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Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 11/11/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the beauty of it is people can join me for almost nothing at all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24520447 all i ask is that you pay for your own little cabin or shed or whatever you are going to live in how much could that possibly cost? 2 maybe 3 thousand? Hell im buying the land. animals seeds well etc you will have zoning problems building a bunch of single family homes on 10 acres No it would be non restricted land Better make sure of that, even rural areas may have stipulations. Where were you planning on doing this? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cheap solar off grid? That's a myth! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12272678 I have built a 1kw offgrid for my home back up and it ain't cheap and even enough to run much through out a day No its not a solar set up could be tops 3-4 grand what? we need power to run a city? How about enough for one community fridge and to charge our cells and lappies i mean really This is about living simy not living lime a.millionaire if thwt were the caee ill stay here and be a slave so i can keep my tv on 24-7 just because Why can't you find out if some in your family would want to do something like this? My family unfortunately are part of the %99 zombies i see i might have to do this all alone and just get a.fucking dog |
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Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 11/11/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cheap solar off grid? That's a myth! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12272678 I have built a 1kw offgrid for my home back up and it ain't cheap and even enough to run much through out a day No its not a solar set up could be tops 3-4 grand what? we need power to run a city? How about enough for one community fridge and to charge our cells and lappies i mean really This is about living simy not living lime a.millionaire if thwt were the caee ill stay here and be a slave so i can keep my tv on 24-7 just because Why can't you find out if some in your family would want to do something like this? My family unfortunately are part of the %99 zombies i see i might have to do this all alone and just get a.fucking dog If you're serious, why not try to buy land next to those of like-minded individuals? I would have to assume someone serious wouldn't want a "land baron" anyway, no offense...I know I wouldn't. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the beauty of it is people can join me for almost nothing at all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24520447 all i ask is that you pay for your own little cabin or shed or whatever you are going to live in how much could that possibly cost? 2 maybe 3 thousand? Hell im buying the land. animals seeds well etc you will have zoning problems building a bunch of single family homes on 10 acres No it would be non restricted land Better make sure of that, even rural areas may have stipulations. Where were you planning on doing this? all the states have some raw land that has no zoning or restrictions i am open to do it anywhere i can get at oeast ten acres wooded and fertile for under 20k cash that would leave me money for a solar setup a well if i had help we could save money and dig the well thenold.fashioned way id still have money to build a one room cabin and buy animals and seed to get started and a forrest gump tiny tractormfor thenreally hard work |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm slowly building up my bushie skillz. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2986923 Hope I don't ever need 'em, but I'll have 'em. Thats kool but im lookibg for few people who are fed up and willing to walk away from society and do our own self sustaining micro farm as stated id be willing to flip for the land in full and still have money for some solar wind and a few other odds and ends no need to break our backs building either we could do little one room cabins very simply what area of the country? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Have the perfect spot op northern foot hills of south carolina |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27000113 United States 11/11/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm slowly building up my bushie skillz. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2986923 Hope I don't ever need 'em, but I'll have 'em. Thats kool but im lookibg for few people who are fed up and willing to walk away from society and do our own self sustaining micro farm as stated id be willing to flip for the land in full and still have money for some solar wind and a few other odds and ends no need to break our backs building either we could do little one room cabins very simply could you imagine all the social issues that come with a community of non family members trying to do this? what happens if someone puts in money towards it then you can't get along with them? That's why you build a thunderdome for your off grid commune. When two men cannot live together in peace, there is always the cage. Two men enter... one man leaves. What's funny about that is MasterBlaster was 2 men then you had Mad Max. In that case, it was 3 men enter, and it was going to be 2 men leave, but Max spared Blaster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2986923 Australia 11/11/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm slowly building up my bushie skillz. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2986923 Hope I don't ever need 'em, but I'll have 'em. Thats kool but im lookibg for few people who are fed up and willing to walk away from society and do our own self sustaining micro farm as stated id be willing to flip for the land in full and still have money for some solar wind and a few other odds and ends no need to break our backs building either we could do little one room cabins very simply could you imagine all the social issues that come with a community of non family members trying to do this? what happens if someone puts in money towards it then you can't get along with them? Exactly. It would turn out Wild West I'm sure. When I say bushie skillz I mean just me and the bush in delicate embrace. Maybe hook up with and do some trade with some folks occasionally but that's IT. |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 11/11/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ you will have zoning problems building a bunch of single family homes on 10 acres No it would be non restricted land Better make sure of that, even rural areas may have stipulations. Where were you planning on doing this? all the states have some raw land that has no zoning or restrictions i am open to do it anywhere i can get at oeast ten acres wooded and fertile for under 20k cash that would leave me money for a solar setup a well if i had help we could save money and dig the well thenold.fashioned way id still have money to build a one room cabin and buy animals and seed to get started and a forrest gump tiny tractormfor thenreally hard work It would be a good idea not to assume, as far as I know everything in Pennsylvania is zoned SOMETHING and depending on what the zoning is, you can or cannot do/build things. Just because it's wild and free doesn't mean you can do whatever you want, not anymore anyway :( |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12272678 United States 11/11/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, for THAT money you will be able to run a small fridge and charge your laptop and have light assuming you have a clear sunny day everyday. During cloudy days you will need to switch it to gas generator or you food will spoil. Your batteries is the most expensive cost in the off grid solar/wind and they only last about 5 years depending on the brand |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | up and it ain't cheap and even enough to run much through out a day No its not a solar set up could be tops 3-4 grand what? we need power to run a city? How about enough for one community fridge and to charge our cells and lappies i mean really This is about living simy not living lime a.millionaire if thwt were the caee ill stay here and be a slave so i can keep my tv on 24-7 just because Why can't you find out if some in your family would want to do something like this? My family unfortunately are part of the %99 zombies i see i might have to do this all alone and just get a.fucking dog If you're serious, why not try to buy land next to those of like-minded individuals? I would have to assume someone serious wouldn't want a "land baron" anyway, no offense...I know I wouldn't. Have back issues so doing it all.by myself is going to be extremely difficult would rather have people.who want to get away from it all and we can all do what we can at our own ace helping out one another |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, for THAT money you will be able to run a small fridge and charge your laptop and have light assuming you have a clear sunny day everyday. During cloudy days you will need to switch it to gas generator or you food will spoil. Your batteries is the most expensive cost in the off grid solar/wind and they only last about 5 years depending on the brand Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12272678 when the shit hits the fan nobody will have electricity |
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MaryAlananB User ID: 3282902 United States 11/11/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how regulated farming is? Selling of farm animals especially? I just put in 1,100 watts of solar with a 432 amp hour 24 volt battery bank, 1kw pure sine inverter. Total when all was said and done was just over $3k. Be better off finding a small community under 300 and buying a house there. Most of them band together during hard times. Had a tornado go thru here July 1st 2010 and I had a huge pile of tree debris out by the street to haul. People know I am disabled and I woke up the next morning and it was gone. Someone hauled it for me in the middle of the night. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | up and it ain't cheap and even enough to run much through out a day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24520447 No its not a solar set up could be tops 3-4 grand what? we need power to run a city? How about enough for one community fridge and to charge our cells and lappies i mean really This is about living simy not living lime a.millionaire if thwt were the caee ill stay here and be a slave so i can keep my tv on 24-7 just because Why can't you find out if some in your family would want to do something like this? My family unfortunately are part of the %99 zombies i see i might have to do this all alone and just get a.fucking dog If you're serious, why not try to buy land next to those of like-minded individuals? I would have to assume someone serious wouldn't want a "land baron" anyway, no offense...I know I wouldn't. Have back issues so doing it all.by myself is going to be extremely difficult would rather have people.who want to get away from it all and we can all do what we can at our own ace helping out one another I have the spot, Op |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19980561 United States 11/11/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About doing it or do most of you just talk shit about it and never intend on making it a reality Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24520447 im offerig to buy land and share it with a few people so that we can make this a reality i would lime wooded and fertile at least 10 acres for farming and firewood i will pay for the land in full and still have a few bucks to contribute but i can not do it alonee i need a few people willing to live the slow and peaceful life a few farm animals we could grow crops and small game for market make cheese have solar and wind and generally live quietly as life was meant to be They wont let you. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Why would i pay anyone rent? I would not even charge those that went in with ke rent all i ask is we work as a community to oay the taxes and our expenses running thenfarm there would be no mortgage at all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Why would i pay anyone rent? I would not even charge those that went in with ke rent all i ask is we work as a community to oay the taxes and our expenses running thenfarm there would be no mortgage at all I guess you are not interested in SC |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm slowly building up my bushie skillz. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2986923 Hope I don't ever need 'em, but I'll have 'em. Thats kool but im lookibg for few people who are fed up and willing to walk away from society and do our own self sustaining micro farm as stated id be willing to flip for the land in full and still have money for some solar wind and a few other odds and ends no need to break our backs building either we could do little one room cabins very simply what area of the country? Im open as long as its wooded fertile and.under 20k so i can pay in full up front |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm slowly building up my bushie skillz. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2986923 Hope I don't ever need 'em, but I'll have 'em. Thats kool but im lookibg for few people who are fed up and willing to walk away from society and do our own self sustaining micro farm as stated id be willing to flip for the land in full and still have money for some solar wind and a few other odds and ends no need to break our backs building either we could do little one room cabins very simply what area of the country? Im open as long as its wooded fertile and.under 20k so i can pay in full up front How about The foot hills of South carolina, warm weather year around lots of streams... lots of farm land cheap.... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24520447 United States 11/11/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Have the perfect spot op northern foot hills of south carolina You have property for sale? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292637 United States 11/11/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting. You need to do a lot of planning - I've been planning for something like this for 3-4 years now, the more you look into it the more you realize you don't know. Knowing how to Save seeds, animal husbandry, using hand tools, natural food preservation methods, understanding permaculture, and learning how to make most things from scratch are just the tip of the iceberg. "The Encyclopedia of Country Living" is a great book that will get anyone started down the path. I have the opposite problem as you: I have lots of skills and knowledge but little money for land and livestock. I've just spent the majority of my money on seeds and tools in preparation for going off grid. Water is a huge concern, need lots of it. Wood for fire, and of course space if you want any livestock or a meaningful harvest of grains. Bees are a great thing to keep around, honey can be sold. Many veggies can be sold at Farmers Market, etc, and seeds can be sold online for income. Ive been reading a lot of opinions on the topic and it seems the consensus is that the longer you sit around thinking about doing something like this, you will never do it. People just need to dive in head first and never look back - yes it will be hard at first but you life will be SO MUCH MORE REWARDING. This is what I want, I envy you and wish you the best of luck in your project sir, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24771361 United States 11/11/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Why would i pay anyone rent? I would not even charge those that went in with ke rent all i ask is we work as a community to oay the taxes and our expenses running thenfarm there would be no mortgage at all The place is built and already functional, its turn key. Its located in the country area of the breadbasket of the foreign country. You want to farm, I will find you a couple acres and an Ox. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/11/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is you dont have an issue with a foreign country, I have land and a building already constructed. I am renting out 1500 square feet apartments. I am serious, reply if you are to and I will register and contact you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24771361 Have the perfect spot op northern foot hills of south carolina You have property for sale? Go to craigs list and start looking.. look in the upstate areas millions of acres of backwoods communities |