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Bucephelus (OP) User ID: 31518006 United States 01/11/2013 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . It's fucking amazing that the leader of one branch of Congress is asking the Executive Branch to violate the Constitution and usurp power away from both branches of Congress. Harry Reid is becoming a clear and present danger to the People. . Bucephelus |
TastyThoughts User ID: 1308649 United States 01/11/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Setting the "Precedent" MMmm? "They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts) "Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts) "Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts) |
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IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/11/2013 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government. . So first we hear that POTUS might use an executive order to push through a new mandate on guns basically giving the finger to representative government Now the elected members themselves are begging him to bypass them and again rule by fiat Why bother having elections then? Apparently we just got ourselves a king Y'know, I didnt like Bush much either, but honestly , if Bush had done half this crap, democrats would be howling tyranny and dictatorship but when their guy does it, it's A-OK Both sides suck eggs...time for a new party, obviously these two aren't up for the job of representing us |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513486 United States 01/11/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus You Democrats are about to cross the line with this shit! ONLY Congress has the right to do this: Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power ... To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;" [link to news.yahoo.com] Top Democratic senators urged President Barack Obama on Friday to be ready to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval in order to avert a damaging debt default. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team said Obama should use "any lawful steps" under his authority to "ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis." They urged Obama to act on his own if Republicans insist on a debt limit extension that is coupled with "unbalanced or unreasonable" spending cuts. Some analysts and Democrats believe the 14th Amendment of the Constitution gives the president the authority to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling unilaterally. . we will see how this fares....have u check ur paycheck lately???... |
Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 01/11/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how they do it... Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world... Of course the never give it back... Just call him Ceasar... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 01/11/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how they do it... Quoting: Saddletramp Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world... Of course the never give it back... Just call him Ceasar... And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/11/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how they do it... Quoting: Saddletramp Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world... Of course the never give it back... Just call him Ceasar... And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet... exactly more and more headlines out of DC lately remind me of an episode of "I Claudius" we need a good old fashioned palace revolt clear some house |
TastyThoughts User ID: 1308649 United States 01/11/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government. You may have misinterpreted the point. That happens in this format of communication often. So, Precedent in terms of pulling the wool over the sheeps eyes. The golden fleece? "They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts) "Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts) "Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26944204 United States 01/11/2013 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have a system for creating laws here in America. If law can be created by one man and his pen, then I'm sorry folks, our president will be a dictator and this will in fact be a communist dictatorship. And really, to other countries we must look like fools. Hypocritical, out of control fools. |
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Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 01/11/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how they do it... Quoting: Saddletramp Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world... Of course the never give it back... Just call him Ceasar... And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet... exactly more and more headlines out of DC lately remind me of an episode of "I Claudius" we need a good old fashioned palace revolt clear some house Eh tu Brute... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Bammetje User ID: 14179742 Netherlands 01/11/2013 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I think is big fun that you Yanks hardly see the difference between a deficit problem and a new weapon rule. In between your US Army is already involveld in a war against Mali in Africa. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
SmellslikeDrama User ID: 1267719 United States 01/11/2013 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government. . If he does it , then the u.s must be under martial law and or a declaration of imminent invasion of war , and the constitution is suspended along with all other government powers. hmmmmmm |
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Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada 01/12/2013 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how much more needs to happen before the tyranny you fear actually begins? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168 You serious ... begins?? No fly lists, TSA pat downs and privacy invasions, warrantless communications monitoring, weaponized drone assassinations approved by President Small Ball, governing by executive orders, enforce the law of land including the Constitution only when it fits the agenda, not pass a budget going on 4 years Add it all up and the US of A is well on the way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24289757 United States 02/11/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus You Democrats are about to cross the line with this shit! ONLY Congress has the right to do this: Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power ... To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;" [link to news.yahoo.com] Top Democratic senators urged President Barack Obama on Friday to be ready to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval in order to avert a damaging debt default. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team said Obama should use "any lawful steps" under his authority to "ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis." They urged Obama to act on his own if Republicans insist on a debt limit extension that is coupled with "unbalanced or unreasonable" spending cuts. Some analysts and Democrats believe the 14th Amendment of the Constitution gives the president the authority to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling unilaterally. . |