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WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........

 
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So it has started.....
ABC report

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Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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Half those weapons are probably broken,another 3rd are probably stolen to which they will be returned to the original owners

Morons trading their protection/rights for a meal

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fools!

that's all i gotta say about that.

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pigs prolly took half that shit home.
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Re: WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........
fools!

that's all i gotta say about that.

/gump
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yup.. can't shoot a frozen chicken when the power goes down.... further.. you can't eat a food stamp....
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fools!

that's all i gotta say about that.

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yup.. can't shoot a frozen chicken when the power goes down.... further.. you can't eat a food stamp....
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stay safe and prepared man. your posts are invaluable thank you.
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They're doing it in Los Angeles as well...
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first time i feel validated in saying "so it begins".....
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Re: WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........
MASONIC TEMPLE.... love it.

Police officers filled bins with more than 1,500 rifles and handguns outside the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena and the Van Nuys Masonic Temple, according to the Los Angeles Daily News.
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They're doing it in Los Angeles as well...
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Are you fucking retarded or what? Do you even know that Angelinos refers to those who live in/near los ANGELes?

For fucks sake engage your brain before typing...
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first time i feel validated in saying "so it begins".....
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And you too... So it begins? They run this program EVERY EYAR... NOT at this time necessarily but for fucks sake do some research... they do this all the time here in Cali. No questions asked just hand over your guns and get a food card or gift card to some store...

Pfffft and so it begins.. and so it began twenty years ago if thats what you think
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Re: WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........
So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I honestly have no idea what to make of this shit. I saw the long fucking lines, it blew my mind. Wait in a car line for hours just for $100 if you give them your gun? It just shocked me. Most of these people weren't driving cheap broken down cars either. More than half of them were brand new. Desperate people with brand new cars? This shit is a straight out propaganda with paid shills to hand in worthless weapons for media attention.
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Re: WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........
first time i feel validated in saying "so it begins".....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


And you too... So it begins? They run this program EVERY EYAR... NOT at this time necessarily but for fucks sake do some research... they do this all the time here in Cali. No questions asked just hand over your guns and get a food card or gift card to some store...

Pfffft and so it begins.. and so it began twenty years ago if thats what you think
 Quoting: Liberty87


I did, and they do, do this buy back yearly.. however; I find the statement "this was moved forward by 6 months this year, due to our current situation and history".... particularly offensive and doomish for the same reason... you? ( can you eat a food stamp, fiscal, gun control [et al]....?
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Re: WOAH MAN!!!! Swapping Guns for groceries in US report in Aus 27/12/12........
people may not give up their guns when they a well fed and happy, but they will stampede to trade them when they are thisty or hungry. It can be a matter of imminent short term survival (kick the can down the road).
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people may not give up their guns when they a well fed and happy, but they will stampede to trade them when they are thisty or hungry. It can be a matter of imminent short term survival (kick the can down the road).
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mad max series?........
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

More....
[link to www.abc.net.au]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


A silencer is NOT illegal in most states if you have the proper tax stamp and do the paper work. In Douchebaggery states like Cali its illegal. $200 for an "automatic weapon"....my ass....I'm sure they'd like to take in an auto for $200
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It is the Beginning of he End. get used to it;it will only get worse from here.
I will never give my guns away.
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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[link to www.abc.net.au]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


A silencer is NOT illegal in most states if you have the proper tax stamp and do the paper work. In Douchebaggery states like Cali its illegal. $200 for an "automatic weapon"....my ass....I'm sure they'd like to take in an auto for $200
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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[link to www.abc.net.au]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


A silencer is NOT illegal in most states if you have the proper tax stamp and do the paper work. In Douchebaggery states like Cali its illegal. $200 for an "automatic weapon"....my ass....I'm sure they'd like to take in an auto for $200
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

More....
[link to www.abc.net.au]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


I honestly have no idea what to make of this shit. I saw the long fucking lines, it blew my mind. Wait in a car line for hours just for $100 if you give them your gun? It just shocked me. Most of these people weren't driving cheap broken down cars either. More than half of them were brand new. Desperate people with brand new cars? This shit is a straight out propaganda with paid shills to hand in worthless weapons for media attention.
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Driving new cars but most likely had several childrens to take care of.
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It is the Beginning of he End. get used to it;it will only get worse from here.
I will never give my guns away.
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Sheeple are easily manipulated, but they make up the critical mass. Once the majority of the sheeple are convinced to hand over their weapons, there goes what's left of 'freedom' in the world.
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I will never give up my guns. Fuckers....come get them.
This used to be America now it looks like Russia....
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

More....
[link to www.abc.net.au]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


I honestly have no idea what to make of this shit. I saw the long fucking lines, it blew my mind. Wait in a car line for hours just for $100 if you give them your gun? It just shocked me. Most of these people weren't driving cheap broken down cars either. More than half of them were brand new. Desperate people with brand new cars? This shit is a straight out propaganda with paid shills to hand in worthless weapons for media attention.
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Driving new cars but most likely had several childrens to take care of.
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Now you GET it! Welcome to Obuttholes 'Hope and Change' new AmeriKa...How do ya like it now???
If you are not black,illegal or a criminal,you have no place in his new "hope and change' bullshit.
Somebody better write this down because even Washington didn't do what he did without obutthole right there beside him.
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I do beleive this thread now comes into play.

Thread: AMERICA..do NOT give up ya guns..REMEMBER WHAT YOU VOWED!!!!
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So it has started.....
ABC report

<snip>

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa brought forward the date of a gun buyback event following the December 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 people dead.

The Boxing Day buyback saw 1,016 weapons, including 41 rifles, handed over.

Gun owners could take their arms to one of two locations in return for a $100 grocery store gift card for handguns, rifles and shotguns, or a $200 card for automatic weapons.

"Cities and states must join with the federal government to do everything we can, as quickly as we can, to keep our community safe and to get deadly weapons off our streets," Mr Villaraigosa said.

"It is absolutely critical to provide Angelinos with concrete actions they can take today to make our city safer tomorrow."

Los Angeles' police chief Charlie Beck said 8,000 weapons had been handed in since the program started in 2009.

Long lines of cars formed as Los Angeles gun owners turned in weapons.

Sergeant Rudy Lopez from the LAPD said the fact that police were asking no questions was a key incentive.

"See that? That's a silencer," he said, pointing to an assault weapon.

"That's illegal. We didn't say anything."


<end snip>
yeah, long lines of cars..... fiscal?.... hungry?..... or is it all lovely pre-nation wide buy-back propoganda? lol

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


Do these fucking IDIOTS actually think that ANY of this happy horseshit will ever stop even ONE mass shooting, of which this is a reaction to?
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Half those weapons are probably broken,another 3rd are probably stolen to which they will be returned to the original owners

Morons trading their protection/rights for a meal
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Guns and ammo, and from what I saw they appeared to be in good condition. Stolen guns are not returned to owners. 100% of the guns turned in are melted down

The lines were so long they had to turn people away. They ran out of the "gift" cards.

The local channels interviewed the mayor ( who is so stupid he struggles to complete a thought) as well as people waiting in their cars. OMG, waiting hours in a line to turn in a gun so they could drive away with a $100 gift card for the local grocery store.

From what I saw 75% were Mexican and the other 25% were black. All the while the mayor was babbling on about the success of this program and how it has reduced violent crimes in LA.

It is sickening and frightening how easy people accept the need for government to protect us from ourselves. Stupid fucking people
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Idiots. They could get $1000 for those ARs I saw being put into trash cans. Sheeples. Drive yo car down to the Masonic Temple and turn in a $1000 gun for $100 ebt card. According to the report, there are no questions axed. So, if babymama turns in an AK that was used in several drive-bys, LAPD won't have a clue who it was that turned it in before they melt down the evidence?
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Idiots. They could get $1000 for those ARs I saw being put into trash cans. Sheeples. Drive yo car down to the Masonic Temple and turn in a $1000 gun for $100 ebt card. According to the report, there are no questions axed. So, if babymama turns in an AK that was used in several drive-bys, LAPD won't have a clue who it was that turned it in before they melt down the evidence?
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good point... evidence = non retrievable aka gubernment incentive.....
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Swords into ploughshares..
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it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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Here on the Gold Coast I can go out after dark [unarmed] without fear.

Dear CP.. as u know......

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I lived and worked in the states '88-'90 so I've seen it from the inside. Had fun with [hand] guns during lunch hour out in the sticks of Virginia. When I lived in LA you could hear the "pops" at new years eve and thought twice about being outdoors.
Back here in OZ a few years later we got our guns took away but mostly they were rifles 'cause hand guns never really were in vogue. In fact gun culture was almost non existent so it wasn't no big deal getting "disarmed"

But of course if you want a gun of any variety.. a whisper and a fist full of dollars will satiate that desire but most of us live on the coast and a gun is something you keep in your quiver of surfboards. Most Ozians admire our yankee cousins but at the same time consider the country half nuts.

And it makes my blood boil when I hear Merka is "the greatest country in the world" shouted from the hill tops and city blocks... Town squares. The freedom and liberty yo'll proclaim is yours and yours ALONE is naught but hot air and wind from a nation with it's nose pressed up against the glass of a 36 inch TV screen.

The great dream and the wild frontier are long gone like the buffalo and wagon.. YET you persist in the false doctrine that the gun will protect and any amount of persuasion otherwise draws hackles of outrage and condemnation especially to any god danged 'ferner' who would dare to question, what; in the civilised world, is considered as outdated as is the muscat and the flint.

I might add. Gun control came to us some 16 year ago. I note most Ozians are not behind bars nor are we less free than thee. ;)

I trust my comments will be considered civil.

Thank you.





GLP