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Neoanderthal Woman User ID: 13275147 United States 11/29/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611 Don't say we didn't warn you. How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat? Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19. Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are. If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter. Last Edited by Neoanderthal Woman on 11/29/2012 11:54 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14873148 United States 11/29/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mmm its time for a spinach wrap with hummus, shelled hemp hearts, cucumber, tomato, raw garlic, carrot, and some Marie Sharp's habanero hot sauce. No meat for me today. Once or twice a week, grass fed/free range, no hormone or antibiotic, chicken, eggs, stew beef/ground beef. I try but, I can only adjust so quickly. Quinoa is an amazing substitute for the proteins and amino acids that meats do beneficially give our bodies, currently. |
Shamar User ID: 24946868 United States 11/29/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611 Don't say we didn't warn you. How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat? Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19. Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are. If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter. dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!! Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Old MacDonald User ID: 28707337 Canada 11/29/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Weekend Menu Friday Night: Rack of Ribs French Fries Sat Morning: Steak & Eggs Homefries Sat Lunch: Turkey Subway Foot Long Sat Dinner: More Steak with Baked Potato & Broccoli w/cheese Sunday Morning: Pancakes Bacon Breakfast sausage Homefries Sunday Lunch: Sausage Rolls Mozza Stix Sunday Dinner: Roast Beef Roast Potatoes Carrots Yorkshire Pudding EAT UP!!!! In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act - George Orwell Rachel Maddow is HOT!!! - Seriously I'd hit it. A VOTE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015, WOULD BE THE MOST COWARDLY & IRRESPONSIBLE THING A CANADIAN CITIZEN COULD DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. GUN GRABBERS ARE THE COMMON ENEMY OF ALL PEOPLE. GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS. THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY. CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED. C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS. I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE. |
Sneetch User ID: 14967850 United States 11/29/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was in high school I learned that deer hunting actually helps bring balance to the overpopulation in my area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23005221 The hunters kill/eat the deer, otherwise the deer breed and breed, they run out in front of cars, they get disease and ticks, which spread. They start eating from gardens, so then the non-meat eaters suffer too, right? But the hunter kills a deer and takes one out of the equation to feed his family and is called a savage, or caveman, etc by the people who do not eat meat. Not everything is black and white. I do not like how animals are treated in some slaughter houses. I do my research on how an animal is treated before being processed. If the company (Tyson, for example) is known for being unethical, I do not buy their meat. I do, however, support local butchers. I support local hunters and encourage my husband to bring some meat home for us. That is my opinion on this subject. Thanks for actually seeing it a little more rationally than "hunters murder deer for their satanic desires". If a year of hunting was skipped I can guarantee an increase in deer accidents and overpopulation would start, especially where I live. We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves? |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/29/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685337 He ate fish, you stupid cocksucker, as well as lamb. Is that not meat? At the last supper he wasnt passing round the lamb chops was he? he was passing round bread and wine He was a bum, after buying wine they can afford anything else... who said He bought it? Sorry, after he stole it...of course he is magic, so maybe that's how he did it... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Neoanderthal Woman User ID: 13275147 United States 11/29/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611 Don't say we didn't warn you. How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat? Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19. Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are. If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter. dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!! I don't mean to take verses out of context. I am not an expert of the Bible. I am sorry if it offends you and/or others. Even without quoting the bible, I still stand by it is not what you eat that define you. You can be the most spiritually advanced being or person but if your heart is not in the right place, I am of the opinion that no amount of veggies eating is going to ascend you. Understanding can only come if we stop trying to change someone into a copy of us. Respect other people's choice in life and they will (hopefully) respect yours. |
Shamar User ID: 24946868 United States 11/29/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611 Don't say we didn't warn you. How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat? Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19. Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are. If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter. dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!! I don't mean to take verses out of context. I am not an expert of the Bible. I am sorry if it offends you and/or others. Even without quoting the bible, I still stand by it is not what you eat that define you. You can be the most spiritually advanced being or person but if your heart is not in the right place, I am of the opinion that no amount of veggies eating is going to ascend you. Understanding can only come if we stop trying to change someone into a copy of us. Respect other people's choice in life and they will (hopefully) respect yours. I'm not trying to "ascend" or whatever.....I am just trying to follow our Creator's loving instructions. And HE is the one that says not to eat anything that has its life in its blood. I also disagree with you that what we eat does not define us. We are what we eat..... What we eat, becomes a part of us...it is assimilated into our body. And the soul of the creature? I have to agree with others' posts, that particularly commercialized meat, that contains very negative energy, which also is being absorbed into the body.... Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13275147 United States 11/29/2012 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE. DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE. i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree. |
