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Lisa From Indiana (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a news interview from yesterday, Monserat was dressed nicely in an expensive pair of jeans. If Monserat had a suitcase of more than three days worth of clothes (or clothing that is not seasonably useful this time of year), then this also would be suspicious. They went to a casino in southern Indiana for three days when explosion took place. I wonder what clothing items (or jewelry) does Monserat still possess? And/or what jewelry items may she want to claim in the insurance settlement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27352798 United States 11/21/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. |
Lisa From Indiana (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. I do enjoy figuring things out. I guess you could say I am a sleuther! FYI My favorite TV show is NCIS. Go figure! |
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Lisa From Indiana (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also find it suspicious that the "white van" was in the driveway the day of the explosion as a TV was being moved. So.... the homeowners were not present when two mysterious men moved a TV from the house. I wonder what else these two mysterious men ( who were probably Mark's brother and Mark Gill - former partners in crime) were moving from the house. I wonder what information Mark or Monserat gave to police to explain why a TV was being removed from house (with Mark's white van) when Mark was not present and supposedly at a casino. I would be curious to know what vehicle was driven to the casino ( perhaps a car Monserat owns). It is too cold to ride a Harley packed with three days of clothes to be appropraitely worn for gambling. As for sleuthing.... we need Abbey from NCIS. She would have this figured out in no time! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18728399 Philippines 11/21/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also find it suspicious that the "white van" was in the driveway the day of the explosion as a TV was being moved. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 So.... the homeowners were not present when two mysterious men moved a TV from the house. I wonder what else these two mysterious men ( who were probably Mark's brother and Mark Gill - former partners in crime) were moving from the house. I wonder what information Mark or Monserat gave to police to explain why a TV was being removed from house (with Mark's white van) when Mark was not present and supposedly at a casino. I would be curious to know what vehicle was driven to the casino ( perhaps a car Monserat owns). It is too cold to ride a Harley packed with three days of clothes to be appropraitely worn for gambling. As for sleuthing.... we need Abbey from NCIS. She would have this figured out in no time! I am wondering where they launched the drone from. |
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SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27352205 United States 11/21/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. Hey Lisa from Indiana! Interesting logic. Only problem being, that when folks are what you call "Live-in-Boyrfriends" they ususally DON'T TRUST THE NEW LOVER with something as valuable as a Harley! He's probably got his own residence--maybe the "trailer park" where they arrested some "persons of interest" in the investigation. I've been running a thread since the night the explosion happened on GLP. Thread: UHOH..."Big-Wig" Resignations....a 12-3-12 "CODE" in Deep Impact & CALIF Quake? (Page 6) My immediately "hinky"--SINCE COINCIDENTALLY I HAD STARTED MY FIRST THREAD EVER ON GLP ABOUT THE "DEEP IMPACT!" was that this was a METEOR FRAGMENT that came down (or had been SHOT DOWN BY MILITARY) in several pieces on this neighborhood. This "hit" wasn't big enough to cause a CRATER ....but one of the posters on my thread said the "kenetic energy" (from velocity of mass) would be large enough to cause a blast. Also, Lisa, I had a UTUBE video from one of the neighbors that night that actually captured ON THE TAPE a green meteor flying in the background even as the firefighters were fighting the fires! IT was odd to see this thing just fly over like nobody even notices it...it's bright enough that the people filming said: "What's that GREEN THING?" (The UTUBE video was mysteriously taken down the next day....which I find pretty suspicious....like it's being covered-up!) I'm just keeping an open mind on this, even with FOX NEWS wanting to point fingers and blaim people who may have just been ordinary people caught in an "Act of God"--a meteor hit. It's all just very "fishy" to me--and I don't think that just letting several people become "collateral damage" so that the investigation can be closed is fair. Just sayin..... Cheers! SK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1637231 United States 11/21/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also find it suspicious that the "white van" was in the driveway the day of the explosion as a TV was being moved. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 So.... the homeowners were not present when two mysterious men moved a TV from the house. I wonder what else these two mysterious men ( who were probably Mark's brother and Mark Gill - former partners in crime) were moving from the house. I wonder what information Mark or Monserat gave to police to explain why a TV was being removed from house (with Mark's white van) when Mark was not present and supposedly at a casino. I would be curious to know what vehicle was driven to the casino ( perhaps a car Monserat owns). It is too cold to ride a Harley packed with three days of clothes to be appropraitely worn for gambling. As for sleuthing.... we need Abbey from NCIS. She would have this figured out in no time! I have heard that Monserrate and Mark drove separate vehicles to the casino that night. This website has some of the best information on the blast [link to getthetruthout.icyboards.net] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also find it suspicious that the "white van" was in the driveway the day of the explosion as a TV was being moved. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 So.... the homeowners were not present when two mysterious men moved a TV from the house. I wonder what else these two mysterious men ( who were probably Mark's brother and Mark Gill - former partners in crime) were moving from the house. I wonder what information Mark or Monserat gave to police to explain why a TV was being removed from house (with Mark's white van) when Mark was not present and supposedly at a casino. I would be curious to know what vehicle was driven to the casino ( perhaps a car Monserat owns). It is too cold to ride a Harley packed with three days of clothes to be appropraitely worn for gambling. As for sleuthing.... we need Abbey from NCIS. She would have this figured out in no time! I have heard that Monserrate and Mark drove separate vehicles to the casino that night. This website has some of the best information on the blast [link to getthetruthout.icyboards.net] Why would they drive separate vehicles unless they both needed cars and did not want them in the explosion. I read where there were supposedly had two expensive Harleys in the garage that have not been mentioned in the debris. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. Hey Lisa from Indiana! Interesting logic. Only problem being, that when folks are what you call "Live-in-Boyrfriends" they ususally DON'T TRUST THE NEW LOVER with something as valuable as a Harley! He's probably got his own residence--maybe the "trailer park" where they arrested some "persons of interest" in the investigation. I've been running a thread since the night the explosion happened on GLP. Thread: UHOH..."Big-Wig" Resignations....a 12-3-12 "CODE" in Deep Impact & CALIF Quake? (Page 6) My immediately "hinky"--SINCE COINCIDENTALLY I HAD STARTED MY FIRST THREAD EVER ON GLP ABOUT THE "DEEP IMPACT!" was that this was a METEOR FRAGMENT that came down (or had been SHOT DOWN BY MILITARY) in several pieces on this neighborhood. This "hit" wasn't big enough to cause a CRATER ....but one of the posters on my thread said the "kenetic energy" (from velocity of mass) would be large enough to cause a blast. Also, Lisa, I had a UTUBE video from one of the neighbors that night that actually captured ON THE TAPE a green meteor flying in the background even as the firefighters were fighting the fires! IT was odd to see this thing just fly over like nobody even notices it...it's bright enough that the people filming said: "What's that GREEN THING?" (The UTUBE video was mysteriously taken down the next day....which I find pretty suspicious....like it's being covered-up!) I'm just keeping an open mind on this, even with FOX NEWS wanting to point fingers and blaim people who may have just been ordinary people caught in an "Act of God"--a meteor hit. It's all just very "fishy" to me--and I don't think that just letting several people become "collateral damage" so that the investigation can be closed is fair. Just sayin..... Cheers! SK :coffeANDroses: I do agree that some things do not add up. FYI I did see the video ( that is now removed) which showed the "green flare". I am not sure how this fits into the current theory of a remote or pre-planned denotation of gas. FYI I was divorced for several years and was "conned" by a ruthless person on a particular dating website. I am not saying the Monserat is guilty of this act, but it is quite suspicious that the cached dating site feedback said that Mark Leonard scammed vulnerable women out of money, and that he and his friend, Mark Gill were previous partners in crime. She also stated that Mark could be responsible for another gas explosion were insurance money was paid in the past. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/21/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. Hey Lisa from Indiana! Interesting logic. Only problem being, that when folks are what you call "Live-in-Boyrfriends" they ususally DON'T TRUST THE NEW LOVER with something as valuable as a Harley! He's probably got his own residence--maybe the "trailer park" where they arrested some "persons of interest" in the investigation. I've been running a thread since the night the explosion happened on GLP. Thread: UHOH..."Big-Wig" Resignations....a 12-3-12 "CODE" in Deep Impact & CALIF Quake? (Page 6) My immediately "hinky"--SINCE COINCIDENTALLY I HAD STARTED MY FIRST THREAD EVER ON GLP ABOUT THE "DEEP IMPACT!" was that this was a METEOR FRAGMENT that came down (or had been SHOT DOWN BY MILITARY) in several pieces on this neighborhood. This "hit" wasn't big enough to cause a CRATER ....but one of the posters on my thread said the "kenetic energy" (from velocity of mass) would be large enough to cause a blast. Also, Lisa, I had a UTUBE video from one of the neighbors that night that actually captured ON THE TAPE a green meteor flying in the background even as the firefighters were fighting the fires! IT was odd to see this thing just fly over like nobody even notices it...it's bright enough that the people filming said: "What's that GREEN THING?" (The UTUBE video was mysteriously taken down the next day....which I find pretty suspicious....like it's being covered-up!) I'm just keeping an open mind on this, even with FOX NEWS wanting to point fingers and blaim people who may have just been ordinary people caught in an "Act of God"--a meteor hit. It's all just very "fishy" to me--and I don't think that just letting several people become "collateral damage" so that the investigation can be closed is fair. Just sayin..... Cheers! SK :coffeANDroses: I do agree that some things do not add up. FYI I did see the video ( that is now removed) which showed the "green flare". I am not sure how this fits into the current theory of a remote or pre-planned denotation of gas. FYI I was divorced for several years and was "conned" by a ruthless person on a particular dating website. I am not saying the Monserat is guilty of this act, but it is quite suspicious that the cached dating site feedback said that Mark Leonard scammed vulnerable women out of money, and that he and his friend, Mark Gill were previous partners in crime. She also stated that Mark could be responsible for another gas explosion were insurance money was paid in the past. |
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scorpio66 User ID: 2453057 United States 11/21/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, the "white van" belongs to Mark Leonard himself - his brother and friend seem to be the suspects seen in the van at the home a few hours before the explosion (turning on the gas, probs). They confiscated the van at a deserted hotel parking lot and the 2 folks picked up yesterday are the brother and friend. In one of the comments on of the local news sites, someone mentioned that he was suspected of stealing some other lady's harley but that's all I've seen about the harleys. She did have a harley jacket on in her first interview. She also said she only had the clothes in her suitcase. I can't imagine they didn't move some baby pictures and mementos at the very least. |
scorpio66 User ID: 2453057 United States 11/21/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so interesting. I've been to the Indiana casinos - all of them and you definitely do not need to dress up or have many changes of clothing with you for that trip. The casinos have cameras everywhere. Quoting: trebien They were staying the weekend. Mostly, it would seem, they chose the casino so they'd have an alibi though. Cameras everywhere. Anyway, my feeling is she was the lonely divorcee who fell for the bad guy who talked her into this and those bumbling fools had no idea what they were doing or that they'd blow the entire neighborhood up. Either way, guilty guilty guilty. eta: lisa, just saw you have the same "feeling" about her being led astray by the wrong guy. i just can't imagine a woman thinking this up on her own. pretty sure she knew what the plan was and agreed to it tho. Last Edited by scorpio66 on 11/21/2012 06:00 PM |
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SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27352205 United States 11/21/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. Hey Lisa from Indiana! Interesting logic. Only problem being, that when folks are what you call "Live-in-Boyrfriends" they ususally DON'T TRUST THE NEW LOVER with something as valuable as a Harley! He's probably got his own residence--maybe the "trailer park" where they arrested some "persons of interest" in the investigation. I've been running a thread since the night the explosion happened on GLP. Thread: UHOH..."Big-Wig" Resignations....a 12-3-12 "CODE" in Deep Impact & CALIF Quake? (Page 6) My immediately "hinky"--SINCE COINCIDENTALLY I HAD STARTED MY FIRST THREAD EVER ON GLP