US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity | |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 01/21/2013 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity CHINA POISED TO PLAY DEBT CARD – FOR U.S. LAND NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the communist nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work? That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity. Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss. Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32712687 Germany 01/21/2013 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity CHINA POISED TO PLAY DEBT CARD – FOR U.S. LAND Quoting: DoorBert NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the communist nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work? That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity. Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss. Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] Well, thats what the USA has been doing in China for like 30 years no, i meean in the "free economic Zones..." |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 01/21/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity China: US stand on islands a 'betrayal' Veiled US warnings to Beijing not to challenge Japan's control of disputed islands encouraged Tokyo's "dangerously right-leaning" government and "betrayed" Washington's vow of neutrality, Chinese state media said Saturday. The comments came as Japan's coastguard said three Chinese government ships had entered Japanese territorial waters around the islands, known as the Senkaku in Japanese and the Diaoyu in Chinese. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday said the area around the islands in the East China Sea was under Japan's control and therefore protected under a US security treaty with Tokyo. [link to www.bangkokpost.com] |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 01/21/2013 05:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity China and Japan square up - The drums of war WATCH Chinese television these days and you might conclude that the outbreak of war with Japan over what it calls the Senkaku and China the Diaoyu islands is only a matter of time. You might well be right. [link to stratrisks.com] |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 01/21/2013 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity Show of Force: PLA Navy in live-fire attack drills in East China and South China seas Live fire by missile-carrying aircraft in East China and South China seas bare the sabre to neighbours and mark a shift in strategy [link to www.scmp.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16158284 United States 01/21/2013 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity There is no way the ChiComs are going to start an hot war against uncle sam nothing to see here folks, this garbage is getting media attention to advance certain people's political careers, but there is no way an actual war is going to come of this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30927848 United States 01/21/2013 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity Just another piece of the puzzle coming together in world tensions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26447781 Inevitable and all orchestrated. Any bets on when a full blown world war will break out? um... the entire world is pretty much already at war. Its not going to be the romantic made for TV war you think. we are already at war with currency, debt, "terrorism", human rights, natural resources.. so on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32607037 Japan 01/21/2013 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity CHINA POISED TO PLAY DEBT CARD – FOR U.S. LAND Quoting: DoorBert NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the communist nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work? That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity. Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss. Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] Sounds like something the Marxist US president Barack Hussein would love. Selling out the US lands to the freaking Chinese. They'll move a couple hundred million of their people over to the US. It's just a drop in the bucket for their huge population but it would overwhelm US culture. Suddenly your country's not even yours anymore, it's an outpost of China. Barry Obama would be all over that shit, as long as he gets to borrow more money from China pay for welfare and free obama phones. You can tell he doesn't even love America, in fact he probably hates it and would welcome a flood of even more immigrants. If I were you I'd be very concerned, America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32706657 United Kingdom 01/21/2013 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity If we were to wipe out India and China wouldn't that help the food shortages................ Nah only playing I say Leave them to it we have Nkes they target us they get nuked M.A.D and and I say the world should be ran for the people and by the people Fuck the Governments what will they do if we said Fuck you and didn't go by the banking system banked our own money and took control of our own lives |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 01/21/2013 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity China's Buying A Fleet Of Russian Bombers Perfect For Taking On The US Navy [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 01/21/2013 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity While China's growing naval power grabs headlines, Japan's evolving navy might just be the real story. [link to thediplomat.com] |
