Woman Charged Over New York Firefighter Ambush Gun

Why the hell did a convicted killer have an AR-15 in the first place???

Maybe the US really should re-consider its gun laws..

She purchased the weapons.....then he got a hold of them but how? Why would she give them to him?

That would be like charging a women for provoking a rapist because she was wearing slutty clothes...

Idiots... Your country is run by a fuckin clown..

Im sure some force was involved...

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This is too weird!! He just got out of prison, why would she give him weapons?

In a typewritten note found at the scene, Spengler revealed that he obtained the weapons from Nguyen, who for a time lived next door to him in Webster, Hochul said.

In that same note, Spengler pledged to see "how much of the neighborhood I can burn down." He said he wanted to "do what I like doing best, killing people."


Doesn't say force but we won't know until later when more information comes out. She didn't report him - break in or anything yet

pin for more info.???

Because the woman illegally gave it to him. It was against the law for her to give him the rifle, it was against the law for the felon to posses it, it was against the law for the felon to use it in the commission of a felony, it was against the law to murder the fireman, it was against the law to shoot at the police and it was against the law to set fire to the house to draw the fireman to the scene.

What law shall we pass to prevent this?

would not be hard for a crim to force a woman to obtain weapons he was restricted from.

thats the best yet for removing assualt rifles from the general population.

Well, wouldn't you know it. The article left out a lot of important information, I guess so the public can play guessing games and think it's another conspiracy, to try to laugh at us?



When did she buy the weapons?

How did he get the weapons from her?

Passing laws creates lawbreakers and criminals. Therefore let's pass a law making law-making illegal.

I'm pretty sure it all stems from soft drinks being too large.

I'd rather remove the mental defectives from the general population. Spengler should have been put to death for the murder of his Grandmother back in 1980 (with a claw hammer by the way) or kept in prison for life. If he was kept off the streets this would have never happened.

You're right. Why didn't he get death penalty? NY doesn't have death penalty? Plus, if the lady was a neighbor, wouldn't you think she would be trying to protect herself since he was her neighbor (aware he was getting out)? I think he might of snuck in or something and stole the weapons.

The problem is that your gun laws are too loose...
No need to pass a new law..Just re-vamp the current ones..

I'm totally aware that all the actions that lead up to the event are against the law..
I don't believe she just "gave" him the gun...

Where her guns locked up???

Was the ammo stored in a different spot?? also locked up??

What did she need the AR-15 for???

Is she military or combat trained?? You don't hunt with an AR...

See where im going here......

Are you really that fucking dumb. Criminals don't obey the law. So if they ban guns all the people that shouldn't have them will turn them in? How's that work in Canada? Did all the criminals turn in banned weapons? If you say yes your not only fucking retarded your a lying piece of shit. When it comes to our constitutional right keep your two sense to yourself.

Wow such hostility...
Let me guess you own an assault rifle and think your tough??

And apparently you can read either... I never said ban guns..

I hunt with my ar. I hunt ground hog, coyotes, and wolves. And I know a few that also hunt whitetails with them. And our second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

It's already illegal for him to have it, and for her to provide it to her.

Passing more laws won't make it any more illegal.

Enforce the laws we have. Don't use made-up excuses to add bad laws on top of them.

Can you americans fuckin read????
Where in my post did i ever say Pass more laws or ban guns??


I guess this just goes to show that your tax payer money does not go for education...

A fine breed of superior idiots...

No I do t think I'm tough I know I am and don't need any weapon to make me that way. And that's where it starts with more restrictions, then registration and then confiscation. We don't need anymore laws, just enforce the ones we have. Under Obama illegal gun crime conviction is way down. For Christ sake under his watch his administration sent illegal weapons to the Mexican drug cartels. And they want tougher laws on the law abiding citizens, that's what pisses me off the most, fucking hypocrites!
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And how do the kill look after being taken with a .223 round?? Pretty fucked up i bet... So i assume you hunt just for fun?? do you eat the kill??

This article says the weapons were stolen :

Investigators are still unsure of Dawn's motive in the ambush.

Dawn's lawyer, Dave Palmiere, claims his client purchased weapons legally, but they were mysteriously stolen.

One gun was actually a .223 Bushmaster, the exact model Adam Lanza used to kill 26 people in Newtown, Connecticut at the beginning of this month.



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So what do you mean by "rethinking our gun laws"

Government gun-walking from legal owners to potential perpetrators? Didn't get the desired oomph out of Sandy Hook, damn debunkers ... gotta do something else fast!

Well to start, NO FULL AUTOS!!
To own the same weapon here in canada it falls under "restricted" meaning the laws are different than the laws for you average rifle..

To possess a restricted weapon you must be a member of a shooting club or range and make regular visits.. Otherwise they can revoke your license..Your current spouse or ex of the previous 2 years must also sign the application..
You must obtain a authorization to transport anytime you want to take the weapon out of your home..
Magazines are limited to a max of 10 rounds..

Maybe the US should look at other countries guns laws as an example..

I'm not saying ban guns as i believe you have the right to own one as long as your responsible and nut a fucking nut job..

Clearly the owner of this weapon was not a responsible gun owner and therefor she should of never had the weapon to begin with...

Oh my god, You know nothing about firearms do you. 223 is a very popular varmint round. They don't allow pest control in Canada? Here farmers will pay a bounty on ground hogs and coyotes. And you asked what the kill looks like, well using ballistic tips there isn't much left of a ground hog, and a coyote or wolf you aim for the head or neck. And no I don't eat ground hog, coyotes or wolves. We have seasons on them to keep there numbers in check. I personally don't use 223 for deer hunting I was just telling you I know of people that do and they are very successful.

You really, and I mean REALLY know nothing about ballistics.

Check, full autos banned in 1934 and needed a $200 transfer tax. Fully banned from transfer in 1988.

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