ABOUT THE "DEEP IMPACT!" was that this was a METEOR FRAGMENT that came down (or had been SHOT DOWN BY MILITARY) in several pieces on this neighborhood. This "hit" wasn't big enough to cause a CRATER ....but one of the posters on my thread said the "kenetic energy" (from velocity of mass) would be large enough to cause a blast. Also, Lisa, I had a UTUBE video from one of the neighbors that night that actually captured ON THE TAPE a green meteor flying in the background even as the firefighters were fighting the fires! IT was odd to see this thing just fly over like nobody even notices it...it's bright enough that the people filming said: "What's that GREEN THING?" (The UTUBE video was mysteriously taken down the next day....which I find pretty suspicious....like it's being covered-up!) I'm just keeping an open mind on this, even with FOX NEWS wanting to point fingers and blaim people who may have just been ordinary people caught in an "Act of God"--a meteor hit. It's all just very "fishy" to me--and I don't think that just letting several people become "collateral damage" so that the investigation can be closed is fair. Just sayin..... Cheers! SK I do agree that some things do not add up. FYI I did see the video ( that is now removed) which showed the "green flare". I am not sure how this fits into the current theory of a remote or pre-planned denotation of gas. FYI I was divorced for several years and was "conned" by a ruthless person on a particular dating website. I am not saying the Monserat is guilty of this act, but it is quite suspicious that the cached dating site feedback said that Mark Leonard scammed vulnerable women out of money, and that he and his friend, Mark Gill were previous partners in crime. She also stated that Mark could be responsible for another gas explosion were insurance money was paid in the past. There is a REASON why certain things ARE and ARE NOT permissible as EVIDENCE in a court of law. Do you know what they are? The references you are making, like "dating sites" and "facebook sites" are perfect examples of NOT ADMISSIBLE evidence under the law (that is unless this is a "witch hunt" and they are actually going to rig this whole thing against this couple!) Think about it. If the military was involved in this-- Eye witnesses report seeing Department of Homeland Security vehicles in the city HOURS BEFORE THE EXPLOSION.....They also report seeing military helicopters over that area BEFORE THE EXPLOSION. Military/DHS have major controls in place with internet information. ANYTHING can be generated now...including pictures of people doing things or being places which are TOTALLY photo-shopped. Remember Forest Gump? Do you think that TOM HANKS actually MET JOHN F. KENNEDY...or that he participated in the Wallace campaign of 1969? Both those scenes with him at the Selma School crowd LOOK AND SOUND EXACTLY like the nightly news and Fox reports!Common... ALL of what they are presenting....with the exception of the gas meter (which can ALSO BE RIGGED!) is circumstantial and will NOT get a conviction against Shirley or her boyfriend. Please stop slandering these people before you really know the FACTS about what happened that night. It's just adding to the "feeding frenzy" to find a PATSY for the fires! Cheers! SK |
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SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27352205 United States 11/21/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the feedback. I recall the scripture "Judge not lest you be judged." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27999563 I stand for truth and want the truth to be exposed in this situation. Me, too, Lisa. I am fairly well worked-up over this event because I am just putting myself in the shoes of those folks who may actually be innocent here. Isn't that what we are supposed to do if we are Christians? I'm NOT judging the Shirley couple, nor am I judging you for your interesting thoughts about what might be going on. I'm just saying: Wouldn't it really suck if these people were just taking a weekend break at the Casino-- just as they claimed they were doing....and then this meteor fragment hits their neighborhood. They come home from a nice weekend...and now they are the center of a criminal investigation --You understand, this is after all murder/manslaughter if they can actually make the circumstantial evidence stick. The reason I mention the "green flare" that was filmed flying at a distance behind the fire, is because meteor fragments burn GREEN in the lower atmosphere as they are burning up. If they don't burn up....what is left hits something! It was a TOTALLY LUCKY CAPTURE that these people making the video recording of the FIRE actually filmed a remnant of the meteor shower that was falling over Indianapolis that night--if that turns out to be what actually happened. Now that there is a HUGE COVER-UP going on, we will probably NEVER know...not until someone comes forward if they find a fragment on the ground. They really should be going over that whole area with metal detectors. By the way, the psychological trauma on the other 32 home owners involved in this is going to be way way WORSE if it turns into a man-made disaster, than if it were an "act of God." Keep digging, LIsa....it's an interesting topic! Cheers! SK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1637231 United States 11/21/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live-in boyfriend, Mark Leonard, still maintained a dating profile on POF (Plenty of Fish) where he has profile pictures of himself on a Harley Davidson. Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563 I also read somewhere else that Monserat Shirley rode motorcycles, too. As a former Harley owner, I know owners take extra precaution with their motorcycles. If this explosion was a pre-meditated act, then Mark may have removed his Harley to another location, or hid it in a self-storage unit ( with other items they may have wanted to protect from explosion). I say if Harley parts are not found in the explosion rubble, then you definately have located your criminal(s). This is awesome that you are thinking like this. Please try and reach out to the detectives investigating this case. You are a natural-born sleuth, high five at ya. Hey Lisa from Indiana! Interesting logic. Only problem being, that when folks are what you call "Live-in-Boyrfriends" they ususally DON'T TRUST THE NEW LOVER with something as valuable as a Harley! He's probably got his own residence--maybe the "trailer park" where they arrested some "persons of interest" in the investigation. I've been running a thread since the night the explosion happened on GLP. Thread: UHOH..."Big-Wig" Resignations....a 12-3-12 "CODE" in Deep Impact & CALIF Quake? (Page 6) My immediately "hinky"--SINCE COINCIDENTALLY I HAD STARTED MY FIRST THREAD EVER ON GLP ABOUT THE "DEEP IMPACT!" was that this was a METEOR FRAGMENT that came down (or had been SHOT DOWN BY MILITARY) in several pieces on this neighborhood. This "hit" wasn't big enough to cause a CRATER ....but one of the posters on my thread said the "kenetic energy" (from velocity of mass) would be large enough to cause a blast. Also, Lisa, I had a UTUBE video from one of the neighbors that night that actually captured ON THE TAPE a green meteor flying in the background even as the firefighters were fighting the fires! IT was odd to see this thing just fly over like nobody even notices it...it's bright enough that the people filming said: "What's that GREEN THING?" (The UTUBE video was mysteriously taken down the next day....which I find pretty suspicious....like it's being covered-up!) I'm just keeping an open mind on this, even with FOX NEWS wanting to point fingers and blaim people who may have just been ordinary people caught in an "Act of God"--a meteor hit. It's all just very "fishy" to me--and I don't think that just letting several people become "collateral damage" so that the investigation can be closed is fair. Just sayin..... Cheers! SK :coffeANDroses: I do agree that some things do not add up. FYI I did see the video ( that is now removed) which showed the "green flare". I am not sure how this fits into the current theory of a remote or pre-planned denotation of gas. FYI I was divorced for several years and was "conned" by a ruthless person on a particular dating website. I am not saying the Monserat is guilty of this act, but it is quite suspicious that the cached dating site feedback said that Mark Leonard scammed vulnerable women out of money, and that he and his friend, Mark Gill were previous partners in crime. She also stated that Mark could be responsible for another gas explosion were insurance money was paid in the past. That video is still on the Get The Truth Out's FB page! |
LisaDiane (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/27/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI I just heard about the Harleys! Evidently, they had two expensive Harleys stored away from the house. Money was tight, and Monserat was close to filing bankruptcy, why do you spend hundreds on a weekend at Casino and boarding your cat, and spend probably $80 per month on a self storage unit to house your Harleys when there is room for them in your garage. And why two expensive Harleys anyway when money was tight.... most Harleys cost at least $15,000 if they are newer, depending on the make, and year. LisaDiane |
scorpio66 User ID: 2453057 United States 11/27/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI I just heard about the Harleys! Quoting: LisaDiane Evidently, they had two expensive Harleys stored away from the house. Money was tight, and Monserat was close to filing bankruptcy, why do you spend hundreds on a weekend at Casino and boarding your cat, and spend probably $80 per month on a self storage unit to house your Harleys when there is room for them in your garage. And why two expensive Harleys anyway when money was tight.... most Harleys cost at least $15,000 if they are newer, depending on the make, and year. I also saw that they found the *hood of her Cadillac and they are cruising around in some kind of SUV now. Really living beyond their means by a long shot. I think this guy really did a number on her but who knows, maybe she's the mastermind. Regarding the bankruptcy, from what I've seen she (and I think her ex but not for sure on that part) were in a Chapter 13 that got dismissed this spring for non-payment. I think there's a waiting period to re-file but maybe she met that condition. Anyway, they really couldn't have provided a better trail that leads right back to them no matter what direction you go if they tried. I mean really. How could they possibly appear any guiltier? Pretty sure the investigators are letting them sweat awhile at this point. --- *could this still unexplained mystery photo with the bat symbol be the hood of her caddy? [link to widgets.wishtv.com] |
LisaDiane (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/28/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI I just heard about the Harleys! Quoting: LisaDiane Evidently, they had two expensive Harleys stored away from the house. Money was tight, and Monserat was close to filing bankruptcy, why do you spend hundreds on a weekend at Casino and boarding your cat, and spend probably $80 per month on a self storage unit to house your Harleys when there is room for them in your garage. And why two expensive Harleys anyway when money was tight.... most Harleys cost at least $15,000 if they are newer, depending on the make, and year. I also saw that they found the *hood of her Cadillac and they are cruising around in some kind of SUV now. Really living beyond their means by a long shot. I think this guy really did a number on her but who knows, maybe she's the mastermind. Regarding the bankruptcy, from what I've seen she (and I think her ex but not for sure on that part) were in a Chapter 13 that got dismissed this spring for non-payment. I think there's a waiting period to re-file but maybe she met that condition. Anyway, they really couldn't have provided a better trail that leads right back to them no matter what direction you go if they tried. I mean really. How could they possibly appear any guiltier? Pretty sure the investigators are letting them sweat awhile at this point. --- *could this still unexplained mystery photo with the bat symbol be the hood of her caddy? [link to widgets.wishtv.com] As for the mystery photo... your guess is as good as mine. LisaDiane |
LisaDiane (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 11/29/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the latest from Fox 59: RE: Homes destroyed, residents evacuated in Indianapolis explosion Explosion homeowner released on unrelated battery charge The south side homeowner whose house exploded earlier this month was released on her own recognizance Tuesday following a court appearance on an unrelated battery charge. By Fox59 4:55 p.m. EST, November 28, 2012 The south side homeowner whose house exploded earlier this month was released on her own recognizance Tuesday following a court appearance on an unrelated battery charge. Moncy Shirley, owner of the home at 8349 Fieldfare Way, surrendered to the court with her attorney Randall Cable to face charges from a 2011 misdemeanor arrest for battery. The case stems from a fight between Shirley, her ex-husband John and his girlfriend. In the probable cause affidavit obtained by Fox59 News, John Shirley and Mary Croucher told police that Moncy Shirley assaulted them at John's northside apartment during an argument. An arrest warrant from the case went unserved since February 2011. Last week Shirley's attorney, Randall Cable, whom she shares with boyfriend Mark Leonard, contacted the court to advise it of the outstanding warrant. Court records indicate Shirley and her attorney appeared Tuesday afternoon before the judge. Shirley was released on her own recognizance and issued a non-contact order with her ex-husband. Shirley faces a January court date. Shirley and Leonard have spoken with fire, police and insurance investigators several times since the Nov. 10 explosion, which killed two people and caused $4.4 million in damage. While several search warrants have been served and two associates of Leonard questioned, no arrests have been made as investigators have not officially confirmed the cause of the blast. LisaDiane |
LisaDiane (OP) User ID: 27999563 United States 12/03/2012 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It just dawned on me.... that there were other suspicious items removed from the house. I relistened to new stories, and in particular I noted that at a mobile home park, golf clubs were removed from a mobile home trailer. This trailer was owned by Mark Leonard's brother, Bob Leonard. Well, the two Harley Davidsons were removed from the garage and stored elsewhere and expensive golf clubs were found in his brother's trailer. Sounds like insurance fraud to me. LisaDiane |