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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27970216 United States 11/18/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ".... until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose. 3 To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them throughout forty days and telling the things about the kingdom of God." Ac1:1 Quoting: DGN Farts in DGN"s general direction. |
KonaCoffee User ID: 21922850 United States 11/18/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's something I always wondered about... When Jesus was talking to God the Father all alone as his disciples lay sleeping, who was there to catch that he was sweating blood and all the stuff he was saying? Did Jesus say, "Hey, Peter, write THIS shit down!" Because Peter was busy denying the crap out of Him when he got arrested later.. How does anyone know what he was saying and doing at Gethsemane, if everyone was snoozing? Because after all, Judas died two completely different ways, and we wouldn't want that to be a stumbling block, too. So what's up with the two differing stories on Judas' death? |
DGN (OP) User ID: 27870140 United States 11/18/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ".... until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose. 3 To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them throughout forty days and telling the things about the kingdom of God." Ac1:1 Quoting: DGN Farts in DGN"s general direction. Well by golly that's not very neighborly now is it fellow? |
ibis User ID: 26375357 United States 11/18/2012 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHRIST IS NOT GOD, HE IS FROM GOD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15179094 PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD, SO HE SENT A PERSON JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, EVEN POOR. HE WAS ABLE TO DO THINGS, THAT MOST OF US WOULD NOT EVEN BELIEVE TODAY IF WE SAW IT WITH OUR OWN EYES. CHRIST = LOVE GOD SENT CHRIST INTO THE WORLD. ALL WE HAD/HAVE TO DO WAS BELIEVE THAT GOD ACTUALLY DID THIS, HE GAVE US "SOMETHING" TO BELIEVE IT RATHER THAN JUST THIS MYSTERIOUS GOD THAT WE STILL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TODAY. TRUST ME, I WAS BORN AN ATHEIST. I HAVE HAD A PRETTY DIFFICULT LIFE, AND HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY KNEES MULTIPLE TIMES (UNFORTUNATELY NOT A PRAYER, BUT BECAUSE LIFE WAS TOO DIFFICULT) I THANK GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES AS WELL AS THE BAD, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE DARKEST HOURS AND MOST DIFFICULT OF TIMES THAT I AM LEARNING EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO LEARN, NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT THE LESSON. I HAVE MIXED WITH THE WORST OF THEM, BEEN TO JAIL, TORTURED, HOMELESS, MADE FUN OF, YOU NAME IT I'VE DONE IT AND I STILL REMEMBER GOD AND/OR CHRIST EVERY DAY. I AM ACTUALLY VERY BLESSED, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO MONEY I HAVE NEARLY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I NEED. CHRIST WAS NOT SOMETHING FORCED UPON US. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND RELIGION IS WHAT WAS FORCED ON US. STOP LISTENING TO THE PRIESTS AND EVERYONE ELSE, READ THE BOOK FOR YOUR SELF AND FIND THE ANSWERS YOU SEEK TO FIND WITHIN YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN. KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPENED, ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE. This is a beautiful testimony. Thank you. |
DGN (OP) User ID: 27870140 United States 11/18/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHRIST IS NOT GOD, HE IS FROM GOD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15179094 PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD, SO HE SENT A PERSON JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, EVEN POOR. HE WAS ABLE TO DO THINGS, THAT MOST OF US WOULD NOT EVEN BELIEVE TODAY IF WE SAW IT WITH OUR OWN EYES. CHRIST = LOVE GOD SENT CHRIST INTO THE WORLD. ALL WE HAD/HAVE TO DO WAS BELIEVE THAT GOD ACTUALLY DID THIS, HE GAVE US "SOMETHING" TO BELIEVE IT RATHER THAN JUST THIS MYSTERIOUS GOD THAT WE STILL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TODAY. TRUST ME, I WAS BORN AN ATHEIST. I HAVE HAD A PRETTY DIFFICULT LIFE, AND HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY KNEES MULTIPLE TIMES (UNFORTUNATELY NOT A PRAYER, BUT BECAUSE LIFE WAS TOO DIFFICULT) I THANK GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES AS WELL AS THE BAD, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE DARKEST HOURS AND MOST DIFFICULT OF TIMES THAT I AM LEARNING EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO LEARN, NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT THE LESSON. I HAVE MIXED WITH THE WORST OF THEM, BEEN TO JAIL, TORTURED, HOMELESS, MADE FUN OF, YOU NAME IT I'VE DONE IT AND I STILL REMEMBER GOD AND/OR CHRIST EVERY DAY. I AM ACTUALLY VERY BLESSED, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO MONEY I HAVE NEARLY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I NEED. CHRIST WAS NOT SOMETHING FORCED UPON US. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND RELIGION IS WHAT WAS FORCED ON US. STOP LISTENING TO THE PRIESTS AND EVERYONE ELSE, READ THE BOOK FOR YOUR SELF AND FIND THE ANSWERS YOU SEEK TO FIND WITHIN YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN. KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPENED, ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE. This is a beautiful testimony. Thank you. Yes, sounds a lot like Apostle Paul' " Not that I am speaking with regard to being in want, for I have learned, in whatever circumstances I am, to be self-sufficient. 12 I know indeed how to be low [on provisions], I know indeed how to have an abundance. In everything and in all circumstances I have learned the secret of both how to be full and how to hunger, both how to have an abundance and how to suffer want. 13 For all things I have the strength by virtue of him who imparts power to me." Phil4:11 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23595888 United States 11/18/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ".... until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose. 3 To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them throughout forty days and telling the things about the kingdom of God." Ac1:1 Quoting: DGN Farts in DGN"s general direction. ........................ in stereo |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23595888 United States 11/18/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God the Father resurrected God the Son. You know that, you are just trying to be divisive. Are you a JW or something? Quoting: Needles Eye "God the son"? No scripture? Really? Try John 1:1-1:17 Are you really retarded enough, to not understand, that the son of God, would also be a God? Are you really retarded enough, to believe all this crap? it was made up |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 United States 11/18/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus the christ = the flesh/jesus that contains the spirit/christ...the spirit caused the flesh to say> you will do the things i have done and you will do greater things.. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23595888 United States 11/18/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 10:18 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17120549 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." nerf herder, why must you quote from the bible to allow yourself to do anything? can't you think for yourself? do you have to make excuses to everybody for everything about your own behavior? don't you feel like an idiot? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17120549 United States 11/18/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 10:18 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17120549 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." nerf herder, why must you quote from the bible to allow yourself to do anything? can't you think for yourself? do you have to make excuses to everybody for everything about your own behavior? don't you feel like an idiot? Not at all. I'm blessed that God has allowed me to be one of his sheep and I'm thankful for it. Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; Proverbs 3:5 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28003064 United States 11/18/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This event in history perfectly exposes the fact that Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit make up the eternal entity we call ALMIGHTY GOD. Jesus raised Himself from the dead. JOHN 2 18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead. ROMANS 8 11 But if THE SPIRIT of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth in you. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead ACTS 5 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 United States 11/18/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 10:18 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17120549 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/18/2012 07:08 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/18/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God the Father resurrected God the Son. You know that, you are just trying to be divisive. Are you a JW or something? Quoting: Needles Eye "God the son"? No scripture? Really? Try John 1:1-1:17 Are you really retarded enough, to not understand, that the son of God, would also be a God? Are you really retarded enough, to believe all this crap? it was made up |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/18/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 10:18 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17120549 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." nerf herder, why must you quote from the bible to allow yourself to do anything? can't you think for yourself? do you have to make excuses to everybody for everything about your own behavior? don't you feel like an idiot? |
christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/18/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's something I always wondered about... Quoting: KonaCoffee When Jesus was talking to God the Father all alone as his disciples lay sleeping, who was there to catch that he was sweating blood and all the stuff he was saying? Did Jesus say, "Hey, Peter, write THIS shit down!" Because Peter was busy denying the crap out of Him when he got arrested later.. How does anyone know what he was saying and doing at Gethsemane, if everyone was snoozing? Because after all, Judas died two completely different ways, and we wouldn't want that to be a stumbling block, too. So what's up with the two differing stories on Judas' death? Because the Holy Spirit was the GUIDE, the AUTHOR of the HOLY SCRIPTURES..... It's not a MAN MADE BOOK, but a HOLY BOOK... GOD has PROPHETS who took the TESTIMONY from GOD himself to write down... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
KonaCoffee User ID: 21922850 United States 11/18/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's something I always wondered about... Quoting: KonaCoffee When Jesus was talking to God the Father all alone as his disciples lay sleeping, who was there to catch that he was sweating blood and all the stuff he was saying? Did Jesus say, "Hey, Peter, write THIS shit down!" Because Peter was busy denying the crap out of Him when he got arrested later.. How does anyone know what he was saying and doing at Gethsemane, if everyone was snoozing? Because after all, Judas died two completely different ways, and we wouldn't want that to be a stumbling block, too. So what's up with the two differing stories on Judas' death? Because the Holy Spirit was the GUIDE, the AUTHOR of the HOLY SCRIPTURES..... It's not a MAN MADE BOOK, but a HOLY BOOK... GOD has PROPHETS who took the TESTIMONY from GOD himself to write down... Ok I will go with Santa. DMT even. My choice, doncha know. And what about the death of Judas? |
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DGN (OP) User ID: 27870140 United States 11/18/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God the Father resurrected God the Son. You know that, you are just trying to be divisive. Are you a JW or something? Quoting: Needles Eye "God the son"? No scripture? Really? Try John 1:1-1:17 Are you really retarded enough, to not understand, that the son of God, would also be a God? "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him." Jo1:18 Last Edited by DGN on 11/18/2012 10:47 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13813766 Australia 11/18/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The trinity is a pagan doctrine perpetuated by the church. And when most trinitarians are confronted with the factsand history about the trinity they cannot handle it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26849827 Nonsense and the Bible is against you.Tyhe word "TRINITY" is not in the Bible but the doctrine or theme behind it is. It appears first in GenesisChapter1 verses 1,2,3. In the Beginning God created the Heavens and earth.The SPIRIT descended on the waters.He SAID let there be light.RIGHT THERE.God(Father)Spirit(Holy Spirit) Word(Son) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22787868 Canada 11/18/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ".... until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose. 3 To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them throughout forty days and telling the things about the kingdom of God." Ac1:1 Quoting: DGN No one did. God came back to give us valid sacraments. God who is CHrist has a deal with lucifer. The deal is that lucifer can not use force or violence to gain souls onlynly subversion so crucifixion was considered a deal breaker so the devil who is lucifer who is the sabbatine goat can not win. He can have the souls he has but he can not have all of them which is what lucifer wants. Winner takes all and loser gets nothing so even though lucifer has souls he still has nothing. The jewish freemasons panicked when God with his Mother appeared and they lost souls they crucified God. So the devil lost. Big whoops on the masons part. |
KonaCoffee User ID: 21922850 United States 11/19/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judas! I still want to know why these 'inspired' scriptures say he died two completly different ways!!!!! Also, I don't really care that much, I just wanted to throw it out there. I'm all into astrotheology. The bible has a lot of great stuff, it just was never meant to be taken so freakin literally. And yes, that IS my choice. I don't tell anyone else what to choose to believe. |
DGN (OP) User ID: 27870140 United States 11/19/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The trinity is a pagan doctrine perpetuated by the church. And when most trinitarians are confronted with the factsand history about the trinity they cannot handle it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26849827 Nonsense and the Bible is against you.Tyhe word "TRINITY" is not in the Bible but the doctrine or theme behind it is. It appears first in GenesisChapter1 verses 1,2,3. In the Beginning God created the Heavens and earth.The SPIRIT descended on the waters.He SAID let there be light.RIGHT THERE.God(Father)Spirit(Holy Spirit) Word(Son) Jesus NEVER claimed to be Jehovah and never solicited worship for himself; "Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to put a test upon those dwelling on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine. 13 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’ Rv3:10 |