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There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses.
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it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser.
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Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom?

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Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result.
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Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation.
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Re: Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea!
So since I make 15 a hour, that means all those years I worked my ass off to get there gets flushed down the toilet. I would love a 3 dollar a hour raise that's a extra 120 bucks
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There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses.
 Quoting: krosty


it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser.
 Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq.


Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom?

Godlike Productions is becoming Reactionary Productions.
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LOL no one is proposing to pay people NOTHING stop distorting the conversation, commie
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Re: Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea!
Oh I think it is great also!! When the cost if labor goes up, the cost of goods goes up with it....and hay, let's face it, some us can still afford our own food and bills.. Maybe just barley, but we are doing it... It is a great freaking idea to raise the cost of food and fuel, ya know, just to make sure that the few of us can't support ourselves...
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Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result.
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Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices.

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They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on.
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Far too many KOCH SUCKERS in the room for me.

Those that aren't paid scum, do your own research. These guys are fucking scumbags!
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$9 huh.... first off congress has to pass it. this sounds like a speech stunt to me. But lets say this goes into effect. Watch the employer figure out ways to get rid of dead wood and higher people with degrees.....
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$9 huh.... first off congress has to pass it. this sounds like a speech stunt to me. But lets say this goes into effect. Watch the employer figure out ways to get rid of dead wood and higher people with degrees.....
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hire.....duh
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Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27921992


Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on.
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yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right?
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Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on.
 Quoting: krosty


yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right?
 Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq.


Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything!
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Re: Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea!
This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people.
I think is the right thing to do.
What do you think trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065


How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me.
 Quoting: DeadBeacon




Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov):

- GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades.
- Industrial production rose 107%.
- Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales.
- It generated more than 5 million jobs.
- Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%.
- From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos.
- From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%.
- The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children.
- International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million.
- Tax revenue grew by almost 700%.
- In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%.
- In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%.
- In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt.
- In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina.
- In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%.
- From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system.
- The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America.
- From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%.
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Re: Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea!
It is a good thing, the only problem is the corporations will fire people to make up for the losses.

Our economy is stuck in a capitalistic catch22.

People don't spend money because they don't get paid enough. The government increases minimum wages to combat that. Then corporations fire people to equalize the wage increase to keep in line with revenue, because god forbid we lose a point this year, even though we have a chance for the potential of 5 more points next year with customers having increased wages. Then we're back at square one, people don't have jobs to spend money, corporations don't hire because no one is spending money.

As Admiral Akbar would say, "it's a trap."
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Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on.
 Quoting: krosty


yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right?
 Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq.


Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything!
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LOL "school"? what was the last book you read? 3 minutes
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This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people.
I think is the right thing to do.
What do you think trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065


How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me.
 Quoting: DeadBeacon




Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov):

- GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades.
- Industrial production rose 107%.
- Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales.
- It generated more than 5 million jobs.
- Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%.
- From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos.
- From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%.
- The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children.
- International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million.
- Tax revenue grew by almost 700%.
- In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%.
- In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%.
- In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt.
- In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina.
- In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%.
- From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system.
- The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America.
- From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%.
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clappa
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hmm never thought about that .. damn obama what a jerk he is
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and as food prices and taxes go up the government employees get raises so that they never feel the increases that the rest of us feel. it is only we who work in the private sector and don't have a taxpayer piggybank to dip into who it hurts...
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They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on.
 Quoting: krosty


yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right?
 Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq.


Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18834326


LOL "school"? what was the last book you read? 3 minutes
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times up asshole, you have nothing, you think your commie studies at uni prove you know everything. so go one, change the world.
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Re: Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea!
Back when I was a kid in 1980, minimum wage was $3.25. If you were a full-time employee (40 hours per week, 52 weeks a year) your annual salary was $6,968. The average household income was $17,000, so as a ratio the minimum wage earner made about 41% of that average household income.

Fast forward to 2012. Minimum wage of $7.25 for a full-time employee meant an annual salary of $15,080. The average household income was $50,000, so the ratio is 30%.

Now, we all know that the middle class has been losing ground, but think about the poorest workers - they are losing ground to the middle class even!

Some of you have your heads up your butts if you think those people don't deserve a raise. If you made the ratio equal to 1980, the minimum wage should be close to $10.

You all bitch about people doing nothing and collecting entitlements, but there isn't much other choice for the untrained worker. Let's at least give them an incentive to work.

You gripe about the rich getting richer on your backs but you want to boost yourselves on the backs of our poorest citizens. You are the same as the bankers and corporate CEOs but on a smaller scale - the intent is the identical - and that is to screw the little guy and collect more yourselves.
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Seems all the people without skills or education think this is their ticket out of poverty.

