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Agreed Abi -

We should not forget the challenges presented to some of the world's top, most advanced military forces (the US included) by sandal wearing, ill equipped, but strong hearted indigenous peoples in
Korea
Viet Nam
Panama
Iraq
Afghanistan

OK, I'll bite. Glad to.

Who called them demons? That's a weak way to debate. It's outright lying of what was posted. Talk about extreme; you're the perpetrator of extreme comments.

Yeah, they galvanized gun-owners and the NRA among others. They definitely are in cahoots with each other. Have you ever seen the membership for the Council on Foreign Relations? Trilateral Commission. It's on both sides of the political spectrum.

Are you seriously telling me that the media except for Fox News (and I'm not a fan) is not liberal? Are you stupid or just obtuse? That's well established. It's a no-brainer.

They will never ever quietly take our guns and ammo. It's an inherrent(given at birth) inalienable (can't be removed) natural right of a constituional republic. You did actually graduate from High School or College, right? You did listen when discussing The American Revolution. You know that The Bill of Rights was made to guarantee those rights, and that they can't be legislated away without Amending the Constitution. I bet you can't debate that whatsoever.

One World Government! Are you insane? Why would the American people ever give up their soverignity? Do you know what that word means within the context of a constitutional republic? Are you daft? The People of the USA are soverign, not Obama. The People.

If you're not a shill, you're the lamest weakest excuse for an American citizen that I've ever met.

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Portland Oregon here. The ammo shelves are being emptied everywhere I go. AR-15s are sold out everywhere and if you can find one its like 2000.00+. Heard a guy in one gun shop the other day saying how Obama is the best gun salesman in history.

And this coming from someone who thinks the government wants to murder them. ya ok

We're only sovereign citizens when we stop being corporate fictions. This is too complex to explain here, but on every social security card, on every credit card, the person's name is in capital letters, making that person a corporate fiction, and because the U.S. government is a corporation, it can only have authority over corporate fictions, hence the government has gone to great lengths to hide from Americans how they can declare their sovereignty as citizens.

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its all on you can you live with this?? I thinnk not!!

I know what my rights are thanks tho. My statement is towards tho who commented believing the government has an evil agenda behind all this.
Calling people names and trying to put me down just makes you look weak minded and there is no way to debate someone like that.

No, it's not "hundreds of thousands of rounds of hollow points" that the DHS has purchased... no... IT IS 1.7 BILLION ROUNDS of hollow points purchased by DHS (in violation of the Geneva Convention to use on the battlefield, btw). The sons-a-bitches are looking to put 5 rounds or more in every man, woman, and child in the United States of America. Shameful...

Rally round, boys, rally once again...

Not to mention that the bible says:

"When they are shouting 'Peace! Peace!' when there IS no peace, then sudden destruction will come upon them, and they shall not escape."


Also (in regards to the antichrist):

"By peace, he will destroy many."

Thanks. I would be willing to be they're young. Ever since Star Trek the Next Generation they've been pushing the One World Government in all the Science Fictions shows. If you go back and look at them again, you'll see it. It's innundated our young people so much for so long that they parrot it like it would be a good idea that Zimbabwe would have an equal voice to the USA in a one world government. How in the Hell would that be a good idea? Would it be good for them? No, all countries need autonomy. All people have the right to their own government and decide whatsoever how to live within their nation. Why in the world would we want other nations telling what kind of government, healthcare, economic systems, military use, I've aghast at the stupidity of giving up your right to self-determination, as if that wouldn't be a massive dictatorship that would be so repressive that it make Stalin or Mao look like benevolent granddads.

Fook!

It's pathetic that you can't put together the least intellectual argument. The heck with you. I tried to give you the benefit of a doubt. I bet you have never read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, nor understand them.

You probably haven't read a history book either.

Debate me if you dare you pathetic excuse for an American citizen. How can you debate anyone if you can't bother to spell? Do you know what a comma is?

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They had to buy more ammunition reason being the ammunition dumps that exploded a couple of months back.