ronny forgeron User ID: 29648191 Netherlands 01/21/2013 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity This is an American made problem. The islands were taken after the Japanese victory over China in 1894, and returned to the ROC (KuoMinTang) in 1945 together with Taiwan. The US excercised control as China was in a civil war, the ROC decided to give the islands to the US as a thank you for the US support.When US gave back Okinawa to Japan, they gave these islands too.... The PRC protested to no avail. In the chinese culture of face saving and loss, it is inevitable Jpan has to hand back the islands or face war in the long run. China doesn't trust Japan anyway and suspects them of preparing for nuclear, something the new Japanese restauration party is confirming in its message that thanks to the Japanese nuclear power plants Japan will be able to build nuclear weapons within a few weeks. Now I live part of the year in China, all my chinese friends tell me over a year already there will be some war over some islands .. |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 01/21/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity The Chinese Foreign Ministry expressed its displeasure a day after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton assured Tokyo of American support for its territorial rights and warned China against any unilateral action in the dispute. On Friday, Clinton in a press conference meeting with the Japanese Foreign Minister did not mention China directly but said she wanted the dispute to be resolved peacefully. "Although the United States does not take a position on the ultimate sovereignty of the islands, we acknowledge they are under the administration of Japan," Clinton said, adding "we oppose any unilateral actions that would seek to undermine Japanese administration, and we urge all parties to take steps to prevent incidents and manage disagreements through peaceful means." China is "strongly dissatisfied with and resolutely opposes" the comments made by Clinton, Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in a statement. [link to rt.com] |
ACDC User ID: 433433 Australia 01/21/2013 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity This will be a replay of the 1996 tensions with Taiwan and its elections. Uncle Sam will move 3 fleets into place while the Chinese will be all bluster and sword waving as they do this. But the Chinese will back off. They know what side their bread is buttered on for now. Maybe in 20 years time they'll challenge. They are no where near ready to enter into any "exchanges". The Chinese are not that stupid... for now... |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 21713566 United States 01/21/2013 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity This is also correlated to the happenings in Africa. China is moving in position to take lead as THE superpower & make a grab for resources. Unlike Westerners, the Chinese are long term planners & thinkers, this has been in the works for many decades. Make no mistake, it is well planned and they will play like a chess master as our clueless executive branch parties away. Only when Americans are boxed into check mate will they ascertain the dire position we find ourselves in. Morning, Doorbert!!! Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32694722 United States 01/21/2013 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity CHINA POISED TO PLAY DEBT CARD – FOR U.S. LAND Quoting: DoorBert NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the communist nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work? That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity. Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss. Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] Sounds like something the Marxist US president Barack Hussein would love. Selling out the US lands to the freaking Chinese. They'll move a couple hundred million of their people over to the US. It's just a drop in the bucket for their huge population but it would overwhelm US culture. Suddenly your country's not even yours anymore, it's an outpost of China. Barry Obama would be all over that shit, as long as he gets to borrow more money from China pay for welfare and free obama phones. You can tell he doesn't even love America, in fact he probably hates it and would welcome a flood of even more immigrants. If I were you I'd be very concerned, America. And this is only one reason that the Chi-Coms want United States citizens to disarm. |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 30664081 Japan 01/21/2013 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: US Sides with Japan on Disputed Islands: Beijing says its a betrayal, orders troops combat ready, could cash in on US debt for equity CHINA POISED TO PLAY DEBT CARD – FOR U.S. LAND Quoting: DoorBert NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the communist nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work? That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity. Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss. Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] Sounds like something the Marxist US president Barack Hussein would love. Selling out the US lands to the freaking Chinese. They'll move a couple hundred million of their people over to the US. It's just a drop in the bucket for their huge population but it would overwhelm US culture. Suddenly your country's not even yours anymore, it's an outpost of China. Barry Obama would be all over that shit, as long as he gets to borrow more money from China pay for welfare and free obama phones. You can tell he doesn't even love America, in fact he probably hates it and would welcome a flood of even more immigrants. If I were you I'd be very concerned, America. Welfare & free Obama phones will come to a screaming halt if China moves in. Those people will go to work in their assigned jobs or will face the alternative of forced labor in remote camps on the Chinese mainland. Only a few will cause trouble when word gets out that troublemakers disappear -- forever. All the Socialist/Communist fantasy nuts in this country had better wake up. Those societies are not utopic, sit on you ass & get a check places. The entitlement crowd will either get with the program or get eliminated. Sorry, a tad off topic, but I need to rant this morning. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |