Sorry White House Petitioners, There's No Way To Secede From The United States

You should do a one in, one out thing. Peurto Rico in, Texas out. Think of the money you'll save not having to redesign all those flags.

It's my personal belief .. If a state (govna`, peeps etc) had the balls to give the finger to the feds .. and STOP PAYING TAXES, FEES ETC .. they could do it!

yea yea yea
we've heard that before

right before the Confederacy
fired some cannons at Ft. Fisher

Just watch it happen

Petitioning for secession is like asking to break up with your girlfriend.

You don't ASK, you just DO IT.

LMAO, what is worse,being part of the United states or being surrounded by the United states?

How about when California falls into the Pacific, would that be a successful attempt to secede?

Obomo would cast a fish hook out there
to catch them and reel them back in.

or send some subs to push the shelf back
in place

not being able to seperate from an abusive partner is prima faciae evidence youre in an abusive relationship and SHOULD break up.

There is no liberty if youre not allowed to do what's best for you.

if youre not doing what's best for you, then youre forced into doing what's best for someone else by default..

geez
are you sure you are not kin to
Sigmund Freud ??

Zo, tell me ven you had first noted your zence of intrrrrinsic inferrriority...?

Day-um

you even sound like him too

hope you aren't charging me by the hr

only because I dont have your name or addrress.
The main differences between SF and me, is that I've never been a drug addict and I hate cigars.

This.

You think they keep you in fear now just think how scared you will be with the worlds leading terrorists as your neighbors. Better hope you dont find any valuable resources in the new land you just took from them.

And also just because the traitors in the north destroyed the south does not mean we have lost our constitutional right to secede. Sorry lincoln your lifes work is null and void

that asshat lincoln made folk like FDR possible.

JW Booth was a hero

Sic Semper Tyrannis

This is just mainstream clap trap. If states want to remove themselves from the Union then that is up to them, its certainly not up to any court or anyone else for that matter which can be corrupted, lol.

Its up to the states themselves not anyone else, rofl.

The Brit is absolutely right. Just as an individual cannot sign away his constitutional rights, neither can a state and that is still a part of our constitution....though the Big O doesn't seem to think it exists anymore.

Right on both of you...spoken like true brothers......You know the truth.

K*C

Everyone with any intelligence is aware that WE CAN'T secede peacefully from the Union.

What this is... is an attempt by those that feel they have no power to voice their opinion against the direction this country is being led by this President.

The danger in signing those petitions is that you gave the government your name.

Not so, just accomplish the same by turning the proposition on its head.

Don't secede, expel. Or, expectorate (spit it out) if you prefer that image. Basically, throw out every blue area of every state until what is left is America.

More detail after T-day. I've gotta get back to fixing the ham. Yah, yah. Not a turkey this year. I need the variety, OK?
*******************To follow up w/ my pre-Tday post I submit the following:
Don’t secede as states, at least not yet. But, accomplish the same thing in the mid term by kicking out every blue “urban area” that is for big, expensive, totalitarian (eventually) Fed government.

Think on this model: Vatican City is a sovereign state w/in the city of Rome, a capital city w/in the nation of Italy. Everybody gets along fine in the long term so long as they each mind their own business. They interact w/ each other thru international treaties; not oversight from a centralized (potentially totalitarian) body.
A similar relationship exists between Washington, D.C. and the rest of the USA. That District is outside any state – even tho it was cobbled together from bits of states. They have their own local government. They do not have any Senate representation and only a non-voting position in the House. For any national involvement they depend entirely upon Congress.

Apply those models to each red state.

To start, surely there is more than one predominantly red state that contains w/in it a modest, blue urban area. The test case. Convene a state assembly whose goal is to expel that area from the rest of the state. I sincerely doubt that there is any Fed constitutional provision that constrains what a state can do w/in its own borders so long as what they do doesn’t violate any existing Fed law. After all, when the state joined up many of those urban areas probably didn’t even exist. As to what happens to the expelled area, don’t care what happens to it, not my problem. Eventually, it will probably become another District w/in the US Fed – like Washington, D.C. Still US citizens. Still paying Fed taxes. But, nothing but neighbors to the enclosing reformed state. Oh, and they are not being disenfranchised. They don’t pay state taxes so they don’t need state representation.

The state convention will not officially consider a secession from the US. In fact, it ought to formally forbid any such open discussion so no Fed marshals show up to arrest seditionists. Each successive state convention will refine the process – learning from each that preceded it. During this process, the relationship w/ all of the other 49 states will remain the same, as will the relationship w/ the Fed.

Keep in mind what is going on between all those new Districts and the “remaining” states (i.e., don’t forget, until a total breakup occurs we are all 50 states and some Districts). Urban centers produce little food. They will have to import it from the surrounding red areas. Ditto for energy. As to jobs, they can either let nearby “ferriners” commute in to do the non-industrial paper-pushing that is all urban centers do nowadays or they can do w/out that tax base, too. They can fuss and piss about all they want. But, unless they are willing to relive the Berlin airlift they will have to grow up right quick and get along w/ their new neighbors in a new way. How they do that can be a detailed sidebar discussion at each successive convention.

Last Edited by bobbo666 on 11/26/2012 11:48 AM

"all the guaranties of republican government"

They broke that agreement so it's off.......with their heads.

Give me a choice on chemtrails or give me a new government.