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Economic Doom News - Financial Market Turning Points - 2013 through 2020

 
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Please mark these dates down for financial planning:

(Derived from Martin Armstrong's Economic Confidence Model)

Aug 7, 2013 - Start of next leg down

Septemper 3/4, 2014 - Start of upward markets

Oct 1, 2015 - start of large downward trend (This one is huge) Martin refers to this as the start of the "Big Bang"

Oct 28, 2016 - start of next leg up (no doubt from pre-election manipulations)

Nov 24/25, 2017 - start of another leg down

Jan 18/29, 2020 - start of upward trend

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"In Time Magazine, Justin Fox wrote that Armstrong's model "made several eerily on-the-mark calls using a formula
based on the mathematical constant pi." (Pg 30; Nov. 30, 2009). Our famous forecast regarding the collapse of
Russia in 1998 in Russia made even the CIA stand on its head. Understanding the wave structure is critical. A system
can crash from exhaustion in what we call the Waterfall Event as was the case with Rome, or it can go through a
Market Phase-TransitionTM that creates the exponential rally such as the .Com Bubble. Nikkei 1989, or gold jumping from $400 to $875 in about 12 weeks for the high in 1980. The Market Phase-TransitionTM is not the collapse of a system but form spike highs that may last for decades. The far more serious economic death takes place with the far
more devastating collapse by exhaustion in the Waterfall Event".

More on his methodology here:


[link to armstrongeconomics.files.wordpress.com]

Main websit here:
[link to armstrongeconomics.com]

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"Timing models are capable of providing the points in TIME when a high or low will unfold which we call TURNING POINTS. They do not predict whether or not we will see a specific event (high or low), just that an event (high or low) will materialize at a given moment in time. They are not pattern recognition trying to match the past with the present on an artistic basis or trying to measure every turn of wave. This is simply about TIME and how long will a trend last. There are many different trends that are taking place both within the internal market being observed (as we will see there are 3 types of volatility) as well as the interconnectivity influences from a full gambit of related and unrelated markets on a global scale. Therefore, where a local cycle would normally produce a high, that can be (1) cancelled out entirely by a larger counter-trend wave
bet it external or internal, or (2) inverted by these same external forces. This becomes the Superposition Principle that can be a Constructive Inference causing the wave to magnify, or a Destructive Inference causing the local wave to be cancelled out or invert".

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We will be on our way down long before August 2013. There are massive taxes about to be levied, the US dollar is 'unofficially' devalued to the point that it is beginning to look like the peso, globally companies are announcing massive layoffs, and don't forget about this food situation because of the drought in the Midwest.
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While on an emotional basis - I agree with you - it has been proven, the FED, through QE to infinity - can put off the "end game" longer than we can predict. Our fallible human logic wants to see the "fiscal cliff" happening tomorrow as we see the math involved. But the entire corrupt world-wide banking cartel is propping up the charade, keeping the markets artificially up.

I challenge you to study Martin's site and methodology. He has been right many times in the past.

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In September 2012, the Fed said that it would add $23 billion of mortgage bonds to its portfolio by the end of September and then announce its plans for October as part of a new process that aims to prioritize the Fed’s economic objectives.

The Fed also said, in a statement following a meeting of its policy-making committee, that it now expects to hold short-term interest rates near zero until at least mid-2015, extending the forecast it made in January by about half a year.

The statement said that the economy had continued to expand “at a moderate pace,” but that the Fed had concluded “growth might not be strong enough to generate sustained improvement in labor market conditions.”

That has been true for months, perhaps years, but implicit in the statement was the Fed’s conclusion that the situation was no longer acceptable. Eleven members of the committee voted for the action; Jeffrey Lacker, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, dissented, as he has at each meeting this year.

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:Bernak is money :
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your link sux.
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Just clicked on both (from the first post) and they both work fine
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Kondratieff Waves and the Greater Depression of 2013 - 2020

BY CHRISTOPHER QUIGLEY02/24/2012

There are very few heroes in economics but for me one of the patron saints of that profession should be Nikolai Kondratiev who was shot by firing squad on the orders of Stalin in 1938. He died for what he believed was the truth. His execution was ordered because his academic work propounded that the capitalist system would not collapse as a result of the great depression of 1929. This truth Stalin did not want to hear, thus Nikolai was exterminated and his work suppressed for over two decades.

