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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29212529 United States 12/06/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any data that shows that these materials definitively came from aircraft, and could not be from terrestrial sources? And please, a link to the peer reviewed paper that makes the connection with HAARP I can only guess that the Moon landing hoax and Mayans are in here somewhere too. |
Mordier L'eft (OP) User ID: 28308154 Canada 12/06/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any data that shows that these materials definitively came from aircraft, and could not be from terrestrial sources? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29212529 And please, a link to the peer reviewed paper that makes the connection with HAARP I can only guess that the Moon landing hoax and Mayans are in here somewhere too. i'd counter that by asking how you think these agents could have been released into our atmosphere WITHOUT an aircraft. catapult, perhaps? --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29212529 United States 12/06/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any data that shows that these materials definitively came from aircraft, and could not be from terrestrial sources? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29212529 And please, a link to the peer reviewed paper that makes the connection with HAARP I can only guess that the Moon landing hoax and Mayans are in here somewhere too. i'd counter that by asking how you think these agents could have been released into our atmosphere WITHOUT an aircraft. catapult, perhaps? Specifically what agents? So many have been mentioned. But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim. |
13th-Century User ID: 28715327 Canada 12/06/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any data that shows that these materials definitively came from aircraft, and could not be from terrestrial sources? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29212529 And please, a link to the peer reviewed paper that makes the connection with HAARP I can only guess that the Moon landing hoax and Mayans are in here somewhere too. Those of us who have been following the research for the past 15 years continuously really don't have patience with your kind anymore. So, kindly -- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29004976 United States 12/06/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim." ******************************************** As you perhaps already know.......the only way to do that would be to follow the plane to it's base.......and also have a large ground force to capture the base......and then examine everything on the base (records, chemicals, etc)......interogate staff.......and have a mainstream media source willing to announce the results to the people of the world. In the meantime.......it does not mean that we should just keep our head and eyes downward.......looking for loose change on the ground. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29212529 United States 12/06/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 ******************************************** As you perhaps already know.......the only way to do that would be to follow the plane to it's base.......and also have a large ground force to capture the base......and then examine everything on the base (records, chemicals, etc)......interogate staff.......and have a mainstream media source willing to announce the results to the people of the world. No, you go up to FL3xx and take some samples from within the trails. Land and have the samples analyzed. Relatively straightforward, but never even attempted to date. As you have indicated in multiple threads, there are chemtrails criss-crossing every city and berg around the world, so finding trails to sample should be pretty easy. Heck, just file IFR from City A to city B at FL350 to start, you can request altitude changes enroute to intercept trails of opportunity along the way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488600 United States 12/06/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A visit to Weather Modification Inc. in Fargo, ND in 2009 He interviews a pilot and the pilot explains to him what he does. Starts at 1:37 Very interesting who is paying for it all! [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29004976 United States 12/06/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 ******************************************** As you perhaps already know.......the only way to do that would be to follow the plane to it's base.......and also have a large ground force to capture the base......and then examine everything on the base (records, chemicals, etc)......interogate staff.......and have a mainstream media source willing to announce the results to the people of the world. No, you go up to FL3xx and take some samples from within the trails. Land and have the samples analyzed. Relatively straightforward, but never even attempted to date. As you have indicated in multiple threads, there are chemtrails criss-crossing every city and berg around the world, so finding trails to sample should be pretty easy. Heck, just file IFR from City A to city B at FL350 to start, you can request altitude changes enroute to intercept trails of opportunity along the way. Negative For one thing, you would not be able to prove who owns the plane and the chemicals. Next, good luck getting MSM to release your results. They are the ones who have spray patterns on the sky picture behind them during the eve news. |
Chemtrail Documents User ID: 221483 United States 12/06/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrail Documents A government biowarfare jet spraying program to cause the genocide of the general public. Many informative files for you to read. [link to www.scribd.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29212529 United States 12/06/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 ******************************************** As you perhaps already know.......the only way to do that would be to follow the plane to it's base.......and also have a large ground force to capture the base......and then examine everything on the base (records, chemicals, etc)......interogate staff.......and have a mainstream media source willing to announce the results to the people of the world. No, you go up to FL3xx and take some samples from within the trails. Land and have the samples analyzed. Relatively straightforward, but never even attempted to date. As you have indicated in multiple threads, there are chemtrails criss-crossing every city and berg around the world, so finding trails to sample should be pretty easy. Heck, just file IFR from City A to city B at FL350 to start, you can request altitude changes enroute to intercept trails of opportunity along the way. Negative For one thing, you would not be able to prove who owns the plane and the chemicals. Next, good luck getting MSM to release your results. They are the ones who have spray patterns on the sky picture behind them during the eve news. We're still trying to confirm that these chemicals exist in the trails. Meanwhile, you would be able to ID the aircraft via flight tracking programs (which noone seems interested in around here...quite handy for airplane watchers, though). As for the MSM, that's not of immediate concern...again, still trying to identify ACCURATELY and SPECIFICALLY what is in these trails. |
Mordier L'eft (OP) User ID: 28308154 Canada 12/06/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the article posted is not my own, BTW but when i'm at work, out in the country, i can watch them draw their lines across our sky for an entire day. i track the trails as they become clouds and dissipate over a period of 4-6 hours, and the only reason they do disappear is because they've finally passed over the horizon. i also see many CON-trails which spout and fade within minutes, like a real jet's con-trail does. i've been watching it happen for 10 years and it has increased in frequency every year until some days i get nervous at the fact that i've been working under these "clouds" all day. they don't even drift as normal clouds do, as they're obviously much heavier. Last Edited by Mordier L'eft on 12/06/2012 10:55 PM --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29212529 United States 12/06/2012 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "ID the aircraft via flight tracking programs." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 ********************************** Are you saying that the general public has access to track all military flights that are up there???? Military flights don't show up. The vast majority of the flights up there making trails are civil airliners, and they do show up on these programs. |
pray_Italy User ID: 29249282 Italy 12/06/2012 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^ tried this at times ^^ here in Italy, Venice the planes leaving anomalous trails (I prefer calling them this way) DO NOT show up on the tracking sites :( We have a US Base nearby in Aviano, but I really doubt that all or even most of these planes come out from there. Normally they are dedicated to one specific area of the sky but are flying from/to different directions TO/FROM the area they are leaving the trails. I continue to wonder HOW the sprays are actually activated, as at least where I live they only appear in a dedicated area of the sky and NOT all planes are leaving trails (maybe due to their altitude I get it) or leave a different kind of trail, i. e. smaller/larger/fluffier (maybe due to different engines) Who actually CONTROLS the planes/pilots giving them orders where to fly and when to "push the button" to eject whatever they leave behind. |
OhlongJohnson User ID: 22690246 United States 12/06/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how are the elites not effected by this as we are? This world is fading away along with everything it craves, but if you do the will of god you will live forever. 1 John 2:17 For everything comes from god alone.Everything lives by his power, and everything is for his glory. Romans 11:36 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29004976 United States 12/06/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "ID the aircraft via flight tracking programs." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 ********************************** Are you saying that the general public has access to track all military flights that are up there???? Military flights don't show up. The vast majority of the flights up there making trails are civil airliners, and they do show up on these programs. 1. Vast majority?.......no offense, but do you have a link to back up your statement. 2. Assuming that you do not get shot down for tailing these planes or arrested when you set foot on the ground......how do you and perhaps a scientist friend get the news out to the world. (Don't say youtube......as enough stuff is on there already......and 99% of the population are oblivious to it.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29004976 United States 12/06/2012 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28559908 United States 12/07/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any data that shows that these materials definitively came from aircraft, and could not be from terrestrial sources? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29212529 And please, a link to the peer reviewed paper that makes the connection with HAARP I can only guess that the Moon landing hoax and Mayans are in here somewhere too. i'd counter that by asking how you think these agents could have been released into our atmosphere WITHOUT an aircraft. catapult, perhaps? Specifically what agents? So many have been mentioned. But it's YOUR theory, it's up to you to prove that the aircraft are indeed spraying chemicals...which noone has done to date. Prove that it HAS to be from planes, that no terrestrial source could do what you claim. stop making sense! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28559908 United States 12/07/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. do this look laterally....across the terrain they skyward the particulate matter is MUCH denser within 100-500 ft of ground level, and of all the things listed in OPs post...and may more items (mercury, asbestos, dust, spores, heavy metals, argon, radon, etc) which do you think is BY ORDER OF MAGNITUDE greater in % of the air you breath it's 1000s of times more polluted but, hey...rage on chemmies |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States 12/07/2012 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. do this look laterally....across the terrain they skyward the particulate matter is MUCH denser within 100-500 ft of ground level, and of all the things listed in OPs post...and may more items (mercury, asbestos, dust, spores, heavy metals, argon, radon, etc) which do you think is BY ORDER OF MAGNITUDE greater in % of the air you breath it's 1000s of times more polluted but, hey...rage on chemmies What a crock of shit.. Just because you see man made clouds in the sky...doesn't mean they are "pollution". certainly no evidence of "1000s of times more polluted". You people with your wild and stupid statements of fact are hilarious! By the way, the elements/items you list are at ground level...and come from BILLIONS of sources. To focus on the trails...while ignoring the TRUE sources of these items...is stupid. |
CtYankee User ID: 10645599 United States 12/07/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in Bridgeport CT....sitting in my car at a CVS waiting for my wife. Was talking to myself when someone next to me says "Wow all those chemtrails" Well we were talking and 7 planes SEVEN PLANES were laying down more trails......It was so obvious that we got a few more people looking and even they questioned what was going on. Things seem to have been ramped up here in the last week to a point where they do not seem to be hiding anything!!! CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28559908 United States 12/07/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. do this look laterally....across the terrain they skyward the particulate matter is MUCH denser within 100-500 ft of ground level, and of all the things listed in OPs post...and may more items (mercury, asbestos, dust, spores, heavy metals, argon, radon, etc) which do you think is BY ORDER OF MAGNITUDE greater in % of the air you breath it's 1000s of times more polluted but, hey...rage on chemmies What a crock of shit.. Just because you see man made clouds in the sky...doesn't mean they are "pollution". certainly no evidence of "1000s of times more polluted". You people with your wild and stupid statements of fact are hilarious! By the way, the elements/items you list are at ground level...and come from BILLIONS of sources. To focus on the trails...while ignoring the TRUE sources of these items...is stupid. reread...we are in agreement the ground level pollution of far greater magnitude and danger than airplane exhaust |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States 12/07/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004976 Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. do this look laterally....across the terrain they skyward the particulate matter is MUCH denser within 100-500 ft of ground level, and of all the things listed in OPs post...and may more items (mercury, asbestos, dust, spores, heavy metals, argon, radon, etc) which do you think is BY ORDER OF MAGNITUDE greater in % of the air you breath it's 1000s of times more polluted but, hey...rage on chemmies What a crock of shit.. Just because you see man made clouds in the sky...doesn't mean they are "pollution". certainly no evidence of "1000s of times more polluted". You people with your wild and stupid statements of fact are hilarious! By the way, the elements/items you list are at ground level...and come from BILLIONS of sources. To focus on the trails...while ignoring the TRUE sources of these items...is stupid. reread...we are in agreement the ground level pollution of far greater magnitude and danger than airplane exhaust My most sincere apologies. I was out of line. I completely misread/misinterpreted your post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States 12/07/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent question There must be substances available to help offset the symptoms. I have found that Spirulina and Chlorella help the body to get rid of some of the stuff......to help turn a chronic dry cough into a productive cough. And I also like Vitamin D3 to help bolster the immune system. Perhaps some people know of some other remedies. A lot of people at work having been coming down with hacking coughs........but no fever.......suggesting particulates in the air are the problem. WRONG! There just isn't anything associated with the trails harming ANYONE! At least nothing I have seen any evidence to support any claims about. |