I'm not saying a one world government is in the mix i'm saying if what the majority says on here is actually going on behind our backs then it is not an evil agenda.
The best shot at a peaceful planet would be the whole world united as one. Planet earth is who we are and what we should represent. Too many people lost in the chaos of race and nationality.
And yes read back in this thread there are numerous people saying the government has a sinister plot. If anything these are the people who are continuing the problem and steering everyone down the wrong tracks.
90% of people who read this might disagree but I see a lot of people hell bent on doom and evil government conspiracies that i'm not surprised.

So I take it that you (being a shill or profound idiot) are completely unaware of the globalist plans to eliminate the majority of "useless eaters"? Completely oblivious to all of the repeats of history, where governments that initially acted JUST LIKE THIS ONE, killed off MILLIONS and MILLIONS of their own citizens?

I guess you are also oblivious to the government labeling anyone who believes in the constitution as an "extremist" and a "potential terrorist"? I guess you are also ignorant about the government ramping up for a MAJOR war, by purchasing billions of combat rounds, firearms, weaponized drones by the THOUSANDS, and having declared (through the NDAA) the entire continent of America as a "battle zone"?


I take it that you are oblivious to this?

Of course not... Shill.

Nobody is interested in ANYTHING you are saying, shill.

Now go back and crawl into your hole, and get ready to meet the Lord. Just like the "elite" are preparing to do, in their underground tombs that they are building just as fast as they can.

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes when the time comes, shill.

That is the most naive crap I have ever heard. Are you 15?

Tell you what, you are majorly derailing this topic. Go away. Make up your own topic that promotes one world governement. Not here.

With a total absence of decorum we could exchange ice cream recipes and it would be just as pertinent as your comments.

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It is rather ironic that they have prepared their own coffins beneath the surface of the earth.

The guy is either a shill, or an excellent candidate for GLP's "Idiot of the Week" award.

I wasn't aware this was an essay, I type however I want as long as the point gets across I don't give a damn. THe fact you have to pick at things to try and start a classic online argument means you have nothing.
you don't even have anything informative you just try and put me down in every single sentence. I am only reading it because I try to keep an open mind and listen to everyones point of views.
I'm not arguing the constitution or bill of rights and I didn't give my stance on the gun control. I know how badly you want your doom but i'm sorry to say this isn't it. Make your own doom if you need it so bad.

Read that last line of my post you quoted.
I'll help:

THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS

shill this shill that yaya. Notice how anyone who ruins doom boners gets called shill and a sad attempt at insults. Were on the same team you just don't see it yet bud.

yes learn on iron sights and all that but save up for a good optic. If you have eye problems from old age, you'll be amazed at how much better you can shoot with a quality optic.

Dont mess with the our guns......not rocket science.

Nope. Scratch. Your claim is entirely without merit. I posted replies to your assertions about "demons". You need to scroll back, or actually read instead of a diatribe on One World Government, because that has absolutely nothing to do with guns in a gun store.

If you don't understand Natural Rights, the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, what any of those words mean that I used, what the issues are, the legalities, the role of a constitutional republic, the difference in a system with Checks and Balances, the role of the Legislative versus the Executive versus the Judiciary, you cannot possibly debate gun control.

That's insane, foolish, asinine to imagine you can toss a goofy naive idea, and then expect anyone to take you seriously.

Even if it were pertinent, you'd have to illustrate how that would be superior. As a matter of fact, such a thing would be illegal and revolutionary, so basically you're talking about Treason.

You won't get any respect unless you learn how to debate.

You can't even punctuate a sentence.

And still you haven't posed one shred of evidence, that your illegal treasonous ideas would be palatable or justifiable, or even better than our form of government.

Grow up.

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My husband can eliminate anything within 200 yards. My daughter is deadly with her bow.

I have my own weapon. And I can use it.

Safely use your weapons talk is crap.

If it comes to it we will all point and shoot.

No one will be touching them (other than practice) until the time comes.

Oh, this panic buying is going to breed a bunch of irresponsible gun owners has to end.
That is the tactic they are using.

The 2nd amendment does not state that we must be proficient with a weapon, only that we have the right to it.

People should know how to use a firearm. Truth is, most people would only use them at point blank range.

