I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..

I think we shall see marvelous things..that defy all logic and reason . Spiritual happenings that will implement His will on this crazy world where humility has become a dirty word

We can all change and recognize

we are supposed to be

humble

kind

gentle

loving

meek

caring

nuturing

compassionate

merciful

understanding

loving

and more loving

And each and everytime we stray in this endevour ..to turn back and do it all again. Practice makes perfect.

To place others before us.

To love others more than we love ourselves.

To forgive others as we would want to be forgiven

To give without asking in return

To value people not for what they possess in material wealth BUT IN SPIRITUAL WEALTH

To Love them even when they are poor, jobless,sick or ill or when they get old and unattractive. To love them when they are cranky or moody, when they upset us or hurt our feelings.. to forgive them and to continue loving and being there for them unconditionally at the drop of a hat, with humility and love as Christ is there for us..always


To love them just because, because you can not not love them

Because without love one dies within

the love that IS, the love that lasts and is indestructable..that doesnt depend on external factors that vary and sometimes are no longer there.

To always love

unconditionally

The greatest gift..to be able to feel this and be this

Look at them salivating for war and bloodshed while uttering Gods name

The two dont click

Are they trying to fool us

or fool themselves because they sure as heck arent fooling God

I agree with part of your post in that the bible we have today has been altered and manipulated, and yes, we must reach back to the Hebraic writings for the truest message frm the Most High. And I agree that we were provided a means of knowing Him, without having a bible in our hands; I mean, people from time immemorial have known him without ever reading the bible. However, what we do with that knowledge of Him, is important and decides our eternal future. This means of forum though, is not the best way to teach anybody the way to God......what you say, what i say, what candace says........is all subjective to anyone's own interpretation. I mean, I am not going to follow your teachings nor Candace's teachings cause I really have no clue to where your destination truly lies. Anybody can spout peace and love and be full of pure hatred. Candace's posts are definitive of that.

That is why I say there MUST be a plumb line. And you are either on one side of that line, or the other.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

You utterly fail to understand who Mary was and is!

Mary had sinned. This is not hard to prove. You have heard that Jesus was tempted, right? You have read the Bible, right? [link to www.biblegateway.com] If you don't like that version, then check it out in your Catholic version...Jesus was tempted by the devil.

God can NOT be tempted [link to www.biblegateway.com] read James 1:13 ...again...if you don't like that version, then use your Catholic version.

Now Jesus is God AND MAN. Where did Jesus get the ability to be tempted? If God cannot be tempted...then Jesus must have gotten the ability to be tempted from the lineage of...Mary.

Now...Leviticus 12 is the Mosaic Law on child birth...
[link to www.biblegateway.com]

And then we come along to [link to www.biblegateway.com] Read Luke 2:24. Mary offered up a sacrifice offering...for being impure after child birth. If she didn't need to offer up the offering...then she lied and made a mockery of God's Law! If she did need the offering...God considered Mary impure after giving birth...so much for Mary being "without blemish."

dreams speak in your own imagery
the only way to judge anothers' dream
is to become yourself the dreamer

i once had a dream in which
a character was named Nur Uriel
he claimed no angelic powers
he was a black cat
he spoke no words and carried no sword
but where he walked
things changed for the better

war is a horror
whether waged by man
or an army of angry angels
i see no moral high ground
no noble purpose
only destruction

faith tells me God is better than this scenario
that Jesus was truly His Son
that the Spirit is alive on earth
and a way will be found to peace
that will amaze us all

What name would I know you by?

Should I remind you that um...there are wars raging in the Middle East right now? Should I remind you that the U.S. is involved with several armed conflicts and are sending money and ammunition out there?

So far, it doesn't appear as if your dream has any merit. But...thanks for posting.

good lordy this thread got stupid over night with the bible crowd. Can you ones not reason? I am not adding any more to it, it would serve no purpose. But I wish to state that yesterday I treated some as I have been treated, in hopes they would learn something. It didn't seem to work. However, it is joyous to see those that know God. Good work Orvontonian. I bet you ones don't know what Orvonton is? I have tired on that, didn't take.


