Tennessee proposes welfare reform?

You're right, you shouldn't be drug tested to work, what you do on your time is your business...

What would be funny is if this government actually wanted to promote any of the stuff you said....that would seriously be a shocker....

There is a program in my state, Private Industry Council. You can get free training and the gov will pay for it. They look for areas of growth, and pay for your training. It's a great program, but has its abuses as well. For instance, there were a few people I met in training, who had NO intention of getting a job, and just went from one training program to another in order to keep their welfare and food stamp benefits, and not have to pay back their student loans.

People will play the system until they ruin it for those who actually do what they're supposed to do.

Shill...
No ...
taxpayer here, who sees where the assistance money goes...and it's not to feed their kids or themselves. Not all, but enough using the funds for drugs and alcohol.

My guess is Aruba doesn't qualify you to form opinions about Tennessee culture...

Last Edited by littlemiracles on 01/29/2013 05:28 PM

Tie the funding to each child attending school. If the children skip school, the parent loses their entire welfare until the child attends school. And of course those who will say why punish the entire family for one child. I say tough shit. Remember what a blanket party is-- that kid will learn. That is what a family unit is supposed to do-- keep the family together not dysfunctional

It did for me and my family.....I knew I could not make much more than minimum wage....had a little one and a husband who couldn't work. They were willing to pay for me to get an associates degree, but I needed something that would get me off of welfare quicker, so they fast-tracked me in a business college and I got an accounting diploma after 9 months......got my first job before I even completed the program.....was completely off of welfare by the end of the first year of my full-time job....

It was a God-send.

Oh - and, by the way....by the end of the second year, I was a homeowner, had a nice car and was putting my child through private school.....so - yeah....for me, the program was a blessing!!!!

Last Edited by Dried Up Hag on 01/29/2013 05:37 PM

You're right, I've seen this too. It happens in EVERY state, so multiply what you're seeing by 50 and imagine all the money wasted on those people that are "playing the game."

I, for one, am SICK of paying for that $**t!

What I see is a bunch of dead teachers because they were "responsible" for the welfare family losing their welfare check.

WooHoo, Madame! This is one of the most positive posts *\0/*

I personally knew several women who participated in the "Alexandria Works" welfare-to-work program in Alexandria, Va. They ALL said how it was the first time they felt good about themselves. Felt a sense of accomplishment in not being on welfare.

If memory serves me correctly, there were factions who lobbied that the w2w program was discriminatory toward the women on welfare...forcing them to work for their assistance. A modern form of slavery. Sad they lobbied successfully and the program was phased out.

Are you serious? The world is close to a finacial collapse and you're questioning welfare reform? Maybe start with a two parent family where one must work or voluneer and parent and the other has to at least parent and house/life manage.

Being on welfare, for me, was an extremely humiliating experience......I'd worked all my life, just about. From the time I was 12 yrs. old, I'd been making money....

So - my stint on welfare was only for a year or so....but it was one of the worst years of my life, in a lot of ways.

About five years later, I hit another BIG financial bump.....I got two more jobs, (on top of my full-time one), to keep afloat...just to stay off the state dole.....Luckily, my other two jobs allowed me to bring my child with me.......

Did it work?


It did for me and my family.....I knew I could not make much more than minimum wage....had a little one and a husband who couldn't work. They were willing to pay for me to get an associates degree, but I needed something that would get me off of welfare quicker, so they fast-tracked me in a business college and I got an accounting diploma after 9 months......got my first job before I even completed the program.....was completely off of welfare by the end of the first year of my full-time job....

It was a God-send.

Oh - and, by the way....by the end of the second year, I was a homeowner, had a nice car and was putting my child through private school.....so - yeah....for me, the program was a blessing!!!!


WooHoo, Madame! This is one of the most positive posts *\0/*

I personally knew several women who participated in the "Alexandria Works" welfare-to-work program in Alexandria, Va. They ALL said how it was the first time they felt good about themselves. Felt a sense of accomplishment in not being on welfare.

If memory serves me correctly, there were factions who lobbied that the w2w program was discriminatory toward the women on welfare...forcing them to work for their assistance. A modern form of slavery. Sad they lobbied successfully and the program was phased out.



No one wants to live in a powerless dependent state. Watch out for those whose actions assist in powerlessness and dependency. Personal power as above overcomes; you don't need anyone or anything else. Tony Robbins made a career out of speaking on the same subject.

I personally AM worried about the homeless family that smokes pot! Because what are those kids going to do? They will "ape" their parents - and then THEY will become the "homeless" statistic - very rarely does a child raised in this type of environment break out of the "norm."