They will practice is YOU teach them. I bet you have friends and family members who could benefit from some training from you. Most gun owners who don't practice, do it because they feel bad asking for help. Volunteer it.

They're irresponsible because they're not practicing.

Yeah, people can shoot from the hip and maybe kill someone, but maybe the other person gets off a shot too because of placement.

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Force

Are our lives or liberty or rights or freedoms or property or even our beliefs guaranteed the right to exist by a piece of paper or words?
- No.
The Constitution is only a contract, and as any contract can be broken by those it applies to.



Let me discuss a fundamental fact that too many of us are consciously unaware of -->

The ONLY thing that guarantees anything you THINK you have rights to in this world is:
Force or the threat of force by someone or some group,
- in defense against anyone/group that would try to take it away from you.

The force can violent or nonviolent, but must be a force capable of inflicting significant enough harm or threat of harm to succeed over the adversary.

This is a fact that has always been, and always will be, a fact as long as humans exist on this planet.



Does the Constitution in and of itself guarantee your rights and freedoms?
Does God guarantee your rights and freedoms?
Is the property you own guaranteed by your deed alone?
Is the vehicle you own guaranteed by the title you hold in your hand?
Does anyone's words or writing guarantee anything you hold dear- your life, your property, your right to your children, your liberty, anything?
- No.

There is only one fact of life that guarantees ANYTHING that you think you have 'right' to.

The ONLY thing that guarantees anything you THINK you have rights to in this world is force or the threat of force by someone or some group in protection of that...

... from those that would try to take it away from you.

Force/violence or threat of force/violence can be by individuals, or by groups. Government, military, police, militias, gangs, individual citizens. The only requirement is the ability to use force or the threat of its use against uncooperative adversaries.

For example, the 'rights and freedoms' of our Constitution are ONLY guaranteed by those that would fight for it with violence/force or threat of violence/force- the military and police primarily at this point, but other groups and individuals as well. The Constitution is only as good as those who have agreed upon it and are willing to fight, with violence or threat of violence, or force or threat of force, for it. But if our government "went bad" and the Constitution was declared no longer in effect, it could simply happen at that point. If some group with enough power to reenforce it with force/violence or threat of force/violence acted in order to protect it and was successful, our Constitution would survive. Would the military and law enforcement do that, or would they support the new government and its decisions? Would the people have to act deliberately and coordinated in some manner, violent or nonviolent? Only God knows. That is just one example out of a million.

The examples include everything that you THINK you have rights to, including your life, your liberty, your property, your children, etc.

Your property is only as much yours as that which is backed by your willingness to fight for it, or by those willing to fight for it on your behalf, with force/violence or threat of force/violence, from those that would try to take it away.

Your life is only as much yours as that which is backed by your willingness to fight for it, or by those willing to fight for it on your behalf, with force/violence or threat of force/violence, from those that would try to take it away.

Your liberty is only as much yours as that which is backed by your willingness to fight for it, or by those willing to fight for it on your behalf, with force/violence or threat of force/violence, from those that would try to take it away.

Even your own conscious mind and freedom to think freely is only as much yours as that which is backed by your willingness to fight for it, or by those willing to fight for it on your behalf, with force/violence or threat of force/violence, from those that would try to take it away.


EVERYTHING you believe you possess is only guaranteed by violence/force or threat of violence/force against those who would take it away, by yourself, or by others acting on your behalf.

This is a fundamental fact that you must understand. This is a fundamental fact that very few understand.



Nothing about 'the world as you know it' can be taken for granted. DO NOT take the rights/freedoms/things/possessions you have and believe in for granted, or as an absolute truth that cannot be taken away, or as any inalienable things. Way too many Americans are doing this at this time.

NOTHING is ours unless we or someone else is willing and able to do whatever it takes to keep it.

Do you know the brand name? And when you say "cheap prices", exactly what is "cheap" in your view?

Thanks!

tried shopping for a gun online lately? i've been looking at handguns but everytime i think i found what i want it's out of stock EVERYWHERE! have not tried shopping for ammo, but it may be a problem if gun availability is anything to go by.