Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22070412 United States 11/29/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I think you are on the right track... you just might want to research the luciferian deception and the testimonies of people who have been part of it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412 I compiled a little list with some descriptors, here: Thread: John Lear is wrong about Christ (much as I like him) :) ask yourself why there is a deception, who is involved and why... the way it appears to me is we get two basic choices: service and love for others and God or service and love for self and lucifer--this latter one comes in many flavors and appearances, but feels the same, by degrees and includes "alien abductions" and "ascended masters"... :) AND THIS ^^^ |
Messenger User ID: 17472287 New Zealand 11/29/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Again. He did not write this. So let me understand this, OP ?!?! If your father tells you to tell your little sister to clean her room , she wont because your father never said so ????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 11/29/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Again. He did not write this. So let me understand this, OP ?!?! If your father tells you to tell your little sister to clean her room , she wont because your father never said so ????? I think op has daddy issues |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it does. It is through lies, deceit and ignorance that we are kept in eternal prison. The only way out of this prison is when we understand who and what we really are. Only YOU can end your imprisonment. Not with some made up deity or fake god. |
Anonymous 1342725 User ID: 1342725 United States 11/29/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety. Quoting: Anonymous 1342725 Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless you're a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP. Respond or get the fuck out of here OP. You're not even setting a cohesive argument that we're all spiritual beings. Which is true. You waste time by comparing humans to demigods like Jesus. I answered your question earlier. I am the Son of God! And so are you and every other human on this planet. We are just as capable of becoming as an advanced being as Jesus was if we follow his example. We can become another Jesus in time. Again, he was just a man. A wise man, but a man. Okay. Bye. You can't claim Jesus exists yet say you're like him unless you've got shit seriously twisted. Tell me how walking on water and curing disease through touch go for you. Anonymous 1342725 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 11/29/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Again. He did not write this. So let me understand this, OP ?!?! If your father tells you to tell your little sister to clean her room , she wont because your father never said so ????? I think op has daddy issues [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Again. He did not write this. So let me understand this, OP ?!?! If your father tells you to tell your little sister to clean her room , she wont because your father never said so ????? Maybe your father wanted YOU to clean her room! But you tell her that she is supposed to do it. Maybe you can't really be trusted to tell the truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me understand this, OP ?!?! If your father tells you to tell your little sister to clean her room , she wont because your father never said so ????? I think op has daddy issues [link to www.youtube.com] Once a slave, always a slave... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24292028 Bahamas 11/29/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear friends, we are already God's children(Sons and Daughters), but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is. 1 John 3:2 Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Only God is truly good. Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '? Although he was a son(This verse refers to Jesus), he learned obedience through what he suffered. It is quite clear through Jesus himself said that he wasn't God. He is probably God's agent. But Jesus=God is unscriptural and a false doctrine. In fact most Christian doctrine is not based on the Bible. PS Hell is the mistranslated of Sheol(the Grave) Hades (the Underworld and Gehenna( Which was a garbage dump southwest of Jerusalem) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear friends, we are already God's children(Sons and Daughters), but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is. 1 John 3:2 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292028 Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Only God is truly good. Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '? Although he was a son(This verse refers to Jesus), he learned obedience through what he suffered. It is quite clear through Jesus himself said that he wasn't God. He is probably God's agent. But Jesus=God is unscriptural and a false doctrine. In fact most Christian doctrine is not based on the Bible. PS Hell is the mistranslated of Sheol(the Grave) Hades (the Underworld and Gehenna( Which was a garbage dump southwest of Jerusalem) Please, please, please. The book you are quoting from was written 325 years after Jesus died. By men that had their own understanding about what his message meant. Imagine that nothing had been written about George Washington. Now you decide to write about what George Washing did and said! How accurate would that be? How many times had stories been retold and reinterpreted. Think!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24292028 Bahamas 11/29/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear friends, we are already God's children(Sons and Daughters), but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is. 1 John 3:2 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292028 Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Only God is truly good. Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '? Although he was a son(This verse refers to Jesus), he learned obedience through what he suffered. It is quite clear through Jesus himself said that he wasn't God. He is probably God's agent. But Jesus=God is unscriptural and a false doctrine. In fact most Christian doctrine is not based on the Bible. PS Hell is the mistranslated of Sheol(the Grave) Hades (the Underworld and Gehenna( Which was a garbage dump southwest of Jerusalem) Please, please, please. The book you are quoting from was written 325 years after Jesus died. By men that had their own understanding about what his message meant. Imagine that nothing had been written about George Washington. Now you decide to write about what George Washing did and said! How accurate would that be? How many times had stories been retold and reinterpreted. Think!!!! I was supporting your thesis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 945308 New Zealand 11/29/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe people still believe this shit. The bible doesn't even back it up. Look ... Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel (Jacob) is my son, even my firstborn: 1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods? Psalms 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Luke 3:38 (descent line of Jesus) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. So who's the son of God? You, me, everyone and especially David, Solomon, Jacob, Adam and Jesus. . |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear friends, we are already God's children(Sons and Daughters), but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is. 1 John 3:2 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292028 Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Only God is truly good. Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '? Although he was a son(This verse refers to Jesus), he learned obedience through what he suffered. It is quite clear through Jesus himself said that he wasn't God. He is probably God's agent. But Jesus=God is unscriptural and a false doctrine. In fact most Christian doctrine is not based on the Bible. PS Hell is the mistranslated of Sheol(the Grave) Hades (the Underworld and Gehenna( Which was a garbage dump southwest of Jerusalem) Please, please, please. The book you are quoting from was written 325 years after Jesus died. By men that had their own understanding about what his message meant. Imagine that nothing had been written about George Washington. Now you decide to write about what George Washing did and said! How accurate would that be? How many times had stories been retold and reinterpreted. Think!!!! I was supporting your thesis I understand my friend, but you are trying to do it with scripture. I am not attacking your point, but your source. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe people still believe this shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 The bible doesn't even back it up. Look ... Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel (Jacob) is my son, even my firstborn: 1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods? Psalms 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Luke 3:38 (descent line of Jesus) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. So who's the son of God? You, me, everyone and especially David, Solomon, Jacob, Adam and Jesus. . Please stop quoting from a book of fiction... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 11/29/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it does. It is through lies, deceit and ignorance that we are kept in eternal prison. The only way out of this prison is when we understand who and what we really are. Only YOU can end your imprisonment. Not with some made up deity or fake god. Indeed, except that it's not eternal. It may take quite a while with the folks I mentioned earlier, but the eyes *will* eventually open :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety. Quoting: Anonymous 1342725 Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless you're a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP. Respond or get the fuck out of here OP. You're not even setting a cohesive argument that we're all spiritual beings. Which is true. You waste time by comparing humans to demigods like Jesus. I answered your question earlier. I am the Son of God! And so are you and every other human on this planet. We are just as capable of becoming as an advanced being as Jesus was if we follow his example. We can become another Jesus in time. Again, he was just a man. A wise man, but a man. Okay. Bye. You can't claim Jesus exists yet say you're like him unless you've got shit seriously twisted. Tell me how walking on water and curing disease through touch go for you. See, you don't even really know whether he even did these things. Maybe some superstitious, crazy monk just made this shit up! Who knows. You certainly don't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24292028 Bahamas 11/29/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear friends, we are already God's children(Sons and Daughters), but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is. 1 John 3:2 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292028 Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Only God is truly good. Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '? Although he was a son(This verse refers to Jesus), he learned obedience through what he suffered. It is quite clear through Jesus himself said that he wasn't God. He is probably God's agent. But Jesus=God is unscriptural and a false doctrine. In fact most Christian doctrine is not based on the Bible. PS Hell is the mistranslated of Sheol(the Grave) Hades (the Underworld and Gehenna( Which was a garbage dump southwest of Jerusalem) Please, please, please. The book you are quoting from was written 325 years after Jesus died. By men that had their own understanding about what his message meant. Imagine that nothing had been written about George Washington. Now you decide to write about what George Washing did and said! How accurate would that be? How many times had stories been retold and reinterpreted. Think!!!! I was supporting your thesis I understand my friend, but you are trying to do it with scripture. I am not attacking your point, but your source. Ok, I have studied the historicity of Jesus and what I have found (and I have reasonable evidence to suggest) the Jesus character in the Bible is a product of Rome. But the Romanized Jesus character in the Bible is actually based on two historical figures who are respectively Serapis and Yeshua ben Pandira. