The Fiscal Cliff is how Obama ends the United States

I would love to find out why Daniel selected 12/19/12 as the date for this "fictional" timeline.. Anyone else wondering that?? This video was made years ago....

Dollar index dropping...

Scarey! But for some reason, I hope everything crashes.

I kinda there too. Do not want to suffer the associated pain, but I think it is the only thing that will really wake people up en masse.

Nope. Repubs have the power to avert it, if they took their mouths off of the cocks of the rich, but they won't, cuz they're good bitches. When you lose seats in every chamber in an election, it means the country isn't behind you. Polling has shown a big majority of American's in favor of taxing the rich...it's not even close. But it seems like that rich dick is just too good to let go of! hahahahaha!

Presumably excluding the rich, tax them to harshly and they'll move on.

Watch the new Red Dawn to see what happens next

Obama is the driver -- he's the one taking America off the cliff. NEVER EVER FORGET THIS.

DEMOCRATS drove America off the cliff. Remember that next election...

Of course you would laugh about the country's unfortunate problem of being forced to tax the people that properly allocate capital (investments) instead of people who waste their capital (cigarettes, alcohol, football).

Because everyone that is taking money from the government is just spending it right away, government stimulus will never fix the economy.

People spending money on cigarettes does not stimulate the economy. Only good investment does.

Instead of realizing that we need to cut down welfare programs temporarily while we fix our budget, people go straight to seizure of wealth.

If you start seizing people's wealth, they will no longer start international businesses in the USA. They will have the USA portion of the business based in the USA, but the international portions will no longer be based in the USA because there is a huge disadvantage to this.

If the taxes for either corporations or the rich do go up, it is not that the economy gets destroyed or that the rich stop starting businesses. This is the simplified reasoning given to the populus.

The real reason is that the USA will no longer be the hub for international corporations. When they start they will plan to start their international operations separate from the US company.

Revenues come up to 60% from outside the USA. This translate to a 60% fall in US equity markets since the international components will no longer be listed in the USA. Without being part of the US company, the USA is missing a TON of tax money.

Therefore, raising corporate and taxes on the rich will solve the problem temporarily. In the long-run everyone will be poorer.

exactly but not for awhile......

$600 billion cut from military budget jan 1st
he wants to reduce nuclear arsenal to 292
he must and will confiscate firearms from citizens

then we will be invaded. It's all part of a plan.........

That statement is so erroneous, I don't even know where to start. To begin with, GWB took us to the fiscal cliff. Even most conservative pundits agree with this. It was his tax and fiscal policies that set this up to happen.

Also, Obama can't force congress to act. He also doesn't have to give in to every tantrum and whim they may have. They're adults, and can gauge what they do and do not want to negotiate. The key word here is NEGOTIATE. When you LOSE as bad as the Repugs did, your bargaining position is weaker. The nation isn't with you. Polling shows huge margins of Americans favor taxing the rich at a higher rate. This includes republican voters.

Currently, Obama is touring the country, taking up precious media time to frame this thing as a Repug hostage taking, and it's working--presumably because it's the truth. We will see in the next election, just as we did with this one.

This country has changed, and some don't want to see it.

Center-Left from now on! The "traditional voter" is taking his last gasps!

Even though the numbers show over and over again that there isn't enough "rich" in the country to fix the real problem.

Do the majority want to tax the rich for justice or for retribution?

I don't know, but those surveys show even a significant number of republican voters in favor of such taxation.

good luck trying to tell this to the dumbed down right. all they think they know is that obama is brown and isn't american or chirstian and anything he does is destroying america. facts be damned

how about because they've been coddled too long while the middle class picks up the slack. the rich can afford higher taxes, they just don't want to.

Obama has personally run up more debt than all the previous 43 Presidents combined.

Quit with the 'blaming Bush' stupid shit.

Obama is a COMMUNIST and is DANGEROUS says Congress. He's a national security threat says Congress.

Am I the only one that isn't concerned about the fiscal cliff. If my taxes go up to Clinton-era levels, I swear it isn't gonna break me. In fact i probably won't really notice it. I'm doing just fine, and my financial house is in order.

Obama’s “job” before getting elected to public office was to teach ACORN workers and other “community organizers” how to game the system, overwhelm it with demands, and bring it crashing down using Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. The man is an economic terrorist.

got any other faux news talking points for us?

Well, since the people allowed it, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Apathy and comfort created all this, therefore, if you're scared that the U.S. is going to be ruined...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Otherwise...TOO BAD, SO SAD.

Seriously...learn the meaning of communist. You've been listening to too many uneducated Republicans and are parroting terminology that you have no concept of the meaning.

If you're getting your "education" of communism around GLP from other wannabe conservatives, then its no wonder you think Obama is a communist. Obama is more like Totalitarian Fascist who is using corporatism for economic takeover.

For the record - Communism is when the proletariat (the people) rise and take control of the government from the elites. -You might want to read that again and familiarize yourself with it.

Stop blaming me ffs.

That's just too much ejucashun for the typical GLP conservatard. You're giving them WAY too much credit here. It's kind of funny watching them yell into the echo chamber things like "communist" and "socialist," when they have no fucking clue what either of them mean. On top of that, they use the two words interchangeably, as if they were the same thing. It's really funny, actually. If you go spewing some of this shit onto hard-left forums, they will ban your ass for the simple lack of knowledge, and the insult to real communists, when you call Obama one of them.

FWIW, real communists were happier under GWB cuz they saw a real opportunity to eventually have a people revolution. Under Obama, most of the left became apathetic.

You do realize that Obama did not win big.

This country is pretty much split in two. Obama does not have any mandate.

obama did not win big. that said the majority of america is sick of the rich being catered to by our politicians. warren buffet and other extremely wealthy americans have gone on record saying the rich need to be taxed more.

Spare us the bull. Big U.S.businesses have moved their companies out of our country on large. They hire thousands of accountants to work the tax code so that they can pay the minimal amount, they hoard their money in off-shore accounts(have a friend that is actually in the business of advising and opening off-shore accounts for the rich), they happily have moved business out of our country because the U.S. gives monetary incentives to businesses for taking their business out of the country! You get that? We actually pay companies to take their business elsewhere!Spare us the speal about other countries not wanting to come here! If we kept our own business here, we'd be just great! I surround myself with upper-middle class people...engineers, salemen, entreprenuers and they all see the squeezing of the middle class to benefit the rich and the stock holders. I am not talking about the poor, that group will be whatever we want them to be, the U.S. has brought this on, on purpose.

The people where never in charge in communism,it was used too take over much of Europe and steal everything for a few oiligarchs and silence all who spoke out against it.

communism killed over 60 million Europeans and it did a good job of killing over 100 million chinese,think you better go and read up on communism and how dangerous it is.

Agreed

If the people were NEVER IN CHARGE OF COMMUNISM, then it wasn't COMMUNISM.

Why is it SO incredibly hard to see that???

And trust me...I'm VERY EDUCATED ON ALL THE "ISMS." I think its YOU that need to "read up."