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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23755636 United Kingdom 10/14/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 probably, maybe this can tell you more about that weapon system. [link to www.dtic.mil] It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb. That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban. Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying... LOL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22605781 United States 10/14/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23022509 United States 10/14/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 That is what the typical on the street brainwashed American thinks. They watch these tv shows that make it sound like the govt can tell where you have been by a unique signature in your fart. Lol Big technology can fall easily to low tech if done right. The more high tech it is the easier it is to break by disrupting a single part. For example... Anyone with a simple electronics and radio background would know it to be common sense that you could disrupt a drone by simply overwhelming the signal being sent to it by just using a high power transmitter... A series of them. Drones = useless without c&c |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25312109 Canada 10/14/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb. That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban. Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying... LOL 2/3 of Pakiland would need to be hit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23755636 United Kingdom 10/14/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25388275 United States 10/14/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. Why did everyone stop building those unsinkable battleships? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22605781 United States 10/14/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say? The Cole was docked. Big difference. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25312109 Canada 10/14/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say? The Cole was docked. Big difference. And never happened since. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16588208 United States 10/14/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke. So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say? FFS only a fucktard on GLP would make this comparison. are you really comparing a terrorist attack on a docked vessel to a war time battle? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25532771 Sweden 10/14/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the brainwashed sheeple who dont apprehend the meaning of the word asymmetrical warfare, carriers and such crap belong to the dinasour period and are technically Obsolete like it or not. One missile costing 100 thousand dollars can shot a plan/tank that costs millions of dollars. Regarding the Iranian technology, the latset hit was the drone that flew all over the Israeli defences without being discovered. The drone flew past the unifil control in southern Lebanon, past the Nato based ships outside the Lebanese cost, past the Israeli radar defences all along the cost of Israel including the iron domes and flew above the X-band radar of the US in the Negev desert without being detected. If this technology is not enough of a proof then wait for the shit to hit the fan in a war and then its too late. Stop bragging and get real. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25532400 Greece 10/14/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The iranian doctrine is shooting many missiles at the same time and towards the same target.So it wont be a (one missile),it will be 10,20 or 30 missiles together. The same for ballistic missiles,they try to launch many missiles at the same time towards the same target. Of course you need thousands of missiles to do this kind of attack,tens of thousands...who knows...if they have them or not.These guys may be producing missiles for 30 years,alla day and night long. |
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Nosaj User ID: 13846205 United States 10/14/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what a crock of shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311324 firstly, i saw NOT ONE missile being launched from a speedboat the one missile that was launched came from a warship the target boat was nothing more than a sitting duck, not fighting back does ANYONE here think this is how it would play out? yeah Iran. go on, launch your deadly speedboats at us! Exactly, this is one of the funniest posts I have seen here. We have so many attack helicopters and planes on our carriers out in the ME that I guarantee 1 sortie would take all of these speedboats out instantly. Jus' movin' on up in the world inch by inch... |
Nosaj User ID: 13846205 United States 10/14/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters... Yep. Jus' movin' on up in the world inch by inch... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25388275 United States 10/14/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters... Yep. It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it. No bleeding, dying or drowning involved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25311324 United Kingdom 10/14/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters... Yep. It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it. No bleeding, dying or drowning involved. oh ffs are we keeping you from your flower arranging dear? |
Informed User ID: 25548283 Sweden 10/14/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 do you even realise what equipment our navies have, and the training they go through? do you REALLY believe speedboats, no matter how many of them they have, hold ANY fear for them? honestly guys, get out more. Let us try to explain: The video is propaganda and Iran doesn't have 10 000+ speeds boats, but they have thousands. Of cause a minority of them are missile boats, but they are still in the hundreds. The mistake of western militaries is the obsession of weapon platforms. The bigger and more sophisticated they are is important. UK shows this in their great mistake called the Type 45 destroyers. Even if they have an impressive amount of weapons and counter systems it’s still just ONE target. Platforms always come second to the weapons. It’s no more than what the name says - a platform. It’s much better to fire 100 missiles from 100 small cheep platforms then from a few very expensive ones. Iran shows understanding in this in every field; even then it comes to their midget subs Ghadir, which have 21” torpedo tubes just like the biggest submarines. They can deliver the same blow, are harder to detect, much cheaper to build and can therefore be built in large numbers. They’re in the top 10 list of nasty surprises for their enemies to be. How about better radars and tracing systems some may argue. It doesn’t really matter in an asymmetric warfare were the enemies quantity is big enough. Soviet painfully taught the quality superior Germany this during WWII. Strange the west didn’t learn from it. Then hundreds of small threats approx, you can’t defend against them all. Not even with the most advanced systems. Even if you theoretically can track them you can’t fire at them simultaneously. Not to talk about decision-making and other human factors. Whish one has missiles, mines, divers or maybe even nothing on board? You want know before the missile is fired and then it’s far too late, especially in the narrow waters of the Hormuz straight. We can say for sure that the losses of US and the other aggressors will be for them surprisingly high. |
Nosaj User ID: 13846205 United States 10/14/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb. That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban. Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying... LOL We are trying to be as humane as we can since innocent civilians live there. We can't use our air power there, can't use our Navy, can only engage certain enemies etc. In a real war where we don't have to worry about civilians you really think this would be an issue? Laughable. Bottom line: If we even have boots on the ground, the sheer fact we are using infantry goes to show you were are fighting a soft war. Otherwise the entire region would have be cleansed already. Jus' movin' on up in the world inch by inch... |
Nosaj User ID: 13846205 United States 10/14/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters... Yep. It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it. No bleeding, dying or drowning involved. ...and you know my entire background on politics and the military? Really funny how you project to me the exact thing you are doing. Jus' movin' on up in the world inch by inch... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21161999 United States 10/14/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Erectus User ID: 25527599 United States 10/14/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Examples. The torpedo (narrow spectrum) did not make the battleship obsolete. It took a carrier (an even wider spectrum weapon) to do that. The anti-aircraft missile has not the airplane obsolete. The anti-tank missile has not the tank obsolete. On barren test ranges it would appear that an anti-tank missile makes a tank useless. A $20,000 advanced missile can hit a $20,000,000 tank from a couple of miles away with 90% accuracy, right? Of course it can. But how effective are those same missiles against a tank division bearing down at 30 miles an hour with rolling artillery ahead of them, with smoke screens (to prevent visual laser sighting) and flares popping everywhere (to disorient thermal guidance)? And then at closer ranges automatic mortars and heavy machine guns start spreading death and destruction. How effective are those exposed missile infantry troops now? Narrow spectrum weapons are threats that if not guarded against are game changers. That is all. They make things more dangerous and thus require resources and/or tactical doctrine changes to mitigate. Take a military history class or a modern warfare class....or read a damn book before declaring absurdities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15440759 United States 10/14/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ''''It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it. No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.'''' BEST comment on this thread!!!! That is their country and they have been around for thousands of years-Israel just over 60 and USA 242. You dont think they will defend their country.They are not the one making the threats.Be careful what you wish for. There are 3 democracies in the ME-Israel Turkey and Iran -with elections................. When is the last time the US got into a conflict and came out quickly and cleanly? We do not need this grief again.They are no threat to the states so why have needless bloodshed-and for who-for what? Wake up!! |
Nosaj User ID: 13846205 United States 10/14/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 do you even realise what equipment our navies have, and the training they go through? do you REALLY believe speedboats, no matter how many of them they have, hold ANY fear for them? honestly guys, get out more. Let us try to explain: The video is propaganda and Iran doesn't have 10 000+ speeds boats, but they have thousands. Of cause a minority of them are missile boats, but they are still in the hundreds. The mistake of western militaries is the obsession of weapon platforms. The bigger and more sophisticated they are is important. UK shows this in their great mistake called the Type 45 destroyers. Even if they have an impressive amount of weapons and counter systems it’s still just ONE target. Platforms always come second to the weapons. It’s no more than what the name says - a platform. It’s much better to fire 100 missiles from 100 small cheep platforms then from a few very expensive ones. Iran shows understanding in this in every field; even then it comes to their midget subs Ghadir, which have 21” torpedo tubes just like the biggest submarines. They can deliver the same blow, are harder to detect, much cheaper to build and can therefore be built in large numbers. They’re in the top 10 list of nasty surprises for their enemies to be. How about better radars and tracing systems some may argue. It doesn’t really matter in an asymmetric warfare were the enemies quantity is big enough. Soviet painfully taught the quality superior Germany this during WWII. Strange the west didn’t learn from it. Then hundreds of small threats approx, you can’t defend against them all. Not even with the most advanced systems. Even if you theoretically can track them you can’t fire at them simultaneously. Not to talk about decision-making and other human factors. Whish one has missiles, mines, divers or maybe even nothing on board? You want know before the missile is fired and then it’s far too late, especially in the narrow waters of the Hormuz straight. We can say for sure that the losses of US and the other aggressors will be for them surprisingly high. Huge problem with your theory: Iran's latest “carrier killer” missile has a 185-mile range. Tomahawks and F/A-18E/F Super Hornets are launched from 400 to 1,000 miles offshore. You do the math logistically and you will see how they will fail. I guess we will wait for these 10,000 speedboats to travel 500+ miles towards us before we do anything right? Jus' movin' on up in the world inch by inch... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25520860 United States 10/14/2012 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23746394 It would seem very much like a video game from the American side. American military is so quick and so automated that America would kill more of its own soldiers in friendly fire accidents than Iran would kill in an allout attack. It would be a complete fish in a barrel rout. The phalanx is an old and well tested weapon. Don't count on it getting too hot to fire. Think gatling gun against indians with bows and arrows. |
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