Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(

Smart move on his part. She was told before voting that Obamcare would hurt him and his employees and yet she ignored it. If my husband deliberately and knowingly voted to harm a business I had spent years building up I would conclude (rightly)that he didn't care about me. Why stay married to someone who obviously doesn't care about you.

seems to me HE is well shed of her

A prenump.......?

The guy has issues.........fuck him. Who the fuck marries with expectation of a potential divorce?

That is NOT marriage, it is an obamanation of marriage.

Yes, I spelled it Obamanation.

Because this Obama Nation is an Abomination!!!!

Wow! Talk about a nation divided...

quote:Anonymous Coward 27446380:MV8yMDQ4NDI3XzM0NDIxNjUyXzczMzg2MDc2]
Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.

No thats fucking stupid. So is he going to ask every woman he dates who she voted for?

SANE RICH PEOPLE??

She has a job, she does hair/manicures but she pretty much took that up for the social part of it. She only makes about $30K a year herself and pretty much was happy to live off her husband. That's why I can't understand why she voted in a manner that would hurt her husband's business, even if her one vote didn't affect the outcome. By the way, he's not the kind if guy to demand she do anything. He's angry because he knew that SHE knew how Obamacare would hurt the company, which would not only hurt him and her, but his workers. He's really upset about having to cut people, but he has no choice.

And yeah, people don't know how much it's gonna hurt businesses...

A LOT... AND I MEAN A LOT of businesses are gonna close shop in 2013...


IMO unemployment will be at least 10%+ officially (unless they cook the numbers really hard) at the end of 2013.

OP, WHAT is he going to do when a client comes in and wants a big job done, and he CAN'T DO IT, because he doesn't HAVE and won't hire enough employees?? THEN word gets around that he's refusing jobs. AND screwing his employees.

He WILL end up going out of business anyway, OR take a BIG cut in 'his share' of the business (profit, OR lack of profit).

So OBVIOUSLY your Brother is a BAD businessman, and doesn't DESERVE to own and run a business of this scale, and should go back to working out of his garage.



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Actually, yes. It shows ones fundamental underlying beliefs and understanding of the world. In my opinion, libs do want to help people, but their policy ideas do not take into account human nature and the real world -- so the help actually hurts in the long run. I prefer someone in my life who understands this basic principle and shares my goals for myself specifically and for the rest of my countrymen.

So you want a subserviant mouse who believes in everything you do, can tell your a woman. The whole point of us being different people is the fact that we are different.

What you seem to want is a planet full of clones that praise you and do as they are told, and then buy you a new pair of shoes each week.

quote:Anonymous Coward 27446380:MV8yMDQ4NDI3XzM0NDIxNjUyXzczMzg2MDc2]
Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.

LOL at your made up story.

The time for your lies was before Election Day..

What Republicon think tank is paying you to shill here liar?

Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.

And yeah, people don't know how much it's gonna hurt businesses...

A LOT... AND I MEAN A LOT of businesses are gonna close shop in 2013...


IMO unemployment will be at least 10%+ officially (unless they cook the numbers really hard) at the end of 2013.

First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.