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UHOH...12-03-12 Planet alignment SAME 10,900 B.C. Egypt AND Velokovski's "Collision?"

 
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in the kabbalistic calendar, dec 3rd is the new year for the mystical tradition in which a new layer of knowledge is revealed hf
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so fucking what, most "joe public" won't give a fuck, as it'll be another un noticed event that people won't give a damn about. they'll be to busy with this christmas bollox
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Sweet, Farcry 3 comes out on the 3rd. I like how all game releases come out when an event takes place. Coincidence?
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No, planets are not going to do much to us. Its the CME's sprites and such that will mess us up good.
 Quoting: brent pops


Yes. There's a belief that a comet hit the Earth 10.900 bc.
look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


HOLY F---ING CRAP! Really?
Do you have a link, please? I have to
go to work now....no time to look it up!
That is very very unnerving if that's true!
Thanks for the find,though!
Cheers!
SK
Be back in a few hours!


METEORfalling
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"WELL....THERE IT IS!"
(Scene from Amadeus--the movie--King Joseph)
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theres also videos on you tube with same title as article.
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This is total nonsense. The Pyramids were built to replicate the stars of Orions belt, not the planets. The fact that they are lining up to planets may be an interesting coincidence, but it doesn't hold an ounce of significance. Stars and Planets are not the same thing! The Egyptians believed in Astrology, and the belief of souls feeding into the planet based on the sun as a pointer to the stars. If you believe in Astrology, December 3 'may' produce 'special souls', but those souls wont turn into 'great adults' for years! If planets lining up caused catastrophe, I would say scientists would have a good warning system by now! FYI, the Magi of the Bible were Magian, or rather Zoroastrians. They were of the first known religion to man, and started in what is now Iran. They studied the stars, and believed like the Egyptians that souls 'fed' into the planet based on constellations - which was how they knew at what time to search for the Messiah. Astrology is at the root of every Religion, and my belief is you should study it yourself. Don't just believe what you read on the internet, because this Planetary alignment on Giza is a total hoax!
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OP - Love the Post :) thank you!

Here is also something interesting when speaking about the Pyramids...

PYRAMIDS BEAMING ENERGY TO MYSTERIOUS SPACE CLOUD

[link to www.fourwinds10.net]

LOVE
&
peace

Thread: 21st of Dec. 2012 - Are you counting the days?
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” By Martin Luther King, Jr.

Because it's time to Wake Up!
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So did anything historically significant occur when the planets last lined up like this in 10,900 Bc?
 Quoting: Ossiel


According to this article it did:

"But, about 10,800 BC, the Younger Dryas period brought an abrupt and brutal cold turn, and the glaciers returned to Europe, and the forested areas shrank or disappeared. The YD lasted for some 1200 years, during which time people survived as best as they could. "

[link to archaeology.about.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379518


this movie outlines the 10,950 thesis:


 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Thank you Tarfonwxx...I've started to watch this
and what I've seen so far is just AMAZING...there
is a submerged ancient stone city, much like the
Mayan built off the coast of Japan. They are saying
in the film that it could be as old as 13,000 plus
years--which would take it back into the 10,900 B.C.
date line! Incredible! I'll watch more of it and
will post it on Page 1 when I am done.
Thanks again for this! Great find!
Cheers!~
SK



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So did anything historically significant occur when the planets last lined up like this in 10,900 Bc?
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According to this article it did:

"But, about 10,800 BC, the Younger Dryas period brought an abrupt and brutal cold turn, and the glaciers returned to Europe, and the forested areas shrank or disappeared. The YD lasted for some 1200 years, during which time people survived as best as they could. "

[link to archaeology.about.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379518


this movie outlines the 10,950 thesis:


 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Also....to answer the poster Ossie.....
Articles and videos posted so far to page 6,
here, indicate that there was indeed something
very significant--maybe several events--happening
around the 10,900 B.C. mark. The video
is pretty long, but if you watch it in chuncks
and take breaks, you can handle it! I'm only
30 minutes into it and I'm already just blown
away! WOW!!
Cheers!
SK

