I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I want to point this thread is significant:
Thread: Jesus appears in room of a former Hindu

Why?

If there was rape incident, and let's say, there was only one witness who saw this. You would state, their testimony is questionable.

But,

Why if there were 50 witnesses, and they all witnessed the raped, it now becomes harder to easily dismiss their testimonies.

Now, these witnesses, not only witness the rape, but they describe a highly specific detail of the rapist, which is he wore a yellow baseball cap.

This makes it even more difficult, to merely dismiss, and say they were lying.

Now going back to the thread, there's multiple people who not only saw Jesus, during NDEs, but also when they were fully awake.

Now one must ask, where's all the testimonies, of people seeing other prophets, such as Muhammad, Buddha, Krishna, Ra, etc, when they were fully awake?

Also, like the witnesses, who all described a very specific detail, the yellow baseball cap, there's a highly specific detail of Jesus that they saw. In many paintings and depictions, you'll see Jesus with brown eyes. But, in nearly all cases where people saw Jesus, they stated he had blue eyes.

Also if one researches, the very best veridical heaven cases, this again, is crucial since it rules out the subconscious and imagination. Two separate individuals, stated, of all the countless paintings, and depictions, only one actually looks like him. Both stated, the exact same painting, which was done by a little girl, who states, she has visions of heaven and Jesus. And both of these people, also state, Jesus's eyes are blue.

Yes, you will have frauds like Marjo, but they don't reflect the whole.

You also have some horrible atheists, but these atheists, likewise, don't represent all atheists.

If you're a true seeker, be willing to not only seek evidence to prove, but importantly seek evidence to disprove.

Would a judge, state, all these 50 witnesses, who saw the rapist, with yellow baseball cap, are automatic liars, because they don't support my views?

Here's a tip, if you're a true seeker. Nearly all people, will either completely dismiss, or reject information without sufficient evidence. If there's not sufficient evidence to reject or accept, be willing to admit you currently don't know.

Most people, due to their egos, don't like to say, they don't know. When you're humble and willing to admit you don't know, this now allows you to seek more evidence, to support or disprove claims. Which allows you to truly learn even more.

On the other extreme, if you reject or accept info, without evidence, your search can literally last a few seconds. You can state, out of all these theories, I reject nearly all of them, on no basis whatsoever, simply because they don't fit with any of my current views. If one does this, I must also question, the motive of someone who states, they're a true seeker, and if they're only trying secretly persuade others to their own views.

Not only is there evidence that Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed, but there's evidence of the supernatural. The millions of large hail size brimstone / sulphur, embedded vertically downwards, cover this area.

The brimstones, were taken to be examined an analyzed at a lab. It was discovered, it's made of a content, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally in the world, or even volcanoes. Nor does it contain, elements, that are found in meteors.

Thread: Proof fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorrah!

For even more evidence of not only the Bible, but the supernatural, I also suggest this:


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In Exodus 15:27 and Numbers 33:9, during the travel to Mount Sinai, Moses noted, “there were twelve wells of water."

The video shows not only these 12 wells, but also Mt. Sinai, and much much more.

Exodus 19:18 Now the Bible stated, Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

Now at this same location with 12 wells, and Mt. Sinai, there's a massive black scorch (appears to have been left by fire), at the top of the mountain.

At this location, the Bible stated, that Moses split a massive rock, where water came forth. In the vid, at this same location, there's a massive boulder, that's been split, and you see sediments, that shows water came from the boulder. And there's much more, showing evidence of not only the Bible, but also God's supernatural works.

Atheism Rejects your Peverted fake God, DEAL WITH IT!

So what perverted fake god does it accept...

Angey atheists are the worst... they are pissed that they have no faith...

Such deductive reasoning! Boy, you god adorers are a right joke.
You might then say that we're pissed at the muslims too. We're not.

We actually don't give a flying circus of a fuck which god you choose to adore as long as it doesn't interfere with us.
Unfortunately the muslim god does, not because he gets involved but because his adherent's are a bunch of slimy, murderous and barbaric fucks.

And the christian god does too by way of his sheep. When people in authority base their actions on the 'laws' of an archaic and as yet, unproven deity then it does interfere with me.

It is this, and only this that ticks me off. I don't want to have to see a dead dude on a plank and have to explain to my six year old that it's all a barbaric myth. Kids don,t need to see that bleeding, incompetent and pallid figure hanging there.

If there were gallows poles on every block someone would have something to say.
And if I'd put them there because my imaginary spirit buddy had been hanged back in the day, I'm almost certain there'd still be an outcry against such 'devices of death and suffering' being openly displayed where children will be privy to them.

Religion...

could wear an iron maiden around your neck in protest ha ha

You obviously don't know what an iron maiden is. It was a torture device that a person was put inside of.

One day an atheist decided to take a short cut in the woods going home. It was a very pretty day; birds were singing and flying, the brook was burbling, and wild flowers were everywhere. Just then he saw the bushes move. It was a bear. He ran as fast as he could and faster still. Then he
tripped and fell on a log. By then the bear was right over him about to strike. The atheist yelled out"Oh my God." Just then the birds froze, suspended in mid-air, the brook stopped burbling, and it got quiet. Then God showed up and said "Tell me, why should I save you? You teach people to not believe in Me." Then the atheist yelled out "well, at least make the bear a christian." Then God said "Oh, all right." Then the birds were flying again and the brook was burbling. The bear was about to strike then stopped, stood up on his hinds, bowed his head and said "Lord, I thank Thee for this food
I'm about to eat."

