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God Loves ALL User ID: 27800314 United States 11/23/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/23/2012 12:18 PM The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23103473 United States 11/23/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The superior person, who values simplicity, can hide within society during a period of decaying culture. Because their needs are very simple, superior people are not easily snared by the changing customs, habits, and view of the society. Understanding the Tao, practicing virtue, superior people are like a well from which other people, seeking to learn and practice virtue, can come to drink. But even if superior people remain within a decaying society, they will not despair when no one comes to use them. Superior people have a concerned mind for all people and remain among them, but are untarnished by the ignorance around them. Superior people only seek to continue learning, becoming ready for the proper time when they are called upon again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28340599 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28358292 Japan 11/23/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you and everyone else who enjoyed this. I am studying Confucian and Neo-Connfucian commentaries on the I Ching and other ancient texts now. It is very rewarding. I reccomend it. However there is so much information sometimes I feel my head is going to explode... |
Sunyata User ID: 18505236 United States 11/23/2012 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | H-36, Ming I (Hexagram 36 out of 64, situations of changes) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28340599 Darkening of the Light The light has sunk into the Earth: The image of Ming I Thus does the superior man live with the great mass He covers his outside, and has the principle inside. The superior person, who values simplicity, can hide within society during a period of decaying culture. Because their needs are very simple, superior people are not easily snared by the changing customs, habits, and view of the society. Understanding the Tao, practicing virtue, superior people are like a well from which other people, seeking to learn and practice virtue, can come to drink. But even if superior people remain within a decaying society, they will not despair when no one comes to use them. Superior people have a concerned mind for all people and remain among them, but are untarnished by the ignorance around them. Superior people only seek to continue learning, becoming ready for the proper time when they are called upon again. [link to ethicsandspirituality.blogspot.jp] Finger pointing at the moon |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1427499 Iceland 11/23/2012 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | psychopathy according to current psychology, is invariably described and thought of in the negative adaptation to heightened being, the same 'symptoms' as will get many locked up can, with a small bit of self-mastery, becom invaluable tools of aid for the self and those around them - not every knofe is made for killing... just be realistic about your concepts of 'superiority', and keep mindful of 'one is all, all is one' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22070412 United States 11/23/2012 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Psychopath is detached from society, outside, with an aggressive stance. The Confucian superior man (ren) is the opposite. Fully engaged, moral, humble, acting for others inside the society, non-aggressive, non-egoful, etc. I wonder if you are aware that a term like "superior man" sounds arrogant, hubristic and conceited? Did I mention bigoted? As well, although I generally like your description, it is Godless and seems like a distraction from awareness of God and the spiritual nature of our true beings... if you were the supreme Creator you might not appreciate a spirit energy mired in this kind of philosophy... "Nietsche is dead." --God Sort of like "uber mensch" ... "Nietzsche introduces the concept of the Übermensch in contrast to the other-worldliness of Christianity: Zarathustra proclaims the Übermensch to be the meaning of the earth and admonishes his audience to ignore those who promise other-worldly hopes in order to draw them away from the earth.[5][6] The turn away from the earth is prompted, he says, by a dissatisfaction with life, a dissatisfaction that causes one to create another world in which those who made one unhappy in this life are tormented. The Übermensch is not driven into other worlds away from this one. Zarathustra declares that the Christian escape from this world also required the invention of an eternal soul which would be separate from the body and survive the body's death. Part of other-worldliness, then, was the abnegation and mortification of the body, or asceticism. Zarathustra further links the Übermensch to the body and to interpreting the soul as simply an aspect of the body. As the drama of Thus Spoke Zarathustra progresses, the turn to metaphysics in philosophy and Platonism in general come to light as manifestations of other-worldliness, as well. Truth and essence are inventions by means of which men escape from this world. The Übermensch is also free from these failings." :) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22070412 United States 11/23/2012 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Psychopath is detached from society, outside, with an aggressive stance. The Confucian superior man (ren) is the opposite. Fully engaged, moral, humble, acting for others inside the society, non-aggressive, non-egoful, etc. Also, while it is true if you could actually attain the description of a "superior man" you might be a spirit energy that harmonizes naturally with God... the truth is very few of us, even when we wish to be non-egoic, can be so... this seems inherent in a term like "superior man" perhaps the true term should be something more like: "most humble servant?" :) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22070412 United States 11/23/2012 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ basically shows us that we are inherently flawed in this life, but can be redeemed by seeing forgiveness and humility and love for God and each other... love for God would imply a respect for nature, but not a worship of it... :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28375474 United States 11/23/2012 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The superior person can hide within society during a period of decaying culture." not the exclusive province of i-ching-a-dingaling. every philosophy or religion that recommends a withdrawl from society says as much. stoicism, cynicism, early christianity and the later aescetic christians, cults, several others |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19206112 Australia 11/23/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It resonates with me not as judgement of others or oneself, but a call to striving towards the path of expanding your own being into oneness, because it is (subjectively of course) the only truly self-evident absolute. |