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Implications for 2012 and Beyond


Based on Professor Thompson's analysis long K cycles have nearly a thousand years of supporting evidence. If we accept the fact that most winters in K cycles last 20 years (as outlined in the chart above) this would indicate that we are about halfway through the Kondratieff winter that commenced in the year 2000. Thus in all probability we will be moving from a "recession" to a "depression" phase in the cycle about the year 2013 and it should last until approximately 2017-2020.
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Thread: Real Inflation Numbers - Doom to the 99%
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Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality

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Thread: Unemployment Projections Through 2020 - It Looks Grim
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Big Inflation Coming

Big inflation is coming. As Obama recklessly spent 50% more than our government could take in, the Fed inexplicably decided to aid him in running these record deficits. So it accelerated its monetary growth towards panic-like levels, even directly creating new dollars to monetize Treasuries. All of this inflation is already baked into the system, and it will inevitably keep bidding up general price levels.

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The election may be over, but our worries about the imminent explosion of the debt bomb have just begun. Every major economist and the US Treasury all concede that the U.S. will run a $1.5 trillion deficit for the foreseeable future, inflating the U.S. debt to a staggering $28 trillion by 2018. If you think this is just a meaningless number on a spreadsheet, ask yourself if paying $9 for a gallon of gas is meaningless to you and your family. Because as any experienced investor will tell you, the price of both gasoline and gold are directly correlated to U.S. debt more than any other variable. Doing simple math based upon long-standing historical trends, conservative estimates put gas at $9/gallon and gold at $3800 an ounce as the U.S. debt bomb explodes. Want proof? Right before the 2008 election Debt was $8T, Gas was $2.40 and Gold was $850... Now debt is $16T, gas is $4.90 and gold is $1700! What happens when Debt hits 28T?!
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The people who should be really freaking out are the ones who aren't holding gold in their portfolios – it's the portfolio owners who saw nothing but red after the election who need to worry.


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Thread: GENERATION DEBT: Every American Under 18 Now Owes $218,676
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I am of the opinion that money will be inflated out of existence by corrupt governments and central bankers, so we should be buying physical assets like farmland, houses, commodities, precious metals, and energy. We should avoid bonds or any fixed-dollar return like bonds. In a way, one wishes that a single president or re-election could make all of these things go away, but that's just not going to happen. The world's problems are now much bigger than the presidency, and they continue to pile on in a similar way to what we witnessed during the '70s.

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James Turk: crunch time for US in 2013-15 timeframe

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Thread: 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 are the dates to watch
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There is no reason to expect that renewed efforts at federal budget deficit reduction will result in anything more than the usual smoke and mirrors, further increasing, not reducing, long-term U.S. sovereign-solvency risk. In reality, the U.S. economy has not recovered, and no recovery is pending. Consumer liquidity remains severely impaired, and broad business activity continues to falter anew. As a result. the actual federal budget deficit going forward will be much worse than the relatively rosy numbers being used as the basis for government negotiations

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Germany's experience with hyperinflation that collapsed their Reichmark in the Fall of 1923 showed that PMs can rise over 100 times faster than the currency can fall in purchasing power. Before the Reichmark became totally worthless, a person could buy an entire downtown city block in Berlin for 100 ounces of gold
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armstrong is a clever man and famously called the 1987 market crash but his dates do not always line up with market turns ,tops or bottoms.

he had a big date in 2011 that did not coincide with an important market turn date.

there are a couple of other cycle analysts out there who do good work but i would not base investment decisions on their work.
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bump
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michael mandeville and john hampson (solarcycles.net) do good work in the field of cycle research
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michael mandeville and john hampson (solarcycles.net) do good work in the field of cycle research
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Please post his turning points here - do any align with Armstrong's?
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