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The Rise of a New World Order: China, Russia, BRICS

 
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The Rise of a New World Order: China, Russia, BRICS
I know theres a couple of threads regarding this topic right now.

I feel this long ass article really deserves its own thread.

Great information being relayed, and quite an amazing read.


From the article:

"Accordingly, yes, China and Russia do not want to see armed conflicts anywhere, because conflicts ‘feed’ the US Empire. They keep it going, keep it justified, and give it opportunities. Take Syria for example. Calm in Syria would not benefit the US, NATO, the Zionists, or US-led globalism. Calm allows the Syrian state to strengthen itself on the basis of its own resources – with or without reforms, depending on the domestic political situation. Syria could speak to the globalist hegemonists from the position of at least being in control of Syrian space – and, indeed, with the friendship of Russia and China, too. That is bad news for the West. But the West can benefit from Islamist insurgency, guerrilla warfare, and political unrest in the country. All those allow the US to meddle in the country – to ‘protect the victims’ to ‘support democracy’ and what not else."

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"In this situation, where China and Russia are increasingly seizing the high ground economically, while the US continues to dominate the world militarily, how is the US trying to stop its slide into the abyss? (Because obviously, the US cannot sustain global military dominance for a long time without a sound economy.) How is the US responding to the economic, and therefore political, rise of China and the BRICS? It is responding militarily, as you might predict, – by stirring up color revolutions, ‘Arab springs’, Islamist insurgencies in Central Asia, China, and Russia, by expanding NATO to include even Mongolia and Vietnam as ‘partners’ or ‘candidate partners’ of one sort or another. The US is responding by stirring up political turmoil that it hopes to turn into military intervention for itself and its allies. This is not necessarily to control the world, but to destabilize any power not accepting US hegemony and US-led globalism.

In this context, no, the Russians and Chinese are NOT going to arm resistance movements against the US imperialists. If they did, they would immediately be drawn into a conflict that would weaken their own strongpoint (their economies) in order to confront the US in precisely the one area where the US still has an overwhelming preponderance (the military). That would, in effect, be falling into the American trap. It’s elementary strategic thinking: you simply do NOT fight the enemy at his strongest point. Opting for a direct military confrontation with the US could bankrupt China and Russia economically, leading to the downfall of their states. But continuing to foster their own economic growth, while increasing their own defensive potential gradually and unobtrusively, starting with their own geographic regions, will drain the US of its resources and eventually force Washington to disband its massive military complex."
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"Western-style free markets are especially experiencing a systemic collapse and these economic models are not delivering as they once did. The free market system outwardly, at least, seems like it is failing the majority of the people in what is increasingly their growing hour of need. These and a myriad of other such issues have all caused global economic, financial, political, and social tsunamis and the magnitude and impact of these events and crisis has left relatively few national arenas unaffected—be it security in old age, long-term youth joblessness, or energy shortages. This has exposed the combustive fissure of income disparity and has lit a match that has instigated class wars on the wealthy and a sudden proliferation of technocratic unelected governments in the West."

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China Wants Its Own New World Order To Oppose The US Version:

""Fighting terrorism needs to address both its symptoms and root caused" he said. "... An important prerequisite in this connection is to resolve the question of development and narrow the gap between the (global) North and the South."

He concluded his speech by making clear China did not believe the current world order could produce lasting peace and prosperity, and that it was ready to establish far-reaching ties with other nations to create a "fair and equitable new world order" that would.

"China is ready to strengthen its coordination and cooperation with all other countries in the conduct of international affairs, security included, and work vigorously toward a world that enjoys lasting peace and universal prosperity with a fair and equitable new international order," he said."


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Will BRICS Expand Into BRICSIT?

"One expert on emerging markets believes this will happen, with the BRICS nations – Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa – extending invitations to Indonesia and Turkey to join the club, as it expands its footprint into new regions.

“I was in Moscow recently and there was talk of the BRICS expanding to the BRICSIT, with the new members being Indonesia and Turkey,” Martyn Davies, the chief executive officer of Johannesburg-based emerging markets consultancy Frontier Advisory, a leading research, strategy and capital advisory firm that specialises in emerging markets, told IPS.

“There are sound geo-political and geo-economic reasons for this.”

He outlined why Turkey and Indonesia would be best placed to be at the front of the queue of potential new members, by explaining that an Indonesian addition to the BRICS alliance would extend the club’s reach to Southeast Asia, while Turkey would also add geographical diversification."


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Hmm, I guess silence really is golden ;)
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I think this squad of world leaders do have the right idea in not partaking in violent or threatening measures to take down the current global power structure. With all the mess the US, NATO, and IMF stir up in this world, it's quite easy to see how their bullying will be their demise in regards to fulfilling their agendas ultimate goal for total globalization.

Their weapons they've used so harshly against "the people of earth" are now beginning to bite them in the ass. This is the age of information, make no mistake that this is what they fear most. They even proposed on us another "end of the world" type of timeline to keep us away from seeing the truth. It ain't gonna happen, you can throw that historical lie in the trash and piss on it.

As events continue to heat up in the Middle East not only with the violence and deception (which is essentially being used against TPTB) shown heavily on western media, the social networking groups are exposing something very different than fabricated propaganda. For example, the social networking groups and Independent Journalist are exactly what Jesse Ventura likes to call "boots on the ground" for our up to date news and information.


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CAPE TOWN, Nov. 20, 2012 (Xinhua) --

"The South African government on Tuesday pledged its commitment to the BRICS goal of growth, sustainable development and prosperity.

"BRICS is a platform for dialogue and cooperation amongst countries that represent 43 percent of the world's population," said Minister of International Relations and Cooperation, Maite Nkoana-Mshabane.

"The platform strives to promote peace, security and development in a world that is multi-polar, inter-dependent, increasingly complex and globalizing."


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Why would Russia align itself with non-white nations ?
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Let's kick the discussion into a gear ffs!

This alternative New World Order leveraged by the BRICS nation is gaining momentum (possible Indonesia and Turkey to step in with them) and may very well be playing a particular role in why the fear based NWO hasn't been able to further themselves with their agenda!

I mean lets look at it through some of the smoke. TPTB have been trying their damnedest to get WW3 started for years now. Help me expand on this GLP, where's your intellect at with this movement?

I'll take a running engine in neutral, cuz this son of a bitch is in park with the engine off, lol.
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I Love this thread.
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I Love this thread.
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When I first read through the article in the OP, I couldn't get enough of this subject. There's quite a bit out there and most is from highly respected business news sources. I guess the guy who coined "BRICS" was a former Goldman Sachs executive. Not sure if that raises a red flag, or if the man actually has a heart and wanted to do something more positive for the world.

I need your help untangling this GLP!

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