firmament User ID: 14463438 Germany 11/24/2012 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The superior person can hide within society during a period of decaying culture." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375474 not the exclusive province of i-ching-a-dingaling. every philosophy or religion that recommends a withdrawl from society says as much. stoicism, cynicism, early christianity and the later aescetic christians, cults, several others ....why did you take one sentence out of context?; are you trying to proof that you did not read the whole piece? How else could you come to this conclusion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 11/24/2012 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The superior person can hide within society during a period of decaying culture." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375474 not the exclusive province of i-ching-a-dingaling. every philosophy or religion that recommends a withdrawl from society says as much. stoicism, cynicism, early christianity and the later aescetic christians, cults, several others This. As a Christian, this reminded me of Jesus saying "The meek shall inherit the earth." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1368303 United States 12/03/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The superior person can hide within society during a period of decaying culture." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375474 not the exclusive province of i-ching-a-dingaling. every philosophy or religion that recommends a withdrawl from society says as much. stoicism, cynicism, early christianity and the later aescetic christians, cults, several others ....why did you take one sentence out of context?; are you trying to proof that you did not read the whole piece? How else could you come to this conclusion? This! The superior person "hides within" society, not hides from society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24329932 United States 12/03/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | H-36, Ming I (Hexagram 36 out of 64, situations of changes) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28340599 Darkening of the Light The light has sunk into the Earth: The image of Ming I Thus does the superior man live with the great mass He covers his outside, and has the principle inside. The superior person, who values simplicity, can hide within society during a period of decaying culture. Because their needs are very simple, superior people are not easily snared by the changing customs, habits, and view of the society. Understanding the Tao, practicing virtue, superior people are like a well from which other people, seeking to learn and practice virtue, can come to drink. But even if superior people remain within a decaying society, they will not despair when no one comes to use them. Superior people have a concerned mind for all people and remain among them, but are untarnished by the ignorance around them. Superior people only seek to continue learning, becoming ready for the proper time when they are called upon again. [link to ethicsandspirituality.blogspot.jp] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29000281 United Kingdom 12/03/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you and everyone else who enjoyed this. I am studying Confucian and Neo-Connfucian commentaries on the I Ching and other ancient texts now. It is very rewarding. I reccomend it. However there is so much information sometimes I feel my head is going to explode... I love Taoism. It's so mysterious and ungraspable. "Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know." |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/03/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | H-36, Ming I (Hexagram 36 out of 64, situations of changes) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28340599 Darkening of the Light The light has sunk into the Earth: The image of Ming I Thus does the superior man live with the great mass He covers his outside, and has the principle inside. The superior person, who values simplicity, can hide within society during a period of decaying culture. Because their needs are very simple, superior people are not easily snared by the changing customs, habits, and view of the society. Understanding the Tao, practicing virtue, superior people are like a well from which other people, seeking to learn and practice virtue, can come to drink. But even if superior people remain within a decaying society, they will not despair when no one comes to use them. Superior people have a concerned mind for all people and remain among them, but are untarnished by the ignorance around them. Superior people only seek to continue learning, becoming ready for the proper time when they are called upon again. [link to ethicsandspirituality.blogspot.jp] Lovely. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
goodmockingbird User ID: 28977383 United States 12/03/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Superior" is perhaps a poor translation -- and it is a translation. Perhaps the word "enlightened", as another poster suggested, or "excellent", "wise", or "highly principled" would come closer to a meaning we would understand in modern English. I'd go with the word "wise". I Support Our First Responders |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29000281 United Kingdom 12/03/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Superior" is perhaps a poor translation -- and it is a translation. Perhaps the word "enlightened", as another poster suggested, or "excellent", "wise", or "highly principled" would come closer to a meaning we would understand in modern English. I'd go with the word "wise". Yes. "Superior" has a kinda ... Ashkenazi vibe to it! |