hf
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in the kabbalistic calendar, dec 3rd is the new year for the mystical tradition in which a new layer of knowledge is revealed hf
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Sweet! I'm sure the wonderful posts on this thread
are adding to that "layer" as we are watching!
Thank you tarfonwxx!
SK:
hf:
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This is total nonsense. The Pyramids were built to replicate the stars of Orions belt, not the planets. The fact that they are lining up to planets may be an interesting coincidence, but it doesn't hold an ounce of significance. Stars and Planets are not the same thing! The Egyptians believed in Astrology, and the belief of souls feeding into the planet based on the sun as a pointer to the stars. If you believe in Astrology, December 3 'may' produce 'special souls', but those souls wont turn into 'great adults' for years! If planets lining up caused catastrophe, I would say scientists would have a good warning system by now! FYI, the Magi of the Bible were Magian, or rather Zoroastrians. They were of the first known religion to man, and started in what is now Iran. They studied the stars, and believed like the Egyptians that souls 'fed' into the planet based on constellations - which was how they knew at what time to search for the Messiah. Astrology is at the root of every Religion, and my belief is you should study it yourself. Don't just believe what you read on the internet, because this Planetary alignment on Giza is a total hoax!
 Quoting: VeryMelanie 21112041


If you have read the beginning thread, or my
very carefully worded replies
so far....I haven't "predicted" ANYTHING...not diaster, VeryMelanie....
not catastrophy...not the end of the world. (By the way to
publish such a claim--even on GLP--is loosely construed
as "terrorism" by the DHS...and I wouldn't want to break the law!)
Don't get your panties in a bunch, dear heart! We
are just trying to put puzzle pieces together, here,
trying to add our little 2 cents worth to Danny Wilten's
excellent videos and others contributions about the
date 12-03-12!

Did you watch the videos...VeryMelanie or considered
any of my replies?
How do you know that I don't believe in Astrology?
(You are TOTALLY off on that one!!)
Do your homework and then come in and yell at me,
please....I'll listen!
Cheers!
SK


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[link to www.youtube.com]

Wilten's "Orion in the Vatican"
Shows a beautiful compilation of Wilten's
3-year research on The Orion Nebula,
fractals and Great Works of ART.

(Will try to embed this in next post!@
Having trouble with embedded videos lately!)
Cheers!
SK


ORIONspiralDNAma
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


this reminds me of a stargate/tesseract I seen open up over Orion on night

:Orion tess:

then had a dream about blue cubes coming towards earth in a spiral from Orion ( these were last year)
looked alot like this but was in space

:spiral dream:

then on thanksgiving this was my sunset
( notice the spiral in it also ?)
:serpsunset:

this is a depiction of the cosmic serpent

:cosserp:

signs abound at this time and are everywhere
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<

it's really not hard to notice in the clear night sky.
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so fucking what, most "joe public" won't give a fuck, as it'll be another un noticed event that people won't give a damn about. they'll be to busy with this christmas bollox
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Thank you, Anonymous for your post....you seem
to you the "f" word alot! If you need any more
ideas for the word "fuck" please enjoy the following
video!
[link to www.youtube.com]
Cheers!
SK


hf
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Sweet, Farcry 3 comes out on the 3rd. I like how all game releases come out when an event takes place. Coincidence?
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Interesting Marketing....what's the movie about?
Cheers!
SK


hf
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it's really not hard to notice in the clear night sky.
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Im always looking up lol ... wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid and still do .. one thing on my list to get is a nice big personal telescope
I see stuff like this alot and wish I had the proper camera equipment to photograph what I see in the night sky at times

:phoenix rising:

:woman sky:
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Couldn't be arsed wading through all that shit.

Could you please make it brief for us GLP doomers with a really short attention span......


Something along the lines of.....

Shit's gonna happen.........Check:
Type of shit that's gonna happen.....Check

Approximate date that shit's gonna happen.....Check



Muchas Gracias

Goofy Thum
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Couldn't be arsed wading through all that shit.

Could you please make it brief for us GLP doomers with a really short attention span......


Something along the lines of.....

Shit's gonna happen.........Check:
Type of shit that's gonna happen.....Check

Approximate date that shit's gonna happen.....Check



Muchas Gracias

Goofy Thum
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Me to please. Bad fibrofog.

hf
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So did anything historically significant occur when the planets last lined up like this in 10,900 Bc?
 Quoting: Ossiel


According to this article it did:

"But, about 10,800 BC, the Younger Dryas period brought an abrupt and brutal cold turn, and the glaciers returned to Europe, and the forested areas shrank or disappeared. The YD lasted for some 1200 years, during which time people survived as best as they could. "

[link to archaeology.about.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379518


this movie outlines the 10,950 thesis:


 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Thank you Tarfonwxx...I've started to watch this
and what I've seen so far is just AMAZING...there
is a submerged ancient stone city, much like the
Mayan built off the coast of Japan. They are saying
in the film that it could be as old as 13,000 plus
years--which would take it back into the 10,900 B.C.
date line! Incredible! I'll watch more of it and
will post it on Page 1 when I am done.
Thanks again for this! Great find!
Cheers!~
SK