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it does. It is through lies, deceit and ignorance that we are kept in eternal prison. The only way out of this prison is when we understand who and what we really are. Only YOU can end your imprisonment. Not with some made up deity or fake god. Indeed, except that it's not eternal. It may take quite a while with the folks I mentioned earlier, but the eyes *will* eventually open :) How many lifetimes are you willing to wait... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 11/29/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it does. It is through lies, deceit and ignorance that we are kept in eternal prison. The only way out of this prison is when we understand who and what we really are. Only YOU can end your imprisonment. Not with some made up deity or fake god. Indeed, except that it's not eternal. It may take quite a while with the folks I mentioned earlier, but the eyes *will* eventually open :) How many lifetimes are you willing to wait... God is more patient than we give Him credit for ;) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I have studied the historicity of Jesus and what I have found (and I have reasonable evidence to suggest) the Jesus character in the Bible is a product of Rome. But the Romanized Jesus character in the Bible is actually based on two historical figures who are respectively Serapis and Yeshua ben Pandira. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292028 Now, that I can believe! Now we have some common ground and I agree with you. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422 Of course it does. It is through lies, deceit and ignorance that we are kept in eternal prison. The only way out of this prison is when we understand who and what we really are. Only YOU can end your imprisonment. Not with some made up deity or fake god. Indeed, except that it's not eternal. It may take quite a while with the folks I mentioned earlier, but the eyes *will* eventually open :) How many lifetimes are you willing to wait... God is more patient than we give Him credit for ;) God may be, but I'm not. Time to set people free with the truth! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4545733 United States 11/29/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP's got it right. I'd like to add that NEVER EVEN ONE TIME did anyone address Jesus using his hame. Not once. Nada. The only place this name appears is in the narrative. It says that 'they' addressed him as Rabbi, Master, Good Teacher, etc. Check it out for yourself. It's the narrative that says, "Jesus said"....."then Jesus"......"while Jesus", etc. The bible has been used to take over the heart and mind of man, using guilt and threats of hellfire. It's impossible to truly love anyone who demands it. |
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Sword of mercy User ID: 10523005 United Kingdom 11/29/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be truthful, Jesus never wrote down ANYTHING... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422 The bible was written about 300 years after he died! He wrote in the sand. Secondly the bible is a collection of manuscripts which were already written. You are well out with your dates which makes your thread invalid. Last Edited by Sword of mercy on 11/29/2012 07:11 PM "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22577422 United States 11/29/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can anyone believe a book written by church leaders that were getting incredibly rich and powerful would say that Jesus was just a man like any other? No, he HAD to be made a God so the only way for you to speak to him was through the church. These people were about lies, control and power. And you are still buying it! Come on dammit. Think for yourselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 11/29/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can anyone believe a book written by church leaders that were getting incredibly rich and powerful would say that Jesus was just a man like any other? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422 No, he HAD to be made a God so the only way for you to speak to him was through the church. These people were about lies, control and power. And you are still buying it! Come on dammit. Think for yourselves. When the Spirit of truth enters a man, there is no more doubting neighbor. God Bless. peace, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24292028 Bahamas 11/29/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would also be interesting to note: The entire story of "jesus" is a deliberate perversion of the story of Ausar, Auset and Heru (Osiris, Isis, and Horus) Let me begin with the proper etymology of the name jesus/hesus/yeshua. Many of us know the letter 'j' entered the english alphabet in the 1600s. The latin and so-called hebrew way of pronouncing the name is what's relevant here, to wit "hesus/yeshua". Of course, those who speak spanish say "hesus". The greeks and later romans took one of the forms of the God Heru from ancient Kamit and corrupted His name into 'hesus'. The form of the hawk-headed Deity Heru that they corrupted was that of "Khensu". "Khensu" is often written "Khons" or "Khonsu". This is as misleading as writing the name of God, 'Amen' as 'Ammon' or 'Amon'. This was done by the white egyptologists and others in order to conceal the fact that 'Amen/Amin' in christianity/hebrewism/islam comes from the God Amen (Amen Ra). The same goes for writing "Khensu" as "Khonsu". The 'kh' metut/hieroglyphic symbol in the name is often interchangeable in the language of Kamit with the metut/symbol for 'sh'. In the Twi (Akan) language we have the same sound and it is written "hy". In both languages (Kamit & AKan), the meaning is the same. The 'kh' in Khensu, is pronounced similarly. 'Khensu' thus becomes 'Shensu', 'Tchensu', 'Jensu', 'Yeshu', 'Hesu-s' in greek. The 'n' in the name is nasal, as it is in Twi. "Khensu" is a hawk-headed Divinity, and as a form of Heru, He is the son of Auset and Ausar. Does His name indicate this? Yes. "Kh" or "Khi" in the language of Kamit means "child". "Nsu" (nesu) means "Divine, royal, King, King of Southern Kamit". 'Nsu' is the title of the King (Per aa, Pharoah). It is the first part of 'Nesubat' (nsubat), meaning "king of the south and north". Kh-nsu, Khi-nsu, thus means "Divine royal child". 'Heru' or 'Khensu Heru' is the Divine royal child born of Auset and Ausar. He was born to become King. So the 'Jesus story is based on even older stories/myths' |