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Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl, Confiscate Winnie The Pooh Laptop

 
Philligan
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An anti-piracy company has found itself in the middle of a huge controversy. CIAPC, the company that had The Pirate Bay blocked by ISPs in Finland, tracked an alleged file-sharer and demanded a cash settlement. However, the Internet account holder refused to pay which escalated things to an unprecedented level. In response, this week police raided the home of the 9-year-old suspect and confiscated her Winnie the Pooh laptop.

[link to torrentfreak.com]
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Philligan  (OP)
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11/22/2012 09:18 AM

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In his own blog at facebook the guy tells that "His daughter wanted to try out the new songs at this artists (Chisu, a local celebrity) new record before she'd spend her saved money for the record.

He had to go to work so he left her daughter at the computer showing a few search engines and telling her what to search to get samples of the music (didn't specify exactly what where and how). Later his daughter told him that 'she found something but they didn't work', so they went and bought the record anyways.

After that, the lawyers and the cops showed up." It's a big rumour in here that the torrent she'd found was planted by the rightful distributors of Chisu's music and the files were just random data, and they'd follow who downloaded it and persecuted (this is a rumour and not confirmed, however father claims that he has some proof of this).
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11/22/2012 09:19 AM
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Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl, Confiscate Winnie The Pooh Laptop
winnie the pooh laptops are a favorite tool of terrorists, illuminati thugs, freemasons, and bilderbergers. a major world crisis was probably averted by this timely seizure. praise those heroic minions of law enforcement that risked life and limb for world security by nipping this threat in the bud!!
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11/22/2012 09:22 AM
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Good... Evil little girl...I hope next time they shot her dog too..
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11/22/2012 09:28 AM
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Good... Evil little girl...I hope next time they shot her dog too..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28238942


And taze her to death!

Taze the witch! Taze her! TAZE HER!!!! snarl
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11/22/2012 09:41 AM
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Are you not entitled to a trial first, before the Nazi Stormtroopers come to your door in Finland?
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11/22/2012 09:44 AM
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That's an interesting thought. Is intent to do something illegal enough to be counted as a crime there?

If you think about hitting your neighbor (for being a jerk, let us say) but don't do it, would that be enough to be arrested for assault?

With mind reading capability coming down the pipe in the next few decades, it isn't a trivial or silly topic.

If this girl didn't actually get real files, then what copyright did she infringe?

Even if we disregard the idea that she's f-ing nine.

Because she knows better?
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11/22/2012 09:48 AM
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Are you not entitled to a trial first, before the Nazi Stormtroopers come to your door in Finland?
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No.
Its the same as the UK
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11/22/2012 09:50 AM
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An anti-piracy company has found itself in the middle of a huge controversy. CIAPC, the company that had The Pirate Bay blocked by ISPs in Finland, tracked an alleged file-sharer and demanded a cash settlement. However, the Internet account holder refused to pay which escalated things to an unprecedented level. In response, this week police raided the home of the 9-year-old suspect and confiscated her Winnie the Pooh laptop.

[link to torrentfreak.com]
 Quoting: Philligan


They should all be locked up for abuse of power and the girl should receive all of their pay checks.
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11/22/2012 09:57 AM
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Are you not entitled to a trial first, before the Nazi Stormtroopers come to your door in Finland?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18913868

No.
Its the same as the UK
 Quoting: omar


you are sentenced to us coming into your house...

Where do you guys learn law?
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11/22/2012 10:00 AM
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F pigs. they are the scum of the earth. filthy disgusting fing pigs. the are the most scum filled humans that ever wal;ked the earth. nasty dounut eating fat ass mini tyrants
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11/22/2012 10:00 AM
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Good... Evil little girl...I hope next time they shot her dog too..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28238942


And taze her to death!

Taze the witch! Taze her! TAZE HER!!!! snarl
 Quoting: Music Monopoly Inc. 20943498


At last someone else who get's it...

She was trying to listen to music, but no wait it get's worse.... She was trying to listen to music for free!

Artists don't want people to listen to their music or see their works, don't you people get that...

Artists & perfomers are private people and they want to be left alone and they don't want their message to be heard!