Shamar User ID: 24946868 United States 11/29/2012 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator's loving instructions were specific. Quoting: Neoanderthal Man eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE. DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE. i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree. They won't know or understand unless someone explains to them....but they must be seekers of truth before they'll be able to hear or understand. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go your vegetarian nonsense out of here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19755366 Have fun dying of an iron deficiency. You are more likely to die from cholesterol and be obese from eating meat. But, in truth, I'm not really concerned about this physical body anyway. There is something much more important... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28392925 Spain 11/29/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator's loving instructions were specific. Quoting: Neoanderthal Man eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE. DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE. i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree. A fruit is alive..a dead animal is dead meat |
1908247 (OP) User ID: 13908485 Brazil 11/29/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator's loving instructions were specific. Quoting: Neoanderthal Man eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE. DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE. i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree. I know you are not referring to me, or at least not only to me, but you are referring to a common behaviour that is adopted by a person that changes his/her ways. No change can come, no change can be effective unless its an internal change, so bashing on people because of their habits is.. well, useless. The point of this thread is to establish a healthy discussion as to all of this. I don't eat meat and I don't think others should, but I'm well aware that my opinion won't change their habits. This thread is to bring information to the table that many are not aware of. Like the cruelty of our system with the animals, explanations of bodily functions and whatever else.. Actually i'm liking to stay a bit away from the discussions, I like where the thread is going so far, I'd just hope both sides can respect each other's choices! -A request for understanding. Nus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28392925 Spain 11/29/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: wildhoney At the last supper he wasnt passing round the lamb chops was he? he was passing round bread and wine He was a bum, after buying wine they can afford anything else... who said He bought it? Sorry, after he stole it...of course he is magic, so maybe that's how he did it... Or maybe he turned water into wine? wouldnt you if you could? what better wine could you offer? especially if it is to be in remembrance of you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace Let me be more specific and open here. Yes, all animals have souls! I have to laugh having to even say this, because it is so obvious to me. It should be obvious to you also... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 11/29/2012 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat. Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual and vital to the sustenance of the eco-system? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat. Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual? I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that. We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts. The choice is yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13275147 United States 11/29/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator's loving instructions were specific. Quoting: Neoanderthal Man eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE. DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE. i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree. I know you are not referring to me, or at least not only to me, but you are referring to a common behaviour that is adopted by a person that changes his/her ways. No change can come, no change can be effective unless its an internal change, so bashing on people because of their habits is.. well, useless. The point of this thread is to establish a healthy discussion as to all of this. I don't eat meat and I don't think others should, but I'm well aware that my opinion won't change their habits. This thread is to bring information to the table that many are not aware of. Like the cruelty of our system with the animals, explanations of bodily functions and whatever else.. Actually i'm liking to stay a bit away from the discussions, I like where the thread is going so far, I'd just hope both sides can respect each other's choices! -A request for understanding. there should be no sides. nor, homogenization. but, as your original post stated - understanding. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 11/29/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat. Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual? I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that. We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts. The choice is yours. So I guess the moral is that it's okay to consume some sentient, spirit-filled 'beings' but not others? Some sort of spiritual pecking order, right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422 I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view. I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved. Peace Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat. Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual? I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that. We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts. The choice is yours. So I guess the moral is that it's okay to consume some sentient, spirit-filled 'beings' but not others? Some sort of spiritual pecking order, right? Yes. Are you baiting me here? Decide for yourself. |
1908247 (OP) User ID: 13908485 Brazil 11/29/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its obvious that plants are sentient beings. But the it's something totally different than from animals. I don't think they feel pain or suffer when we eat them. The level of consciousness is different.. it's also different from a fish to a cow for example.. Nus |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 11/29/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its obvious that plants are sentient beings. But the it's something totally different than from animals. Quoting: 1908247 I don't think they feel pain or suffer when we eat them. The level of consciousness is different.. it's also different from a fish to a cow for example.. Cows, Pigs, Chickens. I don't discriminate. I eat them all. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |