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IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! I posted info re Sen Ball's bill, which he will introduce today, on the other thread as well Thread: BREAKING: You knew it was bound to happen. Police investigating first robbery attempt from gun owner map published online by Journal News He's the NY Senator beleves the privacy of legal gun owners, amongst others, should be protected This case just gives him the needed support Worse, the victim of this burglary is a man in his 70s That irresponsible editor and journalist have endangered the home, property and life of a law abiding senior citizen This is wrong If you live in NY, and you think this kind of malicious journalism must be stopped, give him your support Sen Ball makes a good point that not only is that newspaper's map endangering private citizens, but also active and retired LEOs, nevermind women who have been victims of domestic violence and may have bought a gun for self defense. Many women have been murdered by their ex's, and the police are rarely there when they need them... Did it ever occur to those boneheads that perhaps some of these people were trying to keep their addresses hidden so that they couldn't be threatened at their new homes...? I've heard of women who had to move several states away, and keep all their data private, in order to escape a murderously angry or jealous ex husband Below is NYS Sen. Greg Ball’s press release. Even if this story is proven to have nothing to do with the gun map, it is an example of “what could be,” Senator Ball points out. White Plains Police said one suspect has been apprehended and at least one other is still at large. PRESS RELEASE FROM GREG BALL’S OFFICE Brewster, N.Y. – 1/13/2013 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) announced that a burglary has been reported on Davis Ave. in White Plains, New York that evidently ties into The Journal News gun maps. It is reported that the burglar used The Journal News’ interactive gun map to target a home included on the map. Luckily the gun was locked up and no one was hurt. “The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs. If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens. Former convicts have already testified to the usefulness of the asinine Journal News ‘gun maps’ yet the reckless editors are evidently willing to roll the dice, gambling with the lives of innocent local homeowners,” said Senator Greg Ball. Tomorrow, Senator Ball will be publicly unveiling three separate pieces of legislation, all with bipartisan support, among them (S2132), to protect the privacy rights of ordinary citizens; including: law enforcement personnel, victims of domestic violence and private citizens. Let it be clear however, that under Ball’s legislation that has garnered bipartisan kudos and support, law enforcement and all related agencies would continue to have full access to permit information. Senate bill (S2132) would protect lawful gun owners, including thousands of retired and active law enforcement and victim of domestic violence survivors, from having their information publicly disclosed. “The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. [link to www.rocklandtimes.com] Last Edited by IssueX on 01/14/2013 08:02 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32179466 Switzerland 01/14/2013 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! Call Journal news and congratulate them for putting peoples lives in jeopardy for their 'Progressive' cause: [link to christopherfountain.wordpress.com] [link to christopherfountain.wordpress.com] |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! from OP's post: “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley. lol looks like they just poked a stick into a real hornet's nest let the lawsuits begin |
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IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! the problem is, that they went for the gun owner's home instead, not his unarmed neighbor (who by the way, is quoted as saying he doesn't care if his neighbor has a gun in his house) Neighbor John Mascia said he thought the gun permit database should not have been published. "I could [not] care less what they have in their home," Mascia said. [link to newyork.newsday.com] So if his neighbor didn't care, why is this of such interest to the busybodies on the Journal News editorial staff? |
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IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! It not only tells criminals where the guns are but also where the guns are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31787811 yes, but the problem is that guns are valuable, especially on the black market after a ban, they will be even more so this is as irresponsible as printing a map of people who recently purchased gold coins or diamonds |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 01/14/2013 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! It not only tells criminals where the guns are but also where the guns are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31787811 yes, but the problem is that guns are valuable, especially on the black market after a ban, they will be even more so this is as irresponsible as printing a map of people who recently purchased gold coins or diamonds This. Especially when they are seeing guns flying off the shelves, they may think it's better to try and rob someone known to have a gun than go to the house next door who may or may not have anything as valuable. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23078074 United States 01/14/2013 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! from OP's post: Quoting: IssueX “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley. lol looks like they just poked a stick into a real hornet's nest let the lawsuits begin Why only "their" members? Doesn't the rest of the law abiding public matter? |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! from OP's post: Quoting: IssueX “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley. lol looks like they just poked a stick into a real hornet's nest let the lawsuits begin Why only "their" members? Doesn't the rest of the law abiding public matter? Of course everyone's right to privacy should be protected, and we all know that some police abuse their privileges however, whether or not you like the police, they WILL fight back...I didn't create that reaction, the Journal News did when it provoked them And as for the police or retired officers being at greater risk, that doesn't really take much thought, does it? These are people who have arrested and sentenced violent individauls who may be looking for revenge As one poster wrote on another news site: There are two classes of "outted" permit holders who are really peeved: o jail guards in the counties covered by Journal News are getting calls at home by inmates who now know where they live, and o women under death threat who have moved and gotten pistol permits are afraid their stalkers are just a mouse click away. I am especially angry about the women whose names and addresses may have been outed |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 01/14/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! from OP's post: Quoting: IssueX “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley. lol looks like they just poked a stick into a real hornet's nest let the lawsuits begin Why only "their" members? Doesn't the rest of the law abiding public matter? I guess you didn't read any of my other posts I think this is as irresponsible as posting the names of medical marijuana users, or people who have legal permission to take morphine as a result of diagnosed pain it is a map of what to steal however, the police union have the clout to make this paper stop and in addition, pull their irresponsible map if that's what it takes, then everyone benefits I just found this on the site of the retired police officer's site: [link to www.wcragroup.com] Many retired law enforcement officer reside in Putnam County and when they retire they must apply for a gun permit like everyone else in order to carry a weapon. Should these law enforcement officers have their personal information and home addresses placed online readily available for criminals or ex-cons to view? What happens when one of these individuals find the address of retired law enforcement officers who they may have had an interaction with? Do they now target them and their family? The posting of this vitally private information online is dangerous and could cost someone their life because of the information being made public. The Journal News should be more responsible and cease any further action to have the names of law abiding citizens who happen to have a legal permit to own a gun placed online and in their newspaper. What purpose does it serve to post this information online and make public, what point is the Journal News trying to make? |
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Northman User ID: 1141977 Puerto Rico 01/14/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! Why would someone break in to a place where he knows the victim is armed? I thought guns were supposed to scare the criminals away. Also, why would someone post a sign saying his neighbor is unarmed and he/she is not? Last Edited by Northman on 01/14/2013 10:11 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29086850 United States 01/14/2013 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! Why would someone break in to a place where he knows the victim is armed? I thought guns were supposed to scare the criminals away. Also, why would someone post a sign saying his neighbor is unarmed and he/she is not? Quoting: Northman All criminals are mentally challenged; that's why they wind up in jail....or dead. You won't find many smart people in prison. They may have some kind of idea that the gun owner is too slow to resist. LOL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28172991 United States 01/14/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! We also just had an elderly couple beat and robbed by 4 out-of-towners. I consider the following as proof, because it happens every year. You can set your calendar by it. The season of euthanasia of the elderly is alive, well and kicking at Walmart (CorryPa) Last evening a cashier did a full-frontal sneeze on me; never covered her mouth, nor turned away, nor put her mouth to her shoulder, nor dip her head toward the floor; nothing. She is another one of those that thinks i should die because i receive "Entitlement". She readily buys into the government lie of "Entitlement". She doesnot know or care that I paid hard-earned cash money for that Social Security, and that my entire life of paychecks was slashed 15% (half visible; half invisible) for to go into Social Security, so that government could steal it, and leave me to live with the crumbs that fall off their lavish table full of succulent and exotic foods. Nor does she care that our money is spread around like candy to people that never paid into SS, nor does she care that it is not a tax, and that only the private sector paid for that SS, with their blood, sweat, tears and labor for years and years and years, what seemed like an eternity, before finally reaching retirement to take a long breath, and time to smell the roses. Biological warfare against the elderly is in full swing, compliments of Corporate Society. The seasonal onslaught has begun. Murder, she wrote. So ya’ll, beware, and protect your children. Best keep the children out of Walmart. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Saddletramp User ID: 739427 Puerto Rico 01/14/2013 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! I hope whoever got burglarized SUES THE FUCKING EYEBALLS OUT OF THAT NEWSPAPER!!! I hope he ends up owning it, then turns it into a trash collecting service... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States 01/14/2013 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! It not only tells criminals where the guns are but also where the guns are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31787811 The mayor in my small town in NY was on the list as a pistol permit holder, and suddenly now an obnoxious Democratic woman has just declared to run against him for mayor in November. What a surprise! I'm not all that thrilled with the mayor, but he's 100 times better than that woman. I guess she sees her chance because the incumbent is on the gun owner list, and because some Obama-voters got somehow registered in our town. Hope our mayor slaps her down in a landslide! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States 01/14/2013 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Attempted gun burglary tied to Journal News gun maps! Law enforcement puts newspaper "on notice"! Now that deer and holiday season is over, and everyone has spent all their money, itis euthanasia season of the elderly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28172991 We also just had an elderly couple beat and robbed by 4 out-of-towners. I consider the following as proof, because it happens every year. You can set your calendar by it. The season of euthanasia of the elderly is alive, well and kicking at Walmart (CorryPa) Last evening a cashier did a full-frontal sneeze on me; never covered her mouth, nor turned away, nor put her mouth to her shoulder, nor dip her head toward the floor; nothing. She is another one of those that thinks i should die because i receive "Entitlement". She readily buys into the government lie of "Entitlement". She doesnot know or care that I paid hard-earned cash money for that Social Security, and that my entire life of paychecks was slashed 15% (half visible; half invisible) for to go into Social Security, so that government could steal it, and leave me to live with the crumbs that fall off their lavish table full of succulent and exotic foods. Nor does she care that our money is spread around like candy to people that never paid into SS, nor does she care that it is not a tax, and that only the private sector paid for that SS, with their blood, sweat, tears and labor for years and years and years, what seemed like an eternity, before finally reaching retirement to take a long breath, and time to smell the roses. Biological warfare against the elderly is in full swing, compliments of Corporate Society. The seasonal onslaught has begun. Murder, she wrote. So ya’ll, beware, and protect your children. Best keep the children out of Walmart. [link to www.youtube.com] May you outlive that cashier! |
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