Catholic Church says, "Path To Heaven means pay them TAXES" | |
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Mr. D User ID: 4603964 United States 10/09/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans have paid church taxes since or even before WW2. I myself have lived and worked in Germany and paid said taxes through direct deposit, (It was taken out of my check every month). I think many Catholic Germans are not opposed to the tax itself, I think the hard economic times make them balk at the amount of taxes that are being taken. Germany is one of the most heavily taxed countries in Europe, if not the world. They even have Radio & TV taxes, car taxes, pet taxes (yes you even have to pay taxes for fido, felix and tweety). Let's say you don't own a radio or television in your home, you still have to pay Radio & TV taxes if you have a radio in your car (besides the car tax). So yes, I can understand the anger. It isn't like here in the States where people give what they can afford to give at services. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | remember Jonestown ??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25267920 Jim Jones was an undercover Jesuit Priest with strict orders to infiltrate Christianity and conduct a mass suicide in order to tarnish the reputation of Christians. This was Terrorism and mass murder by the Satanic Vatican. wake up idiot !!! [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23597994 United States 10/09/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholic Church says pay taxes to them or be ex-communicated In Germany, Catholics pay taxes if they want blessings LINKS BELOW [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.npr.org] They're Paulists. Not a good idea if you want to keep thinking straight. |
KK User ID: 23870991 Australia 10/09/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus loved tax agents. One of them, matthew was an apostle. Jesus was always urging people to pay Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268599 He did hang out with the widely despised tax agents. Rome was the oppressing invader of Judea, later it became the home of Catholicism. His mission was, and is, so much more than a political revolution. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14010048 United States 10/09/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. wouldn't pay it. I'll pay it when everyone in the world quits fighting & killing in the name of their religion. One's belief in a higher power is just that, your own belief. My higher power communicates diretly with me & bypasses all those middle men. I do not require a go between. So... no need to employ those goofballs. They need to get a real job! |
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KK User ID: 23870991 Australia 10/09/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans have paid church taxes since or even before WW2. I myself have lived and worked in Germany and paid said taxes through direct deposit, (It was taken out of my check every month). Quoting: Mr. D 4603964 I think many Catholic Germans are not opposed to the tax itself, I think the hard economic times make them balk at the amount of taxes that are being taken. Germany is one of the most heavily taxed countries in Europe, if not the world. They even have Radio & TV taxes, car taxes, pet taxes (yes you even have to pay taxes for fido, felix and tweety). Let's say you don't own a radio or television in your home, you still have to pay Radio & TV taxes if you have a radio in your car (besides the car tax). So yes, I can understand the anger. It isn't like here in the States where people give what they can afford to give at services. Yeah, I think you're right. Time to tax the mega transnational corporations for their use of the world's resources, instead of citizens. |
Mr. D User ID: 4603964 United States 10/09/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans have paid church taxes since or even before WW2. I myself have lived and worked in Germany and paid said taxes through direct deposit, (It was taken out of my check every month). Quoting: Mr. D 4603964 I think many Catholic Germans are not opposed to the tax itself, I think the hard economic times make them balk at the amount of taxes that are being taken. Germany is one of the most heavily taxed countries in Europe, if not the world. They even have Radio & TV taxes, car taxes, pet taxes (yes you even have to pay taxes for fido, felix and tweety). Let's say you don't own a radio or television in your home, you still have to pay Radio & TV taxes if you have a radio in your car (besides the car tax). So yes, I can understand the anger. It isn't like here in the States where people give what they can afford to give at services. Yeah, I think you're right. Time to tax the mega transnational corporations for their use of the world's resources, instead of citizens. I agree, totally. They will still try to worm their way out of it by using Tax loop holes or passing it on to the consumer making everything more expensive. Laws have to be modified to prevent that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909996 United States 10/09/2012 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has only become a profession over the last 100 years or so. Paul: "What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ WITHOUT CHARGE, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel."(Cor 9:18) (Paul was a tent maker......and made tents during his missionary journeys......so as not to be a financial burden on others.) Paul: "But we COMMAND YOU, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. "For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; "NOR DID WE EAT ANYONE'S BREAD FREE OF CHARGE, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, "not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. "For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. (2 Thess 3: 4-10) See also: Acts Chps 2---5 Acts 12: 5-19 Acts 17: 5-9 Acts 21: 1-14 Acts 18: 3 Acts 20: 34 1 Thess 2: 9 1 Thess 4: 11-12 1 Tim 5:8 2 Cor. Chp 11 Phil 4: 10-12 Eph 4: 28 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728825 Puerto Rico 10/09/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholic Church says pay taxes to them or be ex-communicated In Germany, Catholics pay taxes if they want blessings LINKS BELOW [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.npr.org] The Vatican was hijacked in 1963...read Malachi Martin who requested release from the Jesuit order, it was granted...the reigning pope stated to Fr. Malachi...'the red smoke of Satan has entered the Vatican' He was alluding to the Luciferian Enthronement Ceremony conducted in the bowels of the Vatican and a co-ceremony in South Carolina. Research it. God bless. I had the distinct pleasure of speaking with Fr. Martin several times. God rest his soul. A devout man whom I never doubted. His car accident seemed very untimely. I always refer to the book of Malachi...bring the whole tithe into the Church and test me in this, see if I will not open the floodgates of heaven unto you... I'm more concerned with my own personal directive than with what the powers that be do with my tithe..they'll answer to all they do by God's own judgement... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25270895 United States 10/09/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholic Church says pay taxes to them or be ex-communicated In Germany, Catholics pay taxes if they want blessings LINKS BELOW [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.npr.org] NO ONE with any sense and understanding of decency would EVER be connected in any way, shape, or form with that GD Catholic religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Vatican was built on top of the Mountain of the Serpent and the Temple of Janus. It was one of the most evil places on earth. Some say that there are still hidden passages under the Vatican Basements which lead to the old Temple of Janus for human sacrifice preferable innocent pure children. And it happened LONG before 1963. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had the distinct pleasure of speaking with Fr. Martin several times. God rest his soul. A devout man whom I never doubted. His car accident seemed very untimely. Quoting: 4Evergirl there is no such thing as a devout Roman Catholic. There are only mind controlled priests whose loyalty is to the evil pope. once most Priests find out the truth, they are assassinated to conceal the truth. |