Let me just state something again. I don't have a problem with christians, just individuals based on their actions like I would anyone else. I meant no offence in my reply, even when I still believe I found the idea of a torture device as a symbol funny.

There is nothing humorous about torture.
[link to markmoore.org]
"Vital Stats and Facts about Persecution of Christians
1.163,000 Christians die every year for their faith. Half of all the Christians who have ever died for their faith did so in this century alone, some 35 million! 15,000,000 of
these were Orthodox or Catholic Christians who died under the Soviet regime between 1917 and 1980, primarily in prison camps.
2.Persecution tends to rise with evangelistic effectiveness.
3.The top ten persecuting countries are
: Burma/Myanmar, China, Egypt, Iran, Laos,
North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia,
Sudan(2 million since 1985), Vietnam.
4.After fierce lobbying, American legislators agreed to levy punishments ranging from diplomatic protests to economic sanctions against cou ntries that persistently persecute Christians and other religious minorities.
5.Those killed for their faith (by millions): Christians, 70; Muslims, 70; Hindus; 11,Jews, 9; Buddhists, 4; Sikhs, 2; Baha’is, 1 and all others com bined, 5; T otal = 169 (the
numbers don’t add up because of rounding up to millions).

That is a harsh reality that anyone should have sympathy with. Certainly nothing that I'd find funny. I knew the stats were high, but higher than I remembered.
I used to find it funny that we used the cross as a symbol for the Messiah, when actually it was the plan of the enemy.
And not funny in a ha ha way. Weird. I never wore a cross, but good on thoughs that do.

Off topic, did Jesus/ Yeshua/ Yehoshua/ Yehushuwa break the sabbath?

Of course wearing a cross, especially a crucifix was considered abhorrant by Protestants, for they felt that it emphasized death and not ressurection. Personally I like both, for they remind me of Yeshua sacrfice for my sins. I don't focus on the crucifiction, for Yeshua is not eternally on the cross, but was victorious over the cross.

A lot of people use guilt to induce belief and of course that won't work. It's a bad form of witness and persuasion.

The real heart of Yeshua's message is about feeding the hungry, healing the sick, caring for the poor, ministering to those in prison, however those thing manifest. It's not about conversion. If Christians spent 90% of their time on those things and only 10% on the other, then what a beautiful world it would be.

Yeshua said that the Sabbath was made for Man. Now this is confusing, but the new day begins at sundown, not sunrise.
Remember in Genesis, "There was evening, there was morning, a new day."

People would rush to get all of their work done so they could rest to begin the new Sabbath. This meant there were all kinds of rules and more rules about what you could do on the Sabbath.

Then the Pharisees, being the educated priests, they'd spent all that time meditating upon Law. But the issue was there was already 631 laws. They were making it more difficult for Man. They heaped up burdens like, if a cow got lost, then the owner couldn't go rescue it, and then the loss of a cow or goat would surely severely hurt the finances of that family as well as be terribly cruel. Or even healing wasn't allowed. Or last minute gathering of grain.

Most Christians worship on Sunday morning, but a devout Jew will celebrate Friday evening. Which is the Sabbath? Does it matter? I don't know. I know we need to keep it holy. What if a doctor works on Sunday morning? Is she breaking the Sabbath? Hardly. Is the preacher working on Sunday breaking the Sabbath?

I have read up on prophecies. Is there one in particular that I should look up?

I think you should read these:
[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

[link to www.medjugorje.com]

The sabbath is to be followed the same as the Torah commanded. Yeshua eplains in more detail on it.
So certain conditions are fine. But why do people now forget the sabbath? Even though it's in the ten commandments and in fact was there before that in genesis.
Why was it decided that the sabbath be changed to sunday against gods command? Who decided it should change maybe a more important question.

The sabbath is to be followed the same as the Torah commanded. Yeshua eplains in more detail on it.
So certain conditions are fine. But why do people now forget the sabbath? Even though it's in the ten commandments and in fact was there before that in genesis.
Why was it decided that the sabbath be changed to sunday against gods command? Who decided it should change maybe a more important question.

If you feel strongly about keeping the Sabbath, I would say don't worry about what others do, if they keep that day holy or not, but you personally make that time holy for God.

I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.

Do any of you ask yourselves why we even debate the existence of a Creator? The fact that this is a question on our minds begs the question of "why we desire to know the answer to this question". Where there exists a desire there first existed a need. A purely materialistic naturalistic existence would never spawn the desire to ask the question "who or what created us" and "what is our purpose"? We ask these questions because we are meant to seek the answers. In essence, our question about "who created us" helps to prove the existence of a Creator.

Do any of you ask yourselves why we even debate the existence of a Creator? The fact that this is a question on our minds begs the question of "why we desire to know the answer to this question". Where there exists a desire there first existed a need. A purely materialistic naturalistic existence would never spawn the desire to ask the question "who or what created us" and "what is our purpose"? We ask these questions because we are meant to seek the answers. In essence, our question about "who created us" helps to prove the existence of a Creator.