ORIONspiralDNAma
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


yay-i felt the same after watching it, i had to look more and more into this date! it's amazing too, how it matches up with what we know about prehistory, something big happened then with the end of the ice age, before then is a big question mark and how it ended is also a big question mark. glad you weren't deterred by the length! now i have to read through the rest of this thread-amazing info!!!

do you happen to know about the claim that this alignment happens every 2,737 years? is that supposed to be going forward from now, whereas the last one was indeed in 10,900 BC? and people saying this is a hoax, do you happen to have info about the alignment really happening on 12/3?

thank you SO much for all the info.. can't wait hf

let the revealing unfold..
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The Pyramids of Giza vs the Mars craters of Tharsis
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

hf
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it's really not hard to notice in the clear night sky.
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Im always looking up lol ... wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid and still do .. one thing on my list to get is a nice big personal telescope
I see stuff like this alot and wish I had the proper camera equipment to photograph what I see in the night sky at times

:phoenix rising:

:woman sky:
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<

sorry flutter i was pointing to the Spiral dream.........that's visible in the sky on a clear night....

thanks for responding...
rainrosefaithtrue
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so fucking what, most "joe public" won't give a fuck, as it'll be another un noticed event that people won't give a damn about. they'll be to busy with this christmas bollox
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Thank you, Anonymous for your post....you seem
to you the "f" word alot! If you need any more
ideas for the word "fuck" please enjoy the following
video!
[link to www.youtube.com]
Cheers!
SK


hf
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hahahaha clappa
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sorry flutter i was pointing to the Spiral dream.........that's visible in the sky on a clear night....

thanks for responding...
 Quoting: Daniel of the Rose

Im sorry hon I misinterpreted the point you were making.
My night skies are not always clear here do to the city light vapor but Orion always seems to stand out when alot of other stars and constellations are not visible .
That dream about the cubes had great significance for me at the time they were neon blue in color and emanating energy will leave the rest out as it is personal.
Thank you for your kind response hf says alot about your inner character

Again Thank You hugs
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/conjecture at best.
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it's really not hard to notice in the clear night sky.
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Im always looking up lol ... wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid and still do .. one thing on my list to get is a nice big personal telescope
I see stuff like this alot and wish I had the proper camera equipment to photograph what I see in the night sky at times

:phoenix rising:

:woman sky:
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


I love how you think!

I've seen "signs" and odd shapes
in clouds before, sometimes I think that they
are just fun "novelties"--but other times, I
really do believe they are "signs."

Days before the tragic New York 9/11 TREASON
I was in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho near
the CD Lake. It's very clear there and the sky
is always so amazing. That morning I saw what
looked like a huge EAGLE flying east--it was
very obvious (though I was the only one looking
up as I stood on the boat dock....) and this
"apparition" was the only huge cloud in an other-
wise very clear autumn sky . I didn't know then
that elements in our own gov't (symbol--the EAGLE) conspired to attack the Twin Towers from the
East....You just can't get a more simple "message"
than that one! I also had an accompanying feeling
of terrible "doom" as I watched THAT cloud and
I even drew a picture of it in my journal so that
I'd remember.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!
SK


hf
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I love how you think!

I've seen "signs" and odd shapes
in clouds before, sometimes I think that they
are just fun "novelties"--but other times, I
really do believe they are "signs."

Days before the tragic New York 9/11 TREASON
I was in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho near
the CD Lake. It's very clear there and the sky
is always so amazing. That morning I saw what
looked like a huge EAGLE flying east
--it was
very obvious (though I was the only one looking
up as I stood on the boat dock....) and this
"apparition" was the only huge cloud in an other-
wise very clear autumn sky . I didn't know then
that elements in our own gov't (symbol--the EAGLE) conspired to attack the Twin Towers from the
East....You just can't get a more simple "message"
than that one! I also had an accompanying feeling
of terrible "doom" as I watched THAT cloud and
I even drew a picture of it in my journal so that
I'd remember.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!
SK


hf
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


the Inner Eye that speaks to us ;) hf
You should enjoy these also then
I call this one the Dragon
:sylphangels2:

This one is the Man riding the Eagle

:the dove:
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I love how you think!

I've seen "signs" and odd shapes
in clouds before, sometimes I think that they
are just fun "novelties"--but other times, I
really do believe they are "signs."