Mr. D User ID: 4603964 United States 10/09/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a pdf on EU taxes. I don't know if local taxes are covered here or not. [link to ec.europa.eu] German taxes start on page 107. The church tax is mentioned on page 115. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18652814 United States 10/09/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18652814 United States 10/09/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had the distinct pleasure of speaking with Fr. Martin several times. God rest his soul. A devout man whom I never doubted. His car accident seemed very untimely. Quoting: 4Evergirl there is no such thing as a devout Roman Catholic. There are only mind controlled priests whose loyalty is to the evil pope. once most Priests find out the truth, they are assassinated to conceal the truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18652814 United States 10/09/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus loved tax agents. One of them, matthew was an apostle. Jesus was always urging people to pay Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268599 Jesus was urging people to look beyond the material. Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him. GOD didn't make money.....Man made money in order to enslave you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus loved tax agents. One of them, matthew was an apostle. Jesus was always urging people to pay Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268599 Jesus was urging people to look beyond the material. Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him. GOD didn't make money.....Man made money in order to enslave you. kind of Ironic that St. Mark never even meet Jesus. Mark became a Christian AFTER Jesus was dead. Yet he writes his Gospel in the first person as though he witnessed it. He DID NOT !!! St. Luke never met Jesus either. and another question: How can Matthew write the Lord's Prayer when ALL the disciples were asleep in the Garden ?? Nobody was with Jesus to hear what he did or prayed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus loved tax agents. One of them, matthew was an apostle. Jesus was always urging people to pay Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268599 Jesus was urging people to look beyond the material. Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him. GOD didn't make money.....Man made money in order to enslave you. kind of Ironic that St. Mark never even meet Jesus. Mark became a Christian AFTER Jesus was dead. Yet he writes his Gospel in the first person as though he witnessed it. He DID NOT !!! St. Luke never met Jesus either. and another question: How can Matthew write the Lord's Prayer when ALL the disciples were asleep in the Garden ?? Nobody was with Jesus to hear what he did or prayed. also interesting is this Saul character. Saul worked as an assassin for Rome to kill Christians. Then one day beside the road Saul had a visit from God. details of this visit differ from his own books. In one book he claims the people with him seen the light but did not hear the voice and in another book, he writes they heard the voice but did not see the light. After this incident, Saul becomes Paul. I smell an infiltration by Rome to corrupt whatever message a messiah had left. |
MONSTER User ID: 2122560 United States 10/09/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone who thinks they have to pay money to get into heaven needs to have someone take all their money KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone who thinks they have to pay money to get into heaven needs to have someone take all their money Quoting: MONSTER Catholic Priests use to charge certain amounts for different sins during confession. There was a standard fee set for redemption. redemption for stealing = $1.25 redemption for adultery = $1.75 redemption for murder = $2.50 and the Pope automatically redeemed all life sins if you joined the Crusades and fought for the Pope who in turn asked you to commit another sin by killing Muslims. |
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Daniel of the Rose User ID: 15007203 United States 10/09/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "YOU CANNOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MAMMON" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2017758 The Catholic church is one of the most sinful entities in history. Disgusting and repulsive to its rotten core. Choose! Serve God and be free of this sinful institution or serve 'Mammon' - serve the abomination The choice is yours. Your time is yours(precious)...but it's not serving mammon...if anything it will keep folks from serving it...because you are giving it back to the government who produced it...... money to start with is the root of evil.........the start of evil concepts(especially in a man's heart)....best to give it back... spend time in a wise way....appreciate one another Last Edited by Daniel of the Rose on 10/09/2012 11:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Emperor Constantine was the first Roman Ruler to combine the Roman State with the Roman Church. They were one entity. So basically when you tithed to God the money went into Constantine's pocket. He used religion as double taxation on the populous. And before his death Constantine declared that you could not be a Roman Citizen without being Christian. Being a Christian was later mandatory for the Roman Legions under Constantine's rule. Meaning even the Roman Soldiers were double taxed as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25267920 United States 10/09/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Emperor Constantine was the first Roman Ruler to combine the Roman State with the Roman Church. They were one entity. So basically when you tithed to God the money went into Constantine's pocket. He used religion as double taxation on the populous. And before his death Constantine declared that you could not be a Roman Citizen without being Christian. Being a Christian was later mandatory for the Roman Legions under Constantine's rule. Meaning even the Roman Soldiers were double taxed as well. Constantine was also the one who brought you your Holy Bible who told you to give 10% to God. |
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