What is wrong with all you people....
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11/22/2012 10:02 AM
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This is what happens when the world has more lawyers than plumbers. They're like hyenas.
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11/22/2012 10:07 AM
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This is what happens when the world has more lawyers than plumbers. They're like hyenas.
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


I'd rather deal with hyenas , they have more character

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11/22/2012 10:12 AM
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On the flip side the father could have prevented the situation in the first place by helping her more. Giving her a laptop and telling her to google it is like giving a child a circular saw, turning it on and telling her to go have fun with it.
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11/22/2012 10:15 AM
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On the flip side the father could have prevented the situation in the first place by helping her more. Giving her a laptop and telling her to google it is like giving a child a circular saw, turning it on and telling her to go have fun with it.
 Quoting: Quagmire


How does that justify the gestapo tactics?
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11/22/2012 10:17 AM
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Good... Evil little girl...I hope next time they shot her dog too..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28238942


And taze her to death!

Taze the witch! Taze her! TAZE HER!!!! snarl
 Quoting: Music Monopoly Inc. 20943498


Then shoot at her unarmed sister.
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11/22/2012 10:23 AM
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How can one ask for money for something they can't prove i would buy (And i TOTALLY WOUDN'T) if i didn't get it for free? They can't, therefore there is no crime (Because no damages can ever be proven). Of course, that's only according to logic and sanity.
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11/22/2012 10:33 AM
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Fuckin pathetic. And the excuse is that these multimillion dollar companies are suffering losses. FUCK THEM
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11/22/2012 10:35 AM
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Fuckin pathetic. And the excuse is that these multimillion dollar companies are suffering losses. FUCK THEM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834799


Which they can't prove, it's like asuming anyone who bought a $15000 car would also buy it if it costed $50000
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11/22/2012 10:36 AM
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Peer Block...problem solved.
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11/22/2012 10:37 AM
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Shit at its smellyest
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11/22/2012 10:38 AM
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Peer Block...problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28269867


Hmm, last version is 2 years old...I doubt the blacklists are very up to date either.
Philligan  (OP)
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11/22/2012 10:40 AM

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I dont think she thought she was doing wrong when she downloaded it, as her father said she wanted to listen to some of the new album before buying it, and if they did in fact purchase it the next day. which should be easy to check, then his story is beyond reproach.

Now it is up to the organisation that seized her laptop without a court case to explain themselves to the court, or are the police allowed to come into any home and just seize stuff without a court order? And if there was a court order why was the accused not made aware of it so they could put there side of the story forward.
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11/22/2012 10:57 AM
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Peer Block does update - check your settings.
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11/22/2012 01:53 PM

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An anti-piracy company has found itself in the middle of a huge controversy. CIAPC, the company that had The Pirate Bay blocked by ISPs in Finland, tracked an alleged file-sharer and demanded a cash settlement. However, the Internet account holder refused to pay which escalated things to an unprecedented level. In response, this week police raided the home of the 9-year-old suspect and confiscated her Winnie the Pooh laptop.

[link to torrentfreak.com]
 Quoting: Philligan


Why is a 9 year old allowed to download and do whatever she wants on the internet?

Parenting failsmile
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11/23/2012 04:58 AM
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In his own blog at facebook the guy tells that "His daughter wanted to try out the new songs at this artists (Chisu, a local celebrity) new record before she'd spend her saved money for the record.
....snip...

 Quoting: Philligan


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11/23/2012 05:05 AM
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In his own blog at facebook the guy tells that "His daughter wanted to try out the new songs at this artists (Chisu, a local celebrity) new record before she'd spend her saved money for the record.
....snip...

 Quoting: Philligan



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25605487


For fuck sake, Chisu and her record label should be paying that little girl in gold bars for having to endure the torture of listening to that shit music.

Idol1
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In his own blog at facebook the guy tells that "His daughter wanted to try out the new songs at this artists (Chisu, a local celebrity) new record before she'd spend her saved money for the record.
....snip...

 Quoting: Philligan



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25605487


For fuck sake, Chisu and her record label should be paying that little girl in gold bars for having to endure the torture of listening to that shit music.

Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27552087


chuckle
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11/23/2012 06:08 AM
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are the police allowed to come into any home and just seize stuff without a court order? And if there was a court order why was the accused not made aware of it so they could put there side of the story forward.
 Quoting: Philligan


no court order or probable cause is needed here - a tip from anonymous informer is enough. Gestapo is alive and well.

And the people are fucking sheep who say, well honest people have nothing to fear if the cops come to visit.





GLP