OP continues to hold his ground. Good for him. He has gone much much further than most who label themselves Christians. He is striving for his perfection. I suspect he is star seed actually.

I AM THAT I AM, is the label for spiritually mature people. Not religion, not party systems of politics, stop beloveds defining yourselves by following and stand in your own shoes here. YOU ARE SONS OF GOD and no other definition is needed.

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Serenty, I just can't resist today again. Shut the fuck up, you know not of what you speak. Your ignorance as to God is stunning.

Oh, I'd say what would make ME SO SURE are...The results.

For instance: BIG WARS RAGING IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW...

So far, I don't see any angels stopping it. Many people have already died, and many people will continue to.

Therefore...either the dream is a lie from fallen angels. OR...it was JUST A DREAM. Additionally, after reading the OPs expansion upon that "dream," it appears that it was more like a FANTASY that the OP was making up as they were going along.

And...as USUAL, many of you FELL FOR IT. See how easy it is to be fooled by RELIGION???

Now that cracks me up because its genuinely funny.

MY IGNORANCE OF GOD???...

Here you are supporting a guy that just said ANGELS WERE GOING TO STOP THE WARS and BRING PEACE. -Surprise!!! Ding...ding...ding. There's a full scale war in the Middle East of which NO ANGELS ARE HALTING. Do you see any angels...because, um...I don't know. There's lots of missiles and people being blown to bits...but, no angels.

WOW...I guess REALITY is just conjecture to you guys.



I think the person who has just displayed their utter ignorance in their own religion would be YOU for falling for ANOTHER FALSE PROPHET.

Ever THINK of that one???

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I dont make stories up regarding matters of God.
But your choice to disbelieve or think it is a demon

You are correct, I didn't see your post on worshiping and veneration. I must of missed it. I will search for it so I can read it.

I have no ego in this matter. Not once have I placed myself on a pedestal or claimed I was anything special or that I was perfect in any way shape or form. Decimate is a strong word...if you re-read what I wrote I think you'll see a scriptural basis for my words, and nothing that in any way personally attacks or debases the OP as a person. I have brotherly love for the OP, and as a brother want him/her to be sure. Cautionary advice is not considered hostile (at least not by me).

If you find something I posted that refutes what I just wrote, please point it out so I can correct it. You also incorrectly claim I responded to Semper Fi's quote as "I believe it was Joshua", when in fact I claimed I believed it was from Hosea (but I wasn't sure which verse). I just looked it up and it is Hosea 4:6.

You claim many things about Mary that I don't know about. Can you point me to the scripture that says Mary was born without sin and should be "venerated", be prayed to, or should be the one who sinner's should ask for forgiveness? Or where she is listed as the intercessory to God for such things? I am genuinely curious to read what the scripture has to say about her, and I don't recall reading anything before, so I ask humbly for you to help me find these answers in the Word.

These are the verses I stand on:

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through me" (John 14:6)

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5)

You and the Catholic Church may feel otherwise, and that is your choice to make. I don't believe God requires anyone to go through a "saint", a priest, an angel of God, or any human for anything, but only through His Son, Jesus Christ so that they may be saved.

I think (my opinion) that a significant source of anguish expressed in Paul's letters, and Peter's writings is these false "rules" and "regulations" and "new traditions" which were appearing in the early churches (body of worshipers) which they saw as going completely against the words of Jesus Himself.

It is my belief that God doesn't need rituals. God doesn't need prayers to Mary, St. This, or St. That. God wants obedience to His Word, and acceptance of His Son. It is my belief that anything beyond that is added by man, and subject to corruption.

You of course are free to worship as you see fit (free will).

One thing I'll mention is the fairly constant theme of a handful of people in this thread that keep claiming some are here to derail the thread, that they are hostile towards the OP, that those who don't immediately accept the OP's vision as genuinely from God (without discernment) are vile, from evil (and yes, *sigh* won't get to board the spaceship)...

I don't recall one post from real followers of Christ where any derogatory comments or cursing, or disparaging comments were made about the OP him/her self.

I read plenty of comments that basically amounted to "make sure you discern who the spirit is from" which is soundly scriptural, and that advice was turned against them.