Your real ticket out of poverty is mentioned above, education and/or job skills to back up a good attendance record and good attitude towards work and other employees.

People will pay a good employee well because they are hard to find, shitty $9/hr employees are everywhere
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Back when I was a kid in 1980, minimum wage was $3.25. If you were a full-time employee (40 hours per week, 52 weeks a year) your annual salary was $6,968. The average household income was $17,000, so as a ratio the minimum wage earner made about 41% of that average household income.

Fast forward to 2012. Minimum wage of $7.25 for a full-time employee meant an annual salary of $15,080. The average household income was $50,000, so the ratio is 30%.

Now, we all know that the middle class has been losing ground, but think about the poorest workers - they are losing ground to the middle class even!

Some of you have your heads up your butts if you think those people don't deserve a raise. If you made the ratio equal to 1980, the minimum wage should be close to $10.

You all bitch about people doing nothing and collecting entitlements, but there isn't much other choice for the untrained worker. Let's at least give them an incentive to work.

You gripe about the rich getting richer on your backs but you want to boost yourselves on the backs of our poorest citizens. You are the same as the bankers and corporate CEOs but on a smaller scale - the intent is the identical - and that is to screw the little guy and collect more yourselves.
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no one is making min wage for ever unless they are seriously disabled. this is a false narrative, that people are routinely struggling to raise families on min wage. most move up, get better jobs
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There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses.
 Quoting: krosty


it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser.
 Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq.


Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom?

 Quoting: krosty


You must be aware of some really fucking hideous employer.

Who is it? Who is this beast who forces his employees to work at gunpoint for slave wages the employees don't agree to?
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I think I saw her gulag on google.
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australias minimum wage is $16. AND our dollar is stronger than yours.

$9 ? hahahaha AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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they will raise gas and groceries to match it...

you may be making 9 dollars an hour... but you might as well be making the same as you are now...

its an endless cycle of illusion...

"yay i make more money!
Damn milk costs 8 bucks a gallon now!"

plus...

9 bucks an hour means more taxes will come out of your check...

pushing you into a higher income bracket than you are now...

its a way to fuck you while you cheer it on
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sick cycle isn't it?
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That only means the maximum wage must have gone up!!
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This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people.
I think is the right thing to do.
What do you think trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065


How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me.
 Quoting: DeadBeacon




Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov):

- GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades.
- Industrial production rose 107%.
- Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales.
- It generated more than 5 million jobs.
- Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%.
- From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos.
- From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%.
- The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children.
- International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million.
- Tax revenue grew by almost 700%.
- In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%.
- In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%.
- In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt.
- In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina.
- In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%.
- From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system.
- The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America.
- From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065



I'll say it again...the markets will determine the fate of of government intervention, not government intervening in the market.

Argentina freezes prices to break inflation spiral



[link to www.myfoxny.com]

.....Polls show Argentines worry most about inflation, which private economists estimate could reach 30 percent this year.......





It's comin'.

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no one is making min wage for ever unless they are seriously disabled. this is a false narrative, that people are routinely struggling to raise families on min wage. most move up, get better jobs
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Except, you know, Obamaphonies.
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right, the perpetually dependent. they are in this scenario of being forever controlled by the gov't. it's so sad, but it's nothing we can fight against because they choose it
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This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people.
I think is the right thing to do.
What do you think trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065


How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me.
 Quoting: DeadBeacon




Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov):

- GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades.
- Industrial production rose 107%.
- Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales.
- It generated more than 5 million jobs.
- Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%.
- From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos.
- From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%.
- The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children.
- International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million.
- Tax revenue grew by almost 700%.
- In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%.
- In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%.
- In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt.
- In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina.
- In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%.
- From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system.
- The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America.
- From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065



I'll say it again...the markets will determine the fate of of government intervention, not government intervening in the market.

Argentina freezes prices to break inflation spiral



[link to www.myfoxny.com]

.....Polls show Argentines worry most about inflation, which private economists estimate could reach 30 percent this year.......





It's comin'.
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you're trusting gov't estimates from a gov't media? mmkay... just checkin
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lol

that means more people will have to be fired

brilliant!
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Not really...it just means costs across the board will go up and it will be like having $7 a hour again.
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AUSTRALIA MINIMUM WAGE.

For junior employees, the minimum rates are:

Under 16 years of age $5.87
At 16 years of age $7.55
At 17 years of age $9.22
At 18 years of age $10.90
At 19 years of age $13.17
At 20 years of age $15.59.

For apprentices, the rates are:

Year 1 of apprenticeship $10.22
Year 2 of apprenticeship $12.08
Year 3 of apprenticeship $14.87
Year 4 of apprenticeship $17.65.





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