Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

The Federal Reserve does not operate using TAX DOLLARS. They are private banks.

Welfare, Obamaphones, food stamps and so forth come from TAX Dollars.

I do not like to pay tax dollars.

I can't put it any more simple than that.

But don't try to pretend the federal reserve is the same as the U.S. government.

And I do NOT support corporate welfare either nor bank bailouts but if the Federal reserve is doing it, that's a totally different situation. Banks answer to their shareholders.

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1) Uh, we are a secular government because the Founding Fathers set it up that way. The Protestants were escaping religious persecution, the colonies grew with changing tides of religion based on splits within the Protestant church. There were Jewish and Atheist communities as well, though the latter was only a couple that never really thrived. They weren't called Atheist either, though the real name escapes me at the moment.
My point here is that by the time the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were drawn, there were several religious communities and not one was held above the other. As time has gone on, however, threats against the specific Christian values at the time have been made and yet surprisingly, by the next generation, the issue was forgotten and society had moved on.
It is financially impossible for a household to have one parent at home full time. My husband and I barely squeak by. We are both in college at the moment so that we can get hired for slightly higher than minimum wage jobs. The GOP had the office for 8 years and ran this country into ruin (as well as Clinton's housing decision in the '90's); the Democrats have had the White House for only 4 and have mucked it up horribly as well.
We had a chance to make a change and we will again in 4 more years. The whole government is what is running the country into the ground, the Senate and the Congress.
QUIT VOTING THE SAME STUPID PEOPLE IN, AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!

Where in the hell are you getting this assumption that I believe the Federal reserve is part of the government?

You can't just make shit up to make yourself right.

I'm still awaiting your response to the 29 trillion dollar bailout facts.

Try to stay on topic.

Are you saying no tax dollars go to the FED?

No, I answered every one of your childish questions and rather politely I might add.

I will repeat: I do not like to see my tax dollars going for ANY kind of welfare other than what people have paid into, earned or those in extreme dire circumstances.

It has become a career and way of life and is the largest expense the government has to pay and is unsustainable.

That's not what I say. It's in black and white in the budget.

Still waiting for some evidence to support your points.

What I do know from anecdotal data (people telling me) is that in my area, white people have a harder time getting on the rolls than others, and virtually everyone working in the office that makes approval decisions is black.

I cannot support such a system without enough transparency to prevent people who look like me from being screwed when they need help.

Dude, she's a complete fucking idiot.

Don't waste the time I have with this twit.

No, I'm not saying that. But it is separate money. It's the same as any other bank:

The Federal Reserve's income is derived primarily from the interest on U.S. government securities that it has acquired through open market operations. Other sources of income are the interest on foreign currency investments held by the System; fees received for services provided to depository institutions, such as check clearing, funds transfers and automated clearinghouse operations; and interest on loans to depository institutions (the rate on which is the so-called discount rate). After paying its expenses, the Federal Reserve turns the rest of its earnings over to the U.S. Treasury.


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Do you always wait around for other people to give you the answers?

It is a very simple Google search and there are multiple links there.

Educate yourself.

You're so cute.

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If the private banks of the Federal Reserve bailed out something, it is NOT my problem. They are not demanding taxes directly from ME to pay for it.

It's totally a different subject than the government tax-funded welfare to both individuals and corporations.

And totally derails this thread.

I'm outta here.

This place is chuck FULL of idiots.

The Title of this thread and the discussion is the GOVERNMENT giving assistance and NOT the Federal Reserve.

You obviously don't understand deflation of currency and how it effects YOU.

You're so stupid it hurts my head reading your words.

Literally.

They skim that shit right off the top..

The debate that YOU started was about the bailouts and corporate welfare that numbered in the 29 TRILLION dollar range compared to food stamps and welfare.

I'm so done with you.



When you wake the fuck up, come see me.

I'll be around.

We're not talking about deflation or inflation or the federal reserve.

Just the GOVERNMENT assistance to individuals and corporations.

If 279 wants to start a discussion of those things, I suggest you start your own thread.

You started the shit with the federal reserve out of nowhere, not me. Dumbass.

Then you claim that the corporate bailouts don't effect your money. Dumbass.

You're just too stupid to breathe.

*Why did I come back? Just leave these morons to themselves already.*

After looking over your thread history, it's no surprise, now, that you are completely clueless.

Note to self.

Women who can't keep their legs closed and the welfare kid with the new air jordans are the two most common phrases everyone says. Booooring! Be a little more original. First of all, it takes two to tango....Come on, where's the deadbeat dad? So you're judging someone by their apparel. Did you ever think that maybe they got it as a gift, goodwill, or it was a hand-me-down.

No, YOU posted a link to an article that said the Federal Reserve gave $29 trillion in bailouts trying to PRETEND it was the U.S. Government who did that.

It was from your bogus proof link.

I clicked on the last page of this thread and see some of the most idiotic ramblings I have ever seen on GLP.

Yeah, but its so much fun.
These fools think Obamaphone lady has the money.
This website claims to be for entertainment purposes. I am entertained

What money? There is no money. That's the problem. But this is where it went:


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No, THIS is where it went.

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You got some evidence to back that statement up?

I looked at your little chart. It's cute, but it's bullshit.
With corporate welfare, it is spread across all of spending.
Drug companies are snatching their freebies under medical spending and may sneak a little out of transportation.
Defense contactors may sneek some out of what is considered medical spending for supplies.

Hidden in plain sight, but if you gathered all of these programs up and call them what they are, and put them in thier own catagory, you would see what you refuse to see.

Do you recall what I had to say about the shell game?

You obviously do not understand how the fed works. It is a private bank, but it has been given unlimited power to mint our money. It is unconstitutional, but it is still happening. It is our money! This private bank is minting US currency, and lending it back to us. Yes they are charging us interest on our own money. Then they print up as much money as they want for their bail-outs. This basically makes all dollars worth less. So every time you hear that the fed is bailing someone out, even though our taxes are not be used, it is costing us because our dollars are losing value when the mint more money for these projects that we have nothing to do with. Liberal economics are hocus pocus!

Most of those on welfare programs are freeloaders who do not employ people or provide people with their livelyhoods. I met a lot of them working in the mortgage business investigating the subprime scams- giving home loans to people on disability, etc. They're lazy scam artists collecting disability and food cards and housing assistance.