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Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet

 
Anonymous Coward
11/03/2012 08:59 PM
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Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
I mean ENTIRELY new.

Why hasn't anyone made another internet? Totally serious question.

How hard can it be?

If we don't like where things are going with this whole entire internet, why not invent and use a new one?

It's not only likely, but entirely probable that I'm missing something absolutely crucial here.

Regardless, does anyone see where I'm going with this? Honestly?
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11/03/2012 09:03 PM
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Big Gov says "not on my watch"...

all about control methinks.
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11/03/2012 09:05 PM
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Big Gov says "not on my watch"...

all about control methinks.
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4by2 holy shit!

Long time no see brother!

How you been!?

Love that AV awesome to see!
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11/03/2012 09:07 PM
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
YES!

And it can be the EVIL version...all dark and skeery.
This internet needs a FRIEND!

Not fluffy and fun like this one.

Rainbows and unicorns and dreamy songs...

longhair
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
Big Gov says "not on my watch"...

all about control methinks.
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4by2 holy shit!

Long time no see brother!

How you been!?

Love that AV awesome to see!
 Quoting: Mister Obvious



Hey MO, it's great to be back, just wish I had more free time to spare.

I've been busy, busy, busy...

I love the big cat too, certainly wouldn't want to meet that one on a dark night...lol


hf
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11/03/2012 09:17 PM
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As long as we can disco

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11/03/2012 09:22 PM
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
I mean ENTIRELY new.

Why hasn't anyone made another internet? Totally serious question.

How hard can it be?

If we don't like where things are going with this whole entire internet, why not invent and use a new one?

It's not only likely, but entirely probable that I'm missing something absolutely crucial here.

Regardless, does anyone see where I'm going with this? Honestly?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Or at least significantly improve what we already have.
I agree with you....the system is flawed.
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Evil_Twin

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11/03/2012 09:23 PM

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We'd need an entirely new internet infrastructure. .Gub owns this shit.

Last Edited by Evil_Twin on 11/03/2012 09:24 PM
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11/03/2012 09:31 PM
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Wouldn't it become more censored in a way? It would end up being like compartmentalization.

I love that I can go on the internet and find different ideas and concepts than the one's I am used to. If there were more than one internet, everything would suddenly become part of a genre.
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11/03/2012 09:48 PM
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Did you know that the internet originated from Arpanet, which was a military/government project.
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11/03/2012 09:53 PM
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You have to use their infrastructure, unless you can create a completely wireless internet... Good luck.

Really there isn't anything the FCC can't claim dominion over.

If they decide to control the internet, really, you'll have no choice but to comply.

There will be some attempts to create independent networks but nothing that will ever come close to being "the internet"

There is the deep web, that many assume is an alternative, but lol, it is more of a trap than anything else.

Bow down before your PTB and accept their rule.

That is ultimately all you can do.

Until then, enjoy the little freedom you have now.

:P
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So then essentially the internet is a limited thing and won't even be around for too much longer in the way we all know and love it probably.

Basically you're all suggesting we're just gonna be like okay, well then, no more internet for us...

And then just have no fucking internet?

Think about what the INTERNET IS.

It's just advanced communication...

Like I said, it should be easy to accomplish with all the brilliant minds out there.

It doesn't even seem like a big deal, it just seems obvious, IMHO.

I view it on par with making a new iPhone or some shit.
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So then essentially the internet is a limited thing and won't even be around for too much longer in the way we all know and love it probably.

Basically you're all suggesting we're just gonna be like okay, well then, no more internet for us...

And then just have no fucking internet?

Think about what the INTERNET IS.

It's just advanced communication...

Like I said, it should be easy to accomplish with all the brilliant minds out there.

It doesn't even seem like a big deal, it just seems obvious, IMHO.

I view it on par with making a new iPhone or some shit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Oh I don't doubt for one second that there are many brilliant minds out there that can conceive a completely new, more highly advanced communication system.

But developing it is another issue. Even if someone had the all the necessary means to develop a new internet system, tptb would find some way to sabatage their work.
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
So then essentially the internet is a limited thing and won't even be around for too much longer in the way we all know and love it probably.

Basically you're all suggesting we're just gonna be like okay, well then, no more internet for us...

And then just have no fucking internet?

Think about what the INTERNET IS.

It's just advanced communication...

Like I said, it should be easy to accomplish with all the brilliant minds out there.

It doesn't even seem like a big deal, it just seems obvious, IMHO.

I view it on par with making a new iPhone or some shit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


You'll still be able to do almost all of that, just that you will comply with new regulations, laws and rules..

Eventually there will be NO anonymity at all on the internet... Believe me, they can do this and implement it and eventually will.

The internet will become a new cyber world where you are responsible and identifiable with everything you do online (always)

Blogs and forums will have clear guidelines and content controls and regulations (enforceable)

Advertising and ad revenues will also be regulated and controlled.. They can literally starve a blog/site/form out of business.

These are just a few of the things in the works now...

You'll still have the internet, but it may be so regulated that you may not want it.

We'll see...
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11/03/2012 10:05 PM
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You are right MO. But the Internet as we know it all easy and the such is like trademarked.

A new Internet would be a lot different in the sense that it could not operate the way the current one does. It would have to completely change format to not break any laws.
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11/03/2012 10:10 PM
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We need a Star Trek type of communication device, it can be basic, look plain, and do everything we'd expect from a computer w/internet capabilities. Fuckin' play music, bring up a platform where I can type a bunch of shit, maybe have some games... maybe some lasers 'n shit.


Jeez get creative here, people, it's fuckin' 2012.
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11/03/2012 11:07 PM
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
Aren't we all supposed to be telepathic in 2013?

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11/03/2012 11:10 PM
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Aren't we all supposed to be telepathic in 2013?
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Heeey, I forgot about that!


Fuck it!


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Yeah...it'll be hella awkward the morning we all wake up in each other's heads...

I'll be especially embarrassed...I know that for sure...

groucho
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11/04/2012 12:26 AM
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
I mean ENTIRELY new.

Why hasn't anyone made another internet? Totally serious question.

How hard can it be?

If we don't like where things are going with this whole entire internet, why not invent and use a new one?

It's not only likely, but entirely probable that I'm missing something absolutely crucial here.

Regardless, does anyone see where I'm going with this? Honestly?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


a new internet needs to be based on another approach to information, communication.

and you not need to erase the old one to achieve this.
the tools are there.
facebook or google might have achieved it, but they used the same old approach to it.
because of that the result is the same ratio of junk/noise to meaningful content.

the first wave of internet which is still in place was oriented on storing every piece of information, irrelevant of its usefulness.
now that we have this huge pile of shit with all the gems of the world hidden in it, maybe it's time for some cleaning
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11/04/2012 12:33 AM
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for example i would think a great asset to this forum in terms of allowing for content oriented meaningful discussions the possibility of the thread creator inviting only specific users to contribute to the discussion, eliminating from the start the possibility of distorting the topic. just a thought :)
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11/04/2012 12:39 AM
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Re: Thoughts & Theories: A New Internet
I mean ENTIRELY new.

Why hasn't anyone made another internet? Totally serious question.

How hard can it be?

If we don't like where things are going with this whole entire internet, why not invent and use a new one?

It's not only likely, but entirely probable that I'm missing something absolutely crucial here.

Regardless, does anyone see where I'm going with this? Honestly?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


I agree. Does not the government have intranet? Seems like private enterprise could have something similar. I remember a few years back playing poker on an "underground" poker site. By that it was a non internet location but on the computer. We used ICQ to instant message too.

GLP could set it up maybe where we could keep in touch if the kill switch is activated. But since the government controls all the bandwidths would an off shore location for transmission be needed. To be sure I am showing my ignorance about now.
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11/04/2012 01:53 AM
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[link to shadowrun.wikia.com]

Shadowrun seems intent on manifesting.

The timeline is rather accurate.

[link to shadowrun.wikia.com]

Psyop or phenomenological wangling?
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11/06/2012 11:39 AM
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[link to tronweb.super-nova.co.jp]

Simply put, the Internet now represents to me a form of primitive telepathy, telepathy based on circuitry, to be exact. Undoubtedly because he deals with the nuts and bolts issues of building networks on a daily basis, and thus has little time for actually gathering heretofore unobtainable information from the Internet, he was unable to understand what I was trying to say.

For that reason, I decided not to get into what led me to this new view of the Internet, but actually it could be called the mother of all "conspiracy theories," i.e., that people many thousands of years ago were telepathic, and that human language was created to divide and conquer the human race. I have absolutely no idea if this theory--well, actually a hypothesis or a contention--is true, but it led me to start thinking about what human life would be like if we didn't have to actually verbalize our thoughts and translate them across the arbitrary barriers we call "natural languages."

 Quoting: A new view of the Internet article

 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Thread: The North American Internet is Under ATTACK! Does your internet connection suck lately? Here's why! (Page 2)
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11/06/2012 11:45 AM
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I think it moves forward to understanding string theory and everyone that can plugs into the cosmic computer.
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We'd need an entirely new internet infrastructure. .Gub owns this shit.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


probably have to be 99% wireless and each packet envelope fully encrypted (can you say slooow), since the big telecom companies own all the wires and uncle sam gets a copy of everything that travels over them diverted out to their new data fortress in utah.

also, unless someone who is outside the gov's reach has the wherewithal to lay their own undersea cables or launch their own com satellites and protect them from deliberate destruction, i just don't see it happening.
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I think just something we could pull out of our pockets and slap onto our third eye, or maybe attach to sunglasses.
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I mean ENTIRELY new.


Regardless, does anyone see where I'm going with this? Honestly?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious





Aren't we all supposed to be telepathic in 2013?






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