Since when is advice, whether it be contrary to someone's current belief, or in harmony with their belief, considered hostile?

Peace and love through Christ,and may the Lord bless you AC.

Oh...BUT YOU DID. Because so far...neither your words OR YOUR DREAM is reflective of REALITY.

You see...either you were being fed information by FALSE SOURCES, or, you literally spoke an untruth because you wanted attention.

God ONLY SPEAKS TRUTH. And so far, I have seen you speak MULTIPLE fallacies. Reality is currently CONTRADICTING YOUR DREAM. Do you have anything to say about that Harold Camping???

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Sorry forgot to sign in...

One thing I have learned is to not doubt Angelic messages. The only difficulty is the timing. That is the problem the when. There is a difficulty in translating time in our terms.

Harold Camping? sorry you lost me on that one.
Can you tell me who he is please? thank you.
Obviously if you are suggesting I am Harold Camping lol..nope sorry

I don't doubt angelic messages. I just DOUBT YOUR INTERPRETATION of the dream state versus reality.

Right now you have a full scale war in the Middle East. --No Peace...No Angels.--

Right now you have a situation that contradicts every word you typed.

The ONE thing I will give you is this...and you should have STUCK BY IT. Your initial statement was, "I have had I THINK a prophetic dream." -That simple word "think" was your out in all of this. But instead...you began pounding out more details as if you were spoken to directly by angels.

Look at ya now...

if you believe what is happening today in the Middle East is a FULL SCALE WAR...well...you have no idea of what war means.

The current situation over there is still far from what a full scale war means...

WON´T REACH THAT POINT...WON´T BE A FULL SCALE WAR...

THE ANGELIC REALM IS READY FOR ACTION...

YOU SHOULD MEDITATE ON THIS ASKING GOD TO SHOW YOU THIS...

YOU MAY SEE THE ANGELIC LEGIONS...AND FEEL THEIR LOVE FOR US!

lol I googled. So you think I am a male radio host from California huh?

Nope

You have another two guesses

made me laf..lol

For you... [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Here's a brief story on him. He caused a worldwide fuss when he claimed that he KNEW the rapture was going to happen on May 21, 2011.

Millions of people believed it. They sold their stuff and followed his beliefs and words.

May 21, 2011 came...NO EARTHQUAKE, NO RAPTURE. OOPS...

FALSE PROPHET...
[link to www.ibtimes.com]

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 11/18/2012 10:42 AM

Oh, not a war???...so what is it? Guys just throwing around the football skins? In that case...why don't you sign up and go hang out with the rest of the party!!!

Nonetheless...I REALLY don't think you want to do this. So...I'm letting you off the hook.

You don't have an arguable position, and there's no actual point that you're making that needs addressed. If you have an opinion, back it up. In the case of me with the OP, I can prove points that a war is occurring where people are dying, and there ARE NO ANGELS saving the day.

In your case...we could just go round and round with me posting all sorts of evidence that you'll ignore and try to argue a middle ground, gray area perspective that will just make you look dumber and dumber.

Don't have time for those sort of games. I'm actually trying to let people know that there are false prophets about. And right now...You're supporting one.

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 11/18/2012 10:46 AM

Oh right I remember that being mentioned here on Glp, forgot the name.

I do what I think I am supposed to do, call it inspired call it impetuos whatever. I felt inspired to post the dream and I did. I knew it would be attacked and me with it. But Im not bothered. I do what I think I should do.

As to you disagreeing that it is prophetic there is nothing wrong with that. Its your opinion to make.

I believe it is prophetic and I believe sooner or later something regarding God and His Creation will happen that will change everything. And I am taking this very seriously . Something that will make wars no longer possible.As the Angel said not permitted. That is my belief. You can have yours. I think it is not far off whatever it is.

I hope someday you will see...BUT NOT SURE...

The path toward the Light and the path spiraling further into darkness have now come to a distinct point of separation.

You are being forced to face, once and for all, the residual shadows of Self—all the imbalances and restrictions that are holding you back from fully empowered Self-realization.

Being a Self-master is not for the timid or weak of heart.