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“Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead

 
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“Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Licorice lol

Good stuff here:

"The music, even in the standard verse-chorus stretches, often had a limber, wobbly feel to it that struck many listeners as slovenly but others as sinuous and alive, open to possibility and surprise. It came across as music being made, rather than executed. “These guys have evolved a thing where each guy is playing a running line all the time,” David Crosby once said.

“That’s electronic Dixieland.” The music critic Brent Wood has ascribed the sound of it to “the band’s emphasis on true polyphony, a texture heard only rarely in contemporary popular music.

Seldom do rhythm guitar, keyboard or drum parts vary at the same time as the bass and lead guitar. . . . Still more infrequently are all six parts being improvised.”

So you could attribute an aversion to the Dead to a failure of polyphonic appreciation. Or you could chalk it up to taste.
“Our audience is like people who like licorice,” Jerry Garcia said. “Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”

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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Bump for the night crowd.

Polyphony is a property of musical instruments, meaning they can play multiple notes simultaneously.
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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Great piece of writing, very fair on the good and bad sides of the Dead, thank you for posting that.

The Grateful Dead are really fucking obscure and for serious music obsessives only in Europe, we just didn't have that whole Deadhead culture here as they hardly ever came here. Still kicking myself for not seeing them in 1990 when I had the chance - Tony Blair made it, the dickputin

Listening right now to 'He's Gone' from Dicks Picks One.
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Bump for the night crowd.

Polyphony is a property of musical instruments, meaning they can play multiple notes simultaneously.
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Well, they did have 2 drummers and the rhythm guitarist was good enough to play lead.

I think they're good, but peaked with American Beauty.


Most of the 'Deadheads' I know were trippers, just not my gig. Garcia was damn good though, smooth, clean with his own style. Not a shredder by any means, but he could make that guitar sing pretty sweet...
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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
One of the most interesting parts of that article points out that more music is in circulation of the Grateful Dead than any other musicians in the history of the planet, and their archivist suggest there will be another 50 years at least of archive releases. I got an Ed Sanders oo-ee-oo reading that!

Up to the 'Other One' jam on DP1 by now.
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Hey WN......hope that you are doing well. Have a nice week.


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Hey WN......hope that you are doing well. Have a nice week.

penguin

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Hey David, I bumped this thinking you might see it. ;-`)
Hope all is good with you.
Finals time around here, mixed emotions as I hate failing folks.


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marked for later

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My Sirius/XM never leaves the Grateful Dead channel ch.57 I think

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Jerry Garcia was Jesus Christ in the flesh if you didn't know. You can find GoD through him as you could before.



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My Sirius/XM never leaves the Grateful Dead channel ch.57 I think
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And how are you not on my Buddy list? lol
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Wow, wow, wow!
What a great version, the recording is so punchy and wide!
And they are ALL ON!

Thanks for finding it David!

woohoo

I actually got up and danced for a bit, I couldn't help myself. ;-`)
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My pleasure WN. Stay warm.


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My pleasure WN. Stay warm.

David
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Plenty warm up here, was in the teens, up to 65 by Friday.
Pretty odd for around here.

Is this the same show? Sounds great as well, both the recording and the boys, top notch!
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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Jerry Garcia was Jesus Christ in the flesh if you didn't know. You can find GoD through him as you could before.
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In all seriousness: read the great article posted by OP and open your mind a little more, lost sailor.
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I was there at the end...Watched them all walk away from buckeye lake.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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I was there at the end...Watched them all walk away from buckeye lake.
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verysad

I was at Soldier Field '95.
For all the complaints I heard that night, all I could think was here is a man who didn't call in sick, when he probably should have.
Best to focus on the beauty and transcendence rather than the demise. ;-`)

Buckeye Lake, is that the place just East of Columbus?
Legend Valley now.
Saw DSO there for three nights this past Summer, and Phil and Bobby there a month earlier. ;-`)
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I was there at the end...Watched them all walk away from buckeye lake.
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verysad

I was at Soldier Field '95.
For all the complaints I heard that night, all I could think was here is a man who didn't call in sick, when he probably should have.
Best to focus on the beauty and transcendence rather than the demise. ;-`)

Buckeye Lake, is that the place just East of Columbus?
Legend Valley now.
Saw DSO there for three nights this past Summer, and Phil and Bobby there a month earlier. ;-`)
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It was always a good time.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Damn, maybe we ought to be posting the tunes in the order of the Barton Hall set list. ;-`)


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From Youtube comments:
One of THE greatest shows the Dead ever played. Legendary Cornell 5/8/77. I was lucky enough a couple years back to score a pristine copy of this show in it's entirety. The "thing that happens at the end of Morning Dew might just blow your fucking mind. Yeah, it's that amazing, and to this day I'm still not sure exactly where that sound comes from. ?????

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Damn, maybe we ought to be posting the tunes in the order of the Barton Hall set list. ;-`)


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From Youtube comments:
One of THE greatest shows the Dead ever played. Legendary Cornell 5/8/77. I was lucky enough a couple years back to score a pristine copy of this show in it's entirety. The "thing that happens at the end of Morning Dew might just blow your fucking mind. Yeah, it's that amazing, and to this day I'm still not sure exactly where that sound comes from. ?????

xxxdwbxxx 2 weeks ago
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I have a crappy, beat-up, worn-out cassette tape of that show. One of the best in my opinion.
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
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In all seriousness: read the great article posted by OP and open your mind a little more, lost sailor.
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do not presume to educate me child



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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Pretty hard for me not to find time to listen to at least a couple tracks from Workingman's Dead everytime I go past it in my FLAC album collection on the machine here.

Bought the album Summer of 71. Never found any other of their albums as compelling, but my brother had Old & In The Way with J. Garcia in 73/74 when rock sucked so bad all there was was Blue Grass or Country. 'Bout wore Old & In The Way out.

Tremendous play order in Workingman's Dead. Every song stands on its own. Timeless. Black Peter, High Time, Cumberland Blues, New Speedway Boogie...
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Re: “Who are the Grateful Dead, and why do they keep following me?” -Long "New Yorker" article about the Grateful Dead
Hay bro

You are RIGHT aint nothing like the GRATEFUL DEAD !




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Thanks guys!!!
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Cal expo late 80s. Jerry high as a kite on coca playing friend of the devil at 140beats per minute





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