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Mrbillybadass (OP) User ID: 21031197 United States 10/09/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh also forgot if you decide to take up the tonfa, my suggestion would be to practice it with your bad hand. Its much easier to get your weaker limb to block than to deliver a debilitating blow. Think like a baseball glove you train your bad hand to catch while your good hand throws. Also you could use your tonfa on your bad arm to work defense, while your attack weapon in your right hand for offense. Just some advice. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9510086 United States 10/10/2012 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For a close encounter tool, that is probably the easiest question of all time. Either a good field knife or a tomahawk. This is coming from someone who is actually well trained on tonfas, kamas, nunchakus, sai, bo staff, you get the picture. Whether in an urban emergency scenario or woodland survival scenario you're going to want the tool that can be doubled up to do other things such as build a shelter, start a fire, make other tools, etc. Also for the sake of combat, a knife has a better learning curve for effectiveness. Same with a tomahawk. Another thing to consider is getting around with that gear. Think about the food you will have to carry, water, sleeping bag or hammock, hygiene products, possible rifle and ammo. You need to consolidate it all as much as possible and in regards to a close range combat tool, you need something you can operate with even after having walked miles and you're tired and exhausted. If you choose to buy a knife, I have a soft spot for the kabars but there are a lot of great choices out there. I have a preference to the carbon steel because it stays sharper longer but you find what you can. Hope you find the right tool for your needs. |
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Mrbillybadass (OP) User ID: 21031197 United States 10/10/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For a close encounter tool, that is probably the easiest question of all time. Either a good field knife or a tomahawk. This is coming from someone who is actually well trained on tonfas, kamas, nunchakus, sai, bo staff, you get the picture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9510086 Whether in an urban emergency scenario or woodland survival scenario you're going to want the tool that can be doubled up to do other things such as build a shelter, start a fire, make other tools, etc. Also for the sake of combat, a knife has a better learning curve for effectiveness. Same with a tomahawk. Another thing to consider is getting around with that gear. Think about the food you will have to carry, water, sleeping bag or hammock, hygiene products, possible rifle and ammo. You need to consolidate it all as much as possible and in regards to a close range combat tool, you need something you can operate with even after having walked miles and you're tired and exhausted. If you choose to buy a knife, I have a soft spot for the kabars but there are a lot of great choices out there. I have a preference to the carbon steel because it stays sharper longer but you find what you can. Hope you find the right tool for your needs. I consider both weapons I've shown can be versatile while definitely not as much as a knife or tomahawk much can still be done with them. Look at native americans many of their weapons like the ball headed war club, and gunstock war club were used for a lot of things not just fighting. Also it wouldn't be hard to have a combination of all the above with holsters in the right place. Just my opinion though if you're choosing knife I would go with kukri. Thicker blade and it's design allows for cutting through thicker material as compared to a normal machete. IMAGE ( [link to www.m4040.com] ) Kukri machete in case anyone was wondering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25302924 United States 10/10/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For a close encounter tool, that is probably the easiest question of all time. Either a good field knife or a tomahawk. This is coming from someone who is actually well trained on tonfas, kamas, nunchakus, sai, bo staff, you get the picture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9510086 Whether in an urban emergency scenario or woodland survival scenario you're going to want the tool that can be doubled up to do other things such as build a shelter, start a fire, make other tools, etc. Also for the sake of combat, a knife has a better learning curve for effectiveness. Same with a tomahawk. Another thing to consider is getting around with that gear. Think about the food you will have to carry, water, sleeping bag or hammock, hygiene products, possible rifle and ammo. You need to consolidate it all as much as possible and in regards to a close range combat tool, you need something you can operate with even after having walked miles and you're tired and exhausted. If you choose to buy a knife, I have a soft spot for the kabars but there are a lot of great choices out there. I have a preference to the carbon steel because it stays sharper longer but you find what you can. Hope you find the right tool for your needs. +1 good post so rare to find good sensible advice in these type of threads |