For the person above you... You know, that really ticks me off! One because I have a small business that makes about $50,000.00 a year (which goes right back into employment as I'm the sole employee) and guess what my taxes are? 30%!!! Just my business - my personal taxes at 15% - so 45% of what I earn goes back to "Big Daddy Government" only to be dispersed to many people who CAN work but want to LIVE off the gov't! I have medical problems, but I still work - I have physical challenges, but I still work! It all boils down to "we do what we want to do" and about 40 to 50% of those on welfare shouldn't be there! Believe me, 25 years ago I had to go on food stamps to have food in my house - but that was until I found a job - i don't care if you work at McDonalds - at least you have a job and can have some self - respect! So you are dang straight that I get upset when I hear about welfare people on drugs!

And you know what? Those who have Big Businesses and make a lot of money? They started out small and worked their way up (Like Walgreens or Walmart) Don't dis someone and want the gov't to take more from them because they had a dream and fulfilled it! That's idiotic!

Okay I'm done.

~ Haarpy

So if you have stupid kids you get no money. Makes no sense at all. If the rich are not penalized for stupid kids than either should the poor. I know some here will disagree because some elitist snobs lurk here but screw you. I say if your kid is failing give them a tutor and send them to a private school. The same thing the rich have.

Dried up Hag, you are one of the very rare people who NEEDED the assistance as it was designed. Welfare was originally designed & implemented for short-term mediation. To assist people during a "crisis".

When my children were very young, I needed help, too. LOL, minimum wage was somewhere around $1.80/hour and my husband was making $2.00/hour. (This was during the oil embargo & prices of everything sky rocketed.) We received WIC which really helped. Then I switched to SHARE which was a NGO co-op. Felt so relieved being able to "work" and be a contributing member of the co-op.

Nowadays it seems as if many welfare recipients consider it their "work" and their "paycheck". And their children are approaching it the same way.

Wish there really was a way to "break the chains" and "liberate their minds". Maybe tieing long-term recipients families to school productivity is an alternative.

Did the working while collecting benefits. Not for long because was not getting help that long. they had me do the same work highway dept workers do except they decided my efforts were worth minimum wage and regular employees was worth double that. learned no special skills. That makes it a slave program in my book.

Yes, and then they ride on those obnoxious things every weekend while I toil away. It is very, very frustrating to work hard and watch others not work and do better than you do, although, I will say that most whites round here on 'the dole' don't seem to be doing near as well as the blacks from the town I just moved from.
Have ya'll ever heard of the BLUE checK? The parents get their kids to act up in school like they are crazy, so they can get the BLUE check, more money in the pockets for the 'special' kid. Seriously, I know some 'professionals' who have to dole it out to them.

I'm not sure WHAT the answer is.......I once used to work at a food pantry.....a block away from housing projects. Every month, after we got the USDA commodities delivered, people from the projects would be lined up down the street to get their food....

Then one day, a little boy showed up at my door and said that his grandma had gotten a box of cakemix from the pantry the previous day and she had sent him down to ask me if I could find a can of frosting to go with it.

This kid was like 7 or 8 years old....

Here's some welfare reform for ya. You get $1 an hour to clean latrines, remove graffiti and plant gardens to clean up your POS neighborhoods.

Welfare roles would drop and our cities would clean up some. Any psycho-lib. who can't understand the merit of this should be deported to someplace more ideologically suitable to them, like North Korea.

BTW, sTTsTTT....what is a NGO co-op?

Someone has to be working in those families that's why it's called earned income credit.

ok , how about requiring social workers to do random home welfare checks.

With stiff requirements for the home , if you are on welfare.

Either way drug test or home welfare checks will be a requirement of the contract of being on welfare.

If you never make a deal with the state , because you want free shit , then you wont have to worry about either.

welfare is not a program . It is a contract that the party receiving the welfare must honor.The state needs stipulation to the deal.Otherwise its a waste of money.

Welfare runs out every so often when the contract is up . Thus any new requirements to a contract can be made.

That's why people sign the papers to receive welfare.

On renewal of service you either agree to the terms or go home crying.

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I think they should pay for up to 3 children only unless it is a multiple birth.

what if they have autism,what about that?

Good point...

I say once is enough for them to know they cant afford them.

I'd like to know who posted this in my Karma...


1/29/2013 Un-American. Get out of my country!


Get balls and tell me who you are and why?

whay if they were middle class but fell on hard times?

Dried up Hag, NGO is Non-Government Organisation, a nonprofit or a charity org.

I didn't mean to laugh, but your "frosting experience" was priceless. If there was confectioners sugar and butter or margarine in the commodities box...well there's the frosting!

Sigh, this does tie in to education. Home Economics courses would have provided the woman with basic skill sets. She would have learned how to prepare a cake from flour, sugar, butter, eggs at least.

The saddest thing is, many people on welfare are not "stupid". They know exactly what they are doing and glorify themselves as deserving, castigating & denigrating the people who support them.