with parents that did not attend church so that is why I am comfortable with most denominations

That's a road they don't want to go down after there are numerous videos of him quoting "the holy qur'an." They then would have to defend their "beliefs" against every form of religion or thought and that is a no-win battle.

I 'tried' Seven Day Adventist Church, Jewish Temple, and others in 1980, when I was searching for the 'true religion' that meshed with what the KJ version
of the bible showed me.

General result ...... They all want you IN, and then you begin to get their slant or way that is different. The rabbi just plain out and asked me if I was Jewish. I said no, I'm of the the tribe of Israel. Much scoffing, and looks of scorn. Next !

I doubt ONE visit to any church will enable one to understand their 'view' of what religion is OR, what they ACTUALLY practice.

Peace.

Eagle

Yes I know that is why the challenge

I will repeat the thread is a challenge to go to the church you are voting for either side, simple as that

like we really have a choice obama evil evil, or romney evil. Pick the one with the least evil

Sorry Op, but I couldn't vote for either cadidate, even if I held my nose lol.

I believe your intentions are good, but I truly don't think our votes really count. TPTB know who they have chosen to lead us into their NWO. I stopped believing in their show that they put on through the Media that they also control.

Soon God will put an end to their demonic schemes.

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people just arent going to do that OP.

especially those of us who arent religious

Thomas Hoefling

"Soon God will put an end to their demonic schemes. "
Yes time is speeding up

I see that
I had to try

I appreciate the honesty of this thread.

I want to share my experience with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

My Mother received a copy of the Book of Mormon when she was in her early thirties from a friend. She took some time and read the book. At one point it just settled into her heart, she felt strongly no one man was smart enough to write this book. She was struck that it WAS scripture.

We lived with my Grandparents at the time, the very mention of the church would send a quick BITTERNESS through my Grandmother. Grandmother was not any religion nor spiritual, why the bitterness?

After a a year or so we moved, the missionaries knocked on our door and to their astonishment we welcomed them inside.

Those Missionaries forever changed me. They taught us how to pray, for the first time EVER my family prayed out loud together. I heard my parents express love in ways never before experienced. My parents gave up things like alcohol, coffee and rated R movies. We were VERY happy.

I have had a Bishop litterely save me from a life path of destruction. After getting married in the Temple, I have had another Bishop litterely save my marriage.

While visiting a Temple I was told through a small voice of an unseen Angel that I wanted to have another Child. That Child as been a special spirit beyond my description.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints has been my vehicle to serve others, the scriptures both Bibile and Book of Mormon create humility in me and a greater love and closeness to my father in heaven.


Don't be like this man on the video, or like my bitter Grandma, learn more.

The Savior truly visited his other sheep, and they recorded his teachings. They are precious to my soul.

it was/is worth a try. but dont expect related posts right away. it is not like people jumped in their car and went to a church/mosque within the time this thread has been alive.

but people like me wont do it because we believe religion shouldnt be mixed with government so we wont like what we see no matter which we decided to attend.

Thanks for sharing AC

My maternal grandmother, Catholic. My paternal grandmother, Holiness. My maternal great grandmother, Jewish, married a Baptist.

I was raised in a multi-religious family. I consider myself a deist with a leaning toward some sort of neo-pagan. I hold a degree in Chemistry with an emphasis in biochemistry and a minor in physics.

I am pursuing graduate studies in engineering and was educated in the classics by my mother. She used a set of the Harvard Classics and the Britannica Great Books to educate all of her children.

I speak, write, and read Latin and Ancient Greek. I've read the Torah, Talmud, Koran. I have read King James, Gideon, Hebrew and Greek Bibles as well the Hindu 'Bible' the Bhagavadga;, and selected works of Taoism and Buddha.

I have had trouble embracing atheism mostly because it's trite and self-centered.

I am well versed in religion and science. I am not voting. That said, my politics is conservative Constitutionalism with some libertarian ideas.

If I were forced to vote, I would vote Romney---the devil you know---Mormon versus the devil; you don't.

Last Edited by Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi) on 10/09/2012 11:30 AM

No, you were'nt trying to understand that train of thought, you've made up your mind about Mormon Church by saying your spirit's uncomfortable with their practice. Perhaps your "spirit" are more comfortable with Jeremiah Wright church? Please tell.

Sitting in Mormon church is not necessarily needed to judge the 'trees'. Ye shall know them by their fruits. (Matthew 7:16) Every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. (Matthew 7:17)
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance. (Gal 5:22-23)

What kind of tree bring forth goodness, honesty, and hardwork?

Why kind of tree bring forth LIES and SMEARS?

After Jesus taught the Apostles and died, the church spread throughout the eastern world, plenty of evidence for that. When the americas were discovered there were no signs of Jesus teaching.