soldier32 User ID: 119873 United States 10/10/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will have to go with the knife or Tomahawk as will. The Tomahawk you can hit someone with from a little distance if needed. And the fear facter of it will help a lot. But I will always pick guns over all other, like AR-15, SHOTGUN, and hand guns. AR-15 - Good for protiction from close to out to 300 yards and more. Shotgun - Good for close. Hand gun - Good for close. 9mm one of the most used ammo in the US. Easy to find. 22 rifle - This one would be used for hunting only, not so load and ammo very cheap. Also the #1 ammo sold in the US, so it will be a lot easyier to find if needed. In the military we were always trained that if we must turn to are knifes and even are hand guns, we are in trouble, so keep that in mind, and try to keep enemies out at a distance. You need to spot them first, so always put your self in a position were you will. |
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Mrbillybadass (OP) User ID: 760726 United States 10/10/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will have to go with the knife or Tomahawk as will. The Tomahawk you can hit someone with from a little distance if needed. And the fear facter of it will help a lot. Quoting: soldier32 119873 But I will always pick guns over all other, like AR-15, SHOTGUN, and hand guns. AR-15 - Good for protiction from close to out to 300 yards and more. Shotgun - Good for close. Hand gun - Good for close. 9mm one of the most used ammo in the US. Easy to find. 22 rifle - This one would be used for hunting only, not so load and ammo very cheap. Also the #1 ammo sold in the US, so it will be a lot easyier to find if needed. In the military we were always trained that if we must turn to are knifes and even are hand guns, we are in trouble, so keep that in mind, and try to keep enemies out at a distance. You need to spot them first, so always put your self in a position were you will. See we talk about guns, I think a .22 is undervalued. It can reach long distances, and there will be by far more .22 ammo around than anything else. Doesn't matter the caliber of bullet, it matters the placement. Just my personal opinion. |
Saucy Jack User ID: 14697918 United States 10/10/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always had a soft spot in my heart for a spear or a glaive (or hewing-spear as the Scandinavians called them). Not as practical, but lots of reach for a mid-length weapon, and easy learning curve. Used properly, a glaive or spear will keep an individual with a machete or club outside of striking distance. Once you are inside that range, more utilitarian items come up, like the machete, francisca , or tomahawk. The last two, of course, being balanced for throwing. Yeah, you are not gonna agree with me on a lot. Figured that out a long time ago. |
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Codetwister User ID: 25305153 Canada 10/10/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like this thread. I keep multiple weapons both on hand, and in various locations nearby - within a 1 hour walking distance, which for me is approx. 8-10Km radius. While I do NOT feel comfortable disclosing the contents of my stock - its a security thing, we know this forum is watched - My suggestion? Watch some videos of some of the armaments already mentioned IN ACTION, and make a decision on what you think will work best for you. My point here is that, for example, a spikey war club might be an ideal melee weapon for a larger man, a man who is smaller in stature might want to opt with a standard wooden baseball bat with lots o' nails in its sweetspot. Don't oversell your weapon of choice. What works for one person is completely inappropriate for another. |
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Mrbillybadass (OP) User ID: 760726 United States 10/10/2012 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like this thread. Quoting: Codetwister I keep multiple weapons both on hand, and in various locations nearby - within a 1 hour walking distance, which for me is approx. 8-10Km radius. While I do NOT feel comfortable disclosing the contents of my stock - its a security thing, we know this forum is watched - My suggestion? Watch some videos of some of the armaments already mentioned IN ACTION, and make a decision on what you think will work best for you. My point here is that, for example, a spikey war club might be an ideal melee weapon for a larger man, a man who is smaller in stature might want to opt with a standard wooden baseball bat with lots o' nails in its sweetspot. Don't oversell your weapon of choice. What works for one person is completely inappropriate for another. Thank you, and too true with your last comment. Many here I'm sure have never messed with anything hand to hand (it's all guns guns guns here). So this thread is just to give them idea's on various weapons and what to expect from them. |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by LJS on 10/10/2012 04:04 PM Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |