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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16911207 United States 03/02/2013 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’ Quoting: UGLY FAT GUY 30262762 [link to www.lifesitenews.com] January 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center. Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time. Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely. Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years. “Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism. Not just Feminism but also blame it on porn and homosexuality...all of it from the Communist agenda used to destroy the traditional American family and its values. |
Laff User ID: 9506273 United States 03/02/2013 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me. Quoting: Spine monkey I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right? And all those married couples I know--just lucky. Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something. Totally agree with this. I've been with my husband for thirty years. Loving every minute. I know a lot of people that have been happily married for a long time. Maybe you people that are so down on marriage are bad pickers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 636186 United States 03/02/2013 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes Sir, the problem is women have been led to believe they are victims by the media, they are convinced by the media they are always being discriminated against by men, so they strive to succeed, become highly educated, attain good jobs, yet they are never, ever satisfied, women still want more, so they have kids, start a family, yet it still is not enough, it's not like what the Kardashians have nor like other reality shows, so, they throw their man away, get a divorce, plastic surgery and get themselves a new man, a younger man, yet it is still not enough, 'till one day they find themselves very old and very much alone! Quoting: polyphemus75 Bingo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25647766 United States 03/02/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28039530 Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men. Exactly! Just brainwashed desperate naive dumb women! How the fuck is marriage bad for women but good for men???? That is the stupidest post of the day. Both men and women work full time outside of the home. But women have another full time job at home looking after the kids and the house, cooking etc. (Speaking for the majority of cases, obviously there are exceptions.) ok, since none of that actually has to do with marriage but more of a relationship in general. How is it good for men? So women complain about not being in the workforce and whatever else and they get what they want but then they keep complaining after they have gotten what they want and men are splitting the chores....wtf else do they want? Are women the new black? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25867801 United States 03/02/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes Sir, the problem is women have been led to believe they are victims by the media, they are convinced by the media they are always being discriminated against by men, so they strive to succeed, become highly educated, attain good jobs, yet they are never, ever satisfied, women still want more, so they have kids, start a family, yet it still is not enough, it's not like what the Kardashians have nor like other reality shows, so, they throw their man away, get a divorce, plastic surgery and get themselves a new man, a younger man, yet it is still not enough, 'till one day they find themselves very old and very much alone! Quoting: polyphemus75 Bingo. +1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30152926 United States 03/03/2013 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me. Quoting: Spine monkey I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right? And all those married couples I know--just lucky. Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something. Their is a generational difference. The women of today are NOT the women of 30 years ago. It's a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent woman. I'm at least average looking, extremely fit, kind to a fault, and make almost 200k a year. All the promising women I've dated end up being huge disappointments. Liars, cheaters, gold diggers. It's not just me. Good guys finish last in our society of predatory feminazis. probably the type of girl you go after. i know girls like that...you can tell by looking at them, too. and you can certainly tell upon talking with them for longer than 2 minutes about ANYTHING. but hey, i agree, most women are just.....not what they should be, at best. then again, neither are most men these days...but i don't go around whining about it. why not live your life, if you are gonna sit and complain about it that doesn't saying much about your damn self, now does it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12818767 United States 03/03/2013 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a attractive 28 year old, female, with a MBA and a bachelors in biology and get passed over for the blond skinny useless arm bling...so don't just blame women when all men want is something to show off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744 thats the problem with women today, they try to sell their college degree or career to get a man, but men dont care about that, men looking for women only care about two things, your looks and if you are a good person |
curiousbrit User ID: 34616551 United Kingdom 03/03/2013 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a attractive 28 year old, female, with a MBA and a bachelors in biology and get passed over for the blond skinny useless arm bling...so don't just blame women when all men want is something to show off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744 thats the problem with women today, they try to sell their college degree or career to get a man, but men dont care about that, men looking for women only care about two things, your looks and if you are a good person its more about your looks and what security you can offer as well as the trinkets. I dont think the 'good person' bit matters so much |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12818767 United States 03/03/2013 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a attractive 28 year old, female, with a MBA and a bachelors in biology and get passed over for the blond skinny useless arm bling...so don't just blame women when all men want is something to show off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744 thats the problem with women today, they try to sell their college degree or career to get a man, but men dont care about that, men looking for women only care about two things, your looks and if you are a good person its more about your looks and what security you can offer as well as the trinkets. I dont think the 'good person' bit matters so much i dont look to women for security |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34293114 Poland 03/03/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would have no problem with marriage. my problem is with the legal system which overwhelmingly favors the female partner in any and all disputes, up to and including divorce. because of that immensely biased system, i could never get married, especially in light of recent court precedent which makes pre-nuptual agreements invalid based on anything a feminist judge feels like invalidating them for. no thanks, ladies! but hey, why don't we just stay friends, the friendzone isnt that bad right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34293114 ^this |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24564357 United States 03/03/2013 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been married for 8 years and just had my third baby with my husband. he's very happy with me and I attribute it to a few things I do that I think a lot of women out there don't. I make him pies on occasion. Not that as a woman you have to make your man a pie, but make him his favorite food sometimes to remind him you think he's special. I maintain my looks for him. I'm 5'7 and was a rough 150 after my 2nd baby. I hit the weights, hard, and got back to my high school weight of 125 and I could out do him in pullups, take that feminists, he wasn't threatened a bit, just motivated to hit the gym himself. I make sure we have date nights away from the kids and the occasional weekend getaway by ourselves when we can. If you're poor, you can't do much but even if we just go parking for an hour somewhere, talk, canoodle, it helps to bring back the spark. If you structure your life completely around your kids, it is impossible to feel sexy or romantic. We are both smart enough to realize marriage is a wave. You don't get to always stay at the peak. You will come down for a while and then you work your way back to the top. Neither of us take happiness for granted. When we married each other, we agreed it was a 24/7 job. I work hard for him and he works hard for me! Marriage is, like anything else in life, what you make of it. You can have a happy one but marry someone who is dedicated to working at it every day with you! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137819 Canada 03/03/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And another thing I swear I cannot understand, what is this BS with all these women using sex to control their husbands? Then you wonder why he gets resentful? I hear the same shit all the time, "My wife is not interested in sex anymore. Or my wife is frigid and We haven't has sex in months." Look, you women have to understand, you have to do your wifley duty and fuck the guy, not just once in awhile, or when you feel ike it. You have to do it when you know you don't always feel good, the old headache routine. But not when you're deathly ill, or when there's say, a death in the family,ok? But you women are neglecting your husbands and it DOES make them very resentful. I don't want to hear the fucking excuses,ok? I don't care about your excuses! Don't tell me that you're so busy with your lives and the kids come first. Then you wonder why he divorces your ass! Get your asses in that bedroom and do your duty, FUCK his eyes out and then you can get back to being a mommy 24/7! Don't you girls know the rule? Feed him, fuck him, and put him to bed!That way he will stay out of your hair. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34765812 United Kingdom 03/03/2013 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been married for 8 years and just had my third baby with my husband. he's very happy with me and I attribute it to a few things I do that I think a lot of women out there don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24564357 I make him pies on occasion. Not that as a woman you have to make your man a pie, but make him his favorite food sometimes to remind him you think he's special. I maintain my looks for him. I'm 5'7 and was a rough 150 after my 2nd baby. I hit the weights, hard, and got back to my high school weight of 125 and I could out do him in pullups, take that feminists, he wasn't threatened a bit, just motivated to hit the gym himself. I make sure we have date nights away from the kids and the occasional weekend getaway by ourselves when we can. If you're poor, you can't do much but even if we just go parking for an hour somewhere, talk, canoodle, it helps to bring back the spark. If you structure your life completely around your kids, it is impossible to feel sexy or romantic. We are both smart enough to realize marriage is a wave. You don't get to always stay at the peak. You will come down for a while and then you work your way back to the top. Neither of us take happiness for granted. When we married each other, we agreed it was a 24/7 job. I work hard for him and he works hard for me! Marriage is, like anything else in life, what you make of it. You can have a happy one but marry someone who is dedicated to working at it every day with you! 1) 8 years is fuck all, come back in a few more years 2) take care of yourself FOR YOURSELF 3) you sound well, suited. both complete dullards with a fucking plan for everything, even spontaneity is run with nazi-like punctuality 4) everything else - no shit sherlock 5) youre a man aint ya? the whole pull-ups = feminism was the kicker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34765812 United Kingdom 03/03/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many women focus themselves around their kids and the man gets left out and it makes for a lot of unhappy marriages sometimes. They need to feel appreciated. Quoting: hawk8414 And another thing I swear I cannot understand, what is this BS with all these women using sex to control their husbands? Then you wonder why he gets resentful? I hear the same shit all the time, "My wife is not interested in sex anymore. Or my wife is frigid and We haven't has sex in months." Look, you women have to understand, you have to do your wifley duty and fuck the guy, not just once in awhile, or when you feel ike it. You have to do it when you know you don't always feel good, the old headache routine. But not when you're deathly ill, or when there's say, a death in the family,ok? But you women are neglecting your husbands and it DOES make them very resentful. I don't want to hear the fucking excuses,ok? I don't care about your excuses! Don't tell me that you're so busy with your lives and the kids come first. Then you wonder why he divorces your ass! Get your asses in that bedroom and do your duty, FUCK his eyes out and then you can get back to being a mommy 24/7! Don't you girls know the rule? Feed him, fuck him, and put him to bed!That way he will stay out of your hair. go fucking die in a hole, and take your boy-child mates with ya |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24564357 United States 03/03/2013 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) 8 years is fuck all, come back in a few more years 2) take care of yourself FOR YOURSELF 3) you sound well, suited. both complete dullards with a fucking plan for everything, even spontaneity is run with nazi-like punctuality 4) everything else - no shit sherlock 5) youre a man aint ya? the whole pull-ups = feminism was the kicker LOL bitter much? Of course I take care of myself for myself too but I don't really care about wearing perfume or doing my hair or even keeping my hair long really. My husband likes all that though so I do it to make him happy. A happy marriage is sometimes doing things for your spouse that aren't that big of a deal in the big scheme for you but are a big deal for them. Perhaps your unhappiness at this thread is a manifestation of your unhappiness at home? Do they pay for your therapy in the UK? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35483658 Sweden 03/03/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder crime rates and immorality is higher than ever. I study criminology and one theory claims that if social bonds are getting weaker, crime will rise as a result. Social bonds could be marriage, the traditional family, the church, institutions etc etc. When these things are removed from our lives, we will no longer feel a strong social bond like we did in the mid 20th century, and crime rates will go up. TPTB knows this and they want to destroy the traditional family by using media, TV and movies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2789088 Canada 03/03/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many women focus themselves around their kids and the man gets left out and it makes for a lot of unhappy marriages sometimes. They need to feel appreciated. Quoting: hawk8414 And another thing I swear I cannot understand, what is this BS with all these women using sex to control their husbands? Then you wonder why he gets resentful? I hear the same shit all the time, "My wife is not interested in sex anymore. Or my wife is frigid and We haven't has sex in months." Look, you women have to understand, you have to do your wifley duty and fuck the guy, not just once in awhile, or when you feel ike it. You have to do it when you know you don't always feel good, the old headache routine. But not when you're deathly ill, or when there's say, a death in the family,ok? But you women are neglecting your husbands and it DOES make them very resentful. I don't want to hear the fucking excuses,ok? I don't care about your excuses! Don't tell me that you're so busy with your lives and the kids come first. Then you wonder why he divorces your ass! Get your asses in that bedroom and do your duty, FUCK his eyes out and then you can get back to being a mommy 24/7! Don't you girls know the rule? Feed him, fuck him, and put him to bed!That way he will stay out of your hair. go fucking die in a hole, and take your boy-child mates with ya No, you don't get it. It's your job, bitches! and btw, I'm a woman so I know what it takes. The guys don't ask much but you all act like it's about to fucking kill you to fuck your husbands. I can understand it you're going through menopause, but still if you don't put out, then they will cheat. Doesn't matter, if he does and you catch him, ask him straight up why did he do it? I'll bet you get some interesting answers. I'm singe,too btw. Believe been there done that. Not doing it anymore. So fuck you and go die off somewhere you sorry sack of shit. I know a man who told me that he and his wife have been married for over 30 yrs. when they first got married, he told her straight up,"You can do whatever you want, I don't give a damn,ok? You can runaround, have a bf, go places, spend time with your family and friends upstate, whatever. But you're NOT getting half my money." Guess what? she stayed. Says a lot doesn't it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35490600 Brazil 03/03/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF woman do not behave like womans as God had intended them, they become whores, and adulteress and sexual objects for the short period of their beauty. A woman has to invest everything on one man and one man only. That is the only way the man will KEEP HER past the point of her beauty. So what we have today is that woman who got deceived with the whole independence/equality, of being modern woman, having careers, and not subjecting to their husbands is that they end up getting thrown out. Just like woman got deceived. Man got deceived as well. The only reason a man will see a woman as the only woman of his life, or the woman for the rest of his life is if the woman is a virgin and subjects to him. If the woman does not, then she cast her husband away, become an adulteress and not a single man will see her as a potential life time partner, but just an object of pride/lust/vanity. Woman therefore get cycled by man who only use them and when they get past their 30's, 40's, they realize they will never have a family, that no man will ever keep her, because SHE NO LONGER HAS HER YOUTH, BEAUTY, INNOCENCE, EXCLUSIVITY to offer. Woman now can choose, thats a good thing, but not only they have to choose the right man, but they also must submissive to that husband, BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY THING THAT BALANCES A MAN KEEPING THE WIFE ONCE SHE GETS OLD. So she has to choose, be an object for two decades, and most dont even really get full benefit from it. Womans are on a time bomb, the more they invest on a man, the more submissive they have to be, because older they get, less chance they have to find a man who will treasure her. There is no amount of anything that will save a lone woman on her 40's. If by that time she didnt gave all her heart so one man and bound him to her, then she has nothing to offer. And man likewise, to surpass a young woman as a sex object, only a woman who is fully devout and submissive to him since her youth. Otherwise the first time the woman is disrespectfull he will look her, see that she is no longer fair enough to justify that disrespect and will just pick a 18 year old girl instead. And the woman will be left alone, no more as the beauty/mature fruit ready for the ripe. Will realize she cant compete with the other young woman. BECAUSE THATS GOD's DESIGN that woman get old and no man will endure any of her ramblings past a certain point. And all because she got deceived into thinking she was like a man, when God clearly has not intended so. So the only way a woman can have a stable fruitfull family, a fullfiling relationship, a husband that will love her no matter if she is young or old to her latter days, IS TO REALIZE THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE INVESTED ENOUGH INTO HER HUSBAND. And a circle only runs around one axis. If she does not comply and be a submissive woman to her husband, then nature will screw her. She has to make the choice. The younger the woman gets her husband and lives for him, the stronger the bound that will keep him to her. Now a woman on her 30's would be delusional to think that she will find a man willing to constitute family with her and live all his life with her. Realistically, if a woman has not found a husband until her 25 years old or so and INVESTED everything ON HIM, to make him his husband rather than career/job, its all downhill from there. A woman can be self willed and rebellious if she is a teenager or up to her twenties, buts its a time bomb, the longer the time passes the more she has to addapt and submit to her husband. What a woman has to offer to a man, has only worth if the man got it from the beggining, her innocence, beauty/youth, possibility of many healthy children, and rejoicing/refreshment on her breasts :D That all runs on a clock. She can give much more than a man wants or needs when she is young, but if If a woman invested enough and made that husband really happy/love her for the years of his life, then he will not throw her away once she gets old. They will live happily ever after. Thats the mechanic of a relationship. Woman gives everything first, so that the man will keep her later on. If the woman does not give enough, then the man will find another woman and the former will remain alone. How come these inteligent modern woman dont realize that? They all go a whoring, picking man like man pick woman, unbeknown to the fact that the longer they whore, the less likely to find someone who wants more than just her decaying flesh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2789088 Canada 03/03/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF woman do not behave like womans as God had intended them, they become whores, and adulteress and sexual objects for the short period of their beauty. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35490600 A woman has to invest everything on one man and one man only. That is the only way the man will KEEP HER past the point of her beauty. So what we have today is that woman who got deceived with the whole independence/equality, of being modern woman, having careers, and not subjecting to their husbands is that they end up getting thrown out. Just like woman got deceived. Man got deceived as well. The only reason a man will see a woman as the only woman of his life, or the woman for the rest of his life is if the woman is a virgin and subjects to him. If the woman does not, then she cast her husband away, become an adulteress and not a single man will see her as a potential life time partner, but just an object of pride/lust/vanity. Woman therefore get cycled by man who only use them and when they get past their 30's, 40's, they realize they will never have a family, that no man will ever keep her, because SHE NO LONGER HAS HER YOUTH, BEAUTY, INNOCENCE, EXCLUSIVITY to offer. Woman now can choose, thats a good thing, but not only they have to choose the right man, but they also must submissive to that husband, BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY THING THAT BALANCES A MAN KEEPING THE WIFE ONCE SHE GETS OLD. So she has to choose, be an object for two decades, and most dont even really get full benefit from it. Womans are on a time bomb, the more they invest on a man, the more submissive they have to be, because older they get, less chance they have to find a man who will treasure her. There is no amount of anything that will save a lone woman on her 40's. If by that time she didnt gave all her heart so one man and bound him to her, then she has nothing to offer. And man likewise, to surpass a young woman as a sex object, only a woman who is fully devout and submissive to him since her youth. Otherwise the first time the woman is disrespectfull he will look her, see that she is no longer fair enough to justify that disrespect and will just pick a 18 year old girl instead. And the woman will be left alone, no more as the beauty/mature fruit ready for the ripe. Will realize she cant compete with the other young woman. BECAUSE THATS GOD's DESIGN that woman get old and no man will endure any of her ramblings past a certain point. And all because she got deceived into thinking she was like a man, when God clearly has not intended so. So the only way a woman can have a stable fruitfull family, a fullfiling relationship, a husband that will love her no matter if she is young or old to her latter days, IS TO REALIZE THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE INVESTED ENOUGH INTO HER HUSBAND. And a circle only runs around one axis. If she does not comply and be a submissive woman to her husband, then nature will screw her. She has to make the choice. The younger the woman gets her husband and lives for him, the stronger the bound that will keep him to her. Now a woman on her 30's would be delusional to think that she will find a man willing to constitute family with her and live all his life with her. Realistically, if a woman has not found a husband until her 25 years old or so and INVESTED everything ON HIM, to make him his husband rather than career/job, its all downhill from there. A woman can be self willed and rebellious if she is a teenager or up to her twenties, buts its a time bomb, the longer the time passes the more she has to addapt and submit to her husband. What a woman has to offer to a man, has only worth if the man got it from the beggining, her innocence, beauty/youth, possibility of many healthy children, and rejoicing/refreshment on her breasts :D That all runs on a clock. She can give much more than a man wants or needs when she is young, but if If a woman invested enough and made that husband really happy/love her for the years of his life, then he will not throw her away once she gets old. They will live happily ever after. Thats the mechanic of a relationship. Woman gives everything first, so that the man will keep her later on. If the woman does not give enough, then the man will find another woman and the former will remain alone. How come these inteligent modern woman dont realize that? They all go a whoring, picking man like man pick woman, unbeknown to the fact that the longer they whore, the less likely to find someone who wants more than just her decaying flesh. Hey you stupid fuck, there's a difference between the words woman and women. Men vs man. Get it? Now fucking use proper terms when describing people dumbass! |