Days before the tragic New York 9/11 TREASON
I was in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho near
the CD Lake. It's very clear there and the sky
is always so amazing. That morning I saw what
looked like a huge EAGLE flying east
--it was
very obvious (though I was the only one looking
up as I stood on the boat dock....) and this
"apparition" was the only huge cloud in an other-
wise very clear autumn sky . I didn't know then
that elements in our own gov't (symbol--the EAGLE) conspired to attack the Twin Towers from the
East....You just can't get a more simple "message"
than that one! I also had an accompanying feeling
of terrible "doom" as I watched THAT cloud and
I even drew a picture of it in my journal so that
I'd remember.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!
SK


hf
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


the Inner Eye that speaks to us ;) hf
You should enjoy these also then
I call this one the Dragon
:sylphangels2:

This one is the Man riding the Eagle

:the dove:
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Beautiful!
I wish that I had a "smart phone." I
just bought a PENTAX 35mm camera w/zoom
lense for $5 at a yard sale--will start
to watch for these AMAZING signs in my
day! Thanks so much!
SK

Bringinthepets11
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O.K.
I'm going out on a REAL LIMB ON THIS ONE,
you guys! But...what else do I have on
my "to do" list? lol!
QUESTION:
Did Leonardo Davinci try to direct our attention
to the GENERAL AREA OF EGYPT in the painting
THE LAST SUPPER.....FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON?

....AND...IF SO...
DID HE HAVE SOME PRECOGNITION

about the COMING ALIGNMENT OVER EGYPT on
December 3, 2012 date and its connection to
THE ORION ALIGNMENT OF 10,900BC?
IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE PAINTING--that you can
pull out--THAT GIVES ANY CLUES ABOUT 12-03-12 THAT
WE CAN FIND ASAP?
(This is important, you
guys....anything at all you can bring to the
table to share will be appreciated!

I give you an OPEN INVITATION HERE ON GLP
to go over to the thread we have been
hosting on GLP (since 7/07/12) about Davinci's
THE LAST SUPPER CODE...and see if you can use
mirrors, reverse imaging, picture analysis--
Hell, get the Ouija Board out and use it...
....ANYTHING AT ALL that would give the
viewer a heads up about Egypt and the
12-03-12 date???
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Abhie posted this thread 7/07/12...and
has a couple of very good composite pictures
on Page 1 of the thread....which show BEYOND DOUBT
that Davinci intended
the "negative space" between Mary and Jesus
in the painting to be identified in the future
generations--from space (like "google earth")--
as the NILE DELTA of Egypt
& between Mary and
Jesus's arms....the Nile River area where Giza
is located!
....but I've yet to make the link between
THAT Davinci painting clue and the Danny Wilten's
December 2012 "discovery!"

PLEASE, LETS LOOK AT THIS TOGETHER AND SEE
WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH!!
LOOK!....LOOK JANE LOOK! LOOK!
Please post what you find for us to share!
Cheers!
SK


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i cant believe you all are falling for this. even the OP perhaps??

THIS ALIGNMENT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ~! WTF ???

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. PERIOD. THOSE PLANETS WILL NOT BE ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE POSITIONS NEXT WEEK.

ALSO THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED ON THIS SITE FFS
Thread: The REAL alignment of Dec. 3, over the Giza pyramids, is not the one between Mercury, Venus and Saturn.
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THIS IS EASILY VERIFIABLE INFORMATION.

HOW THE HELL ARE THERE 6 PAGES OF PEOPLE JUST AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVING THIS SHIT. IVE SKIMMED THE THREAD, NOT A SINGLE POST DISPUTING THE VALIDADY OF THESE WORDS.
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Re: UHOH...12-03-12 Planet alignment SAME 10,900 B.C. Egypt AND Velokovski's "Collision?"
THIS IS EASILY VERIFIABLE INFORMATION.

HOW THE HELL ARE THERE 6 PAGES OF PEOPLE JUST AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVING THIS SHIT. IVE SKIMMED THE THREAD, NOT A SINGLE POST DISPUTING THE VALIDADY OF THESE WORDS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7706397


Take it easy, Anonymous Coward....you
are going to STROKE-OUT over this!@
Just because they are coming in and looking
at the material does NOT automatically mean
that they are agreeing....
We are just tossing ideas around, we are NOT
making any predictions of doom or whatever
is upsetting you so much! The alignment
is a FACT...it isn't something I've made
up. Please watch Danny Wilten's video about
what he has put together for us--then you
will better have a basis for disagreeing!
Just chill out!
Cheers!